Gerard Oosterman@GOosterman
Here is the link;
International Court of Justice at The Hague: bring the US pro-gun senators to justice http://www.change.org/petitions/international-court-of-justice-at-the-hague-bring-the-us-pro-gun-senators-to-justice?share_id=nfQLAsnmTL&utm_campaign=twitter_link&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter … via @change
Big M said:
Unfortunately, every rank and file American is very happy to have guns in every household. They need to learn that it’s not just the bad guys, rednecks, rappers, and gangstas who need to be disarmed but EVERYBODY!
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astyages said:
Exactly right Big M… but you know what I realised after my recent survey of ‘conspiracy theories’? The reason Yanks insist on the ‘right to bear arms’ is not so much to protect themselves from the possibility of foreign invasion (though, home invasion, perhaps is a partial motivation) but rather it is so they have the means to defend themselves in case their own government goes renegade (something which has arguably already happened… more than once!) and turns on its own people (which has also already been known to happen… eg. ‘Waco’…)
They evidently see having the highest murder rate in the world, as well as the highest gun-accident rate (more people are killed accidentally by them than those who are murdered with guns) as ‘worth it’, in order to be safe from the perceived potential threat of ultimate totalitiariansim and/or extermination by their own government; and frankly, I think I can understand that now…
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Big M said:
When i was in the States. earlier this year, we (two Australians) had a conversation with the American bus driver, and two other passengers, a Kiwi and his Scottish wife. He wanted to know how many, and what types of guns we used in our respective countries. None was the reply, all round. Only the police and farmers have guns. He couldn’t believe that we all felt safe without guns.
The Scot did point out that there had been a failed terrorist attack at Glasgow airport. the rowdy Scots had taken them down with their bare fists!
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astyages said:
Dontcha just luv the scots, Big M? Good mates to have in any brawl, I can tell you!
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Venise Alstergren said:
Googlehoover: Good cartoon, thanks. Perhaps America’s desire to rush into wars is indicative of the people’s ‘right to bear arms?’
Why doesn’t the simple act of overturning the relevant part of the Constitution occur to these people? I know, precedent would be brought up. It’s their country, and I dare say the massacres give the people a vicarious thrill: Or, perhaps they’re savages?
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astyages said:
I think the situation could be remedied quite simply by pointing out that the Constitution contained spelling errors, and that what was really intended was, ‘the right to bare arms’!
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algernon1 said:
Or perhaps alms. Asty.
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astyages said:
A lovely alternative Algae! One of the guys on the Blues Guitar Unleashed website suggested that it was in fact the ‘right to bear-arms’ (I think he was a bodybuilder!) but I like the ‘right to bear alms’…
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Venise Alstergren said:
Where is the petition?
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gerard oosterman said:
http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/international-court-of-justice-at-the-hague-bring-the-us-pro-gun-senators-to-justice?utm_source=guides&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created
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gerard oosterman said:
You need to click the link.http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/international-court-of-justice-at-the-hague-bring-the-us-pro-gun-senators-to-justice?utm_source=guides&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created
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Venise Alstergren said:
Thanks Gerard
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gerard oosterman said:
Thank you Venise.
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Venise Alstergren said:
I’ve seen some of the comments in Huff Post, Slate and the Washington Post. The slack-jawed denizens of the rust-bucket states are furiously against all forms of gun control. Naturally, the greatest excuse is the right to bear arms, as written in the constitution-the same people would be the ones who think the Bible and the Koran should be valid 1,500-2000 years after they were written.
OK, tighter gun controls may not be the complete answer to unlimited shooting sprees, but, making it difficult for the egregious “seize the moment” attitude of so many people which is so prevalent in the USA.
If the constitution made it mandatory-at birth- to expose one’s children to Yellow Fever, everyone would blindly accept this, wouldn’t they? HA!
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Googlehoover said:
Yes, there’s an unholy nexus between belief and bullets, particularly, as you point out, in those states where both guns and God come before motherhood and apple pie.
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gerard oosterman said:
Thanks for signing the petition. Love the cartoons but hope to get a million to sign the petition anyway. If the Bosnian generals get charged without actually pulling the trigger so should the purveyors of death and massacres promoting gun ownership. The latest murder of twenty children is a crime against humanity as well.
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Googlehoover said:
The gun problem in America looks like madness to anyone who isn’t American. To American gun owners an unarmed populace, which is most of the rest of the developed world, looks like madness; and the two views are mutually exuclsive.
I expect that there will be all manner of hand wringing and hair tearing, there’ll be raised voices and protests in the streets, and after much to-ing and fro-ing in congress they may outlaw some obscure class of assault weapon, as a sop to the gun controllers and a nod and a wink to the NRA and their clients, the gun manufacturers.
While I applaud your petition and will sign up in a minute, the idea that things will change markedly for the better as a result of this latest outrage is, I sadly believe, unlikely.
I offer this cartoon from American artist Ron Cobb.
http://hucandgabetbooks.blogspot.com.au/2010/08/cobb-book-by-ron-cobb.html
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