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Well… I’m hoping this new video I’ve just posted on my YouTube channel (ie. theseustoo’s YouTube channel) will make up for the rather disappointing results of my last attempt to post some music here. At least over at YouTube it still sounds the way it did when I edited it; and if it’s not quite perfect, well, I think it ain’t that bad either! Do let me know what you think of the Burnside Refugees cover of the Grateful Dead’s ‘Casey Jones’; an old favorite of mine from a time-space far, far away…
Hope you had as much fun listening to it as we did playing it, anyway!
Asty
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Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
This session’s gig is running a bit out of control. Can we tone done the F***k in major key, perhaps replace with a C minor on the strings.
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Only used it TWICE Gerard; and it was well deserved in BOTH cases. From now on I intend to ignore the ‘agent provocateur’ anyway as beneath contempt…
But if you’re worried and feel the need for censorship then I suggest you delete the whole article with all its comments… Indeed, now that I think about it, you can consider that a request from me…
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I did not for one moment consider it your fault that it went off key. Was more concerned about a bit of an hic-cup by a foreign l’agent provocateur’. Please consider staying here as many are contributing to your very original musical input. Hung-one put up Sibelius’ Valse Triste which also happens to be one of my favourites.
I just wished Hung one would get a little less ardent about issues and perhaps say kucf, cukf or even ucfk instead.
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Gerard, don’t you understand that Hung posting all that professionally recorded and perfectly produced music, played by professional musicians is NOT done in order to contribute; rather the reverse: it is offered as a contrast to my admittedly rather amateurish recording. Hung’s intention is to show my work up by contrast…
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I don’t understand why it went so off key with Hung One’s tirade against your effort. I am not aware or know about why he seemed angry, but Asty; That’s his problem to solve and doesn’t take away your contribution. It seems, we all have problems and issues to get over with. It’s not easy, this life.
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True Gerard… Life is not easy… and I’ve been patient with Hung for as long as I could. I don’t know why he’s so angry a and hateful towards me either; we were the best of mates until that day he decided to worry all the piglets with his public display of suicidal tendencies… and I made the mistake of caring enough to go and make sure he didn’t actually carry out his threat.
I suspect that his anger emerges from embarrassment at that day…
Perhaps Hung thinks I’ve been spreading rumors about him based on things we discussed that day but I haven’t even discussed these with the piglets… or anyone else either; nor would I! So that’s just Hung’s paranoia… But he turned on me viciously the very next time I heard from him and has been that way ever since.
It actually made me so depressed, that, in combination with Ato’s sudden and almost equally vicious attack, that I had to seek psychotherapy for myself… I told my psychologist about Hung’s strange change of heart and she just said, “Is he still alive?”
I said, “Yes!”
And she just said, “Well then…”
And she made me realize that this is perhaps more important than what Hung thinks of me; and that perhaps, just maybe, one o’ these days, he may actually realize that I’m NOT his enemy!
I’d like it to be as it was before; I thought of Hung almost as a brother… Brothers fall out… but they make up too… in time…
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Thank you Gerard. Also this is not the place to ventilate personal past perceived hurts.
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https://pigsarms.com.au/the-muse/
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https://pigsarms.com.au/the-muse/
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https://pigsarms.com.au/the-muse/
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Here’s the great original
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Boring
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You open with an insult, what do you expect?
Frankly I thought you were still ‘not talking’ to me… and frankly if you’re going to be like this, I’d as soon you didn’t bother!
And you’re only giving ME shit ’cause you feel that way about yourself… it’s a psychological phenomenon known as ‘projection’; frankly, I pity you.
But I don’t need your friendship and I CERTAINLY don’t need your abuse; so why don’t we just go back to the way it was and just ignore each other?
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Now I am sad. Hung, you can protest all you like what your meaning was, but it was low and irrelevant.
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Whatever!
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A choir I conducted did this one! Isn’t that beautiful…
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Yes, but, they were not ordinary cookies back in the ’60s, Hung. 🙂
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Hung, I didn’t even know that there was a word ‘cocaine’ in the song.
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I watched the clip and that is what they all went off over, the song itself, ordinary
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What a thrill to be making a clip. Your excellent voice is drowned out too much by guitar. Want to hear the voice Asty.
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Yes… it’s difficult balancing sound in one’s front room… especially without a ‘sound person’… Perhaps I hear the voice more myself because I know what to expect… and I like the sound of my guitar too!
Thank you for the feedback Calypso; I shall work on it…
You see? Flattery will get you everywhere!
😉
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Your insinuation doesn’t deserve an answer Hung, but I’ll give it one anyway:
Yes, I’ve worked! I’ve had lots of jobs; mostly part-time and casual shit-kicking work for employers who were not the least bit interested in ‘training’ anyone up but who didn’t mind exploiting you as cheap labor to do their dirty work…
I’ve also worked for the STA and as a psychotherapist in a home for abused kids; oh, but you know about the latter don’t you, Hung… Your intended slur was thus a total lie right from the outset! You’re a liar Hung…
Whoever has told you any different, is another liar too!
Now go and get fucked! And leave me alone!
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Asty, I have a good set of speakers attached to my computer, but the music sounds like it is coming out of a ’70s hand-held small radio.
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It’s an electric guitar; a Les Paul, through an amplifier which has its distortion settings to sound like a 70s amp… (The picture above shows me playing an old acoustic guitar I no longer have… perhaps part of what you’re experiencing is ‘cognitive dissonance’ from expecting an acoustic guitar sound?
But I have yet to try it from this link… so let me see… As I was saying, I wanted a certain amount of distortion, but I just hope it hasn’t gone all ‘tinny’… back in a tick…
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You weren’t a trainspotter once perchance asty.
Nice clip.
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Actually no… though I DO have a certain fondness for old steam locomotives; and THIS steam locomotive in particular. Thanks for the comment Algae; glad you enjoyed it!
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Be back my’self in a tick with a link to a train movies site I have heard of on good reccommendation. I can hear a train going past my place as we speak btw.
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I got tons o’ train movies ‘Shoe… TONS of ’em!
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Cool. I wonder where you got them from. A friend I know here is on the lookout because of his studies making his model trains.
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YouTube, ‘Shoe… YouTube!
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You have become an expert trawling YouTube by all accounts, astyages.
I imagine it is a contemporary anthropologist’s dream come true except for the lack of an NBN to make the showing of the vids. effortless. NBN speed is so truly magical. 🙂
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Don’t include me as a piglet in any comments. You may notice I only ever speak for myself and don’t us in comment meant to be appraisal or hell raising, other than in the lightest teasing and fun. It is a Biblical rule in my camp. Myself, I operate one to one.
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I wasn’t speaking for anyone but myself, ‘Shoe… “I think…” etc…
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‘us’ is the operative word and it clearly indicates to more than yourself …
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…so I am glad you are speaking for yourself … 😉
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No, ‘Shoe… ‘I’ being the ‘subject’, ‘think’ being the verb and everything else being the object… since the subject is the operant, it should be obvious the it is ‘I’ who do the thinking… thus ‘I think’ is the operative phrase! ‘Us’ merely refers to the rest of the world that HOO quite evidently thinks he’s above… It was not intended to imply that I was thinking for anyone, ‘Shoe; that’s a misinterpretation…
You may not agree that Hung thinks he’s above us, but I do, nonetheless…
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I do not agree or disagree. It is not an issue I am engaging with.
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That is a beautiful piece of music Hung. I have been listening to a lot of audio last two weeks researching some old audio tapes from University choir days. Triste in memory means sad. Yes. My memory still functions.
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Asty, thank you so much.
I am so sorry myself. I had a listen and the sound is really, not really very good. It is a racket but that is not to say it is not enjoyable. For a little while from the viewpoint of your learning curve how to record and edit it. And now you can upload it to make a Youtube selection as well.
I have been making fair progress with Audacity learning how to use it, mentioning this as we did in email t’other day.
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I think the real performance is so far ahead of the recording asty, that does change the way I hear the recording.
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I enjoyed the trains. Yes Asty needs to work on his recording technique so the sound is more prominent, better than his last effort I couldn’t get it to work.
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Thank you both… Yes I’d say that was fair comment; but I am beginning to feel like I’m just beginning to get the hang of it; its not JUST recording; it’s the editing too… as I’m sure ‘Shoe is discovering!
It’s a bit of a ‘deep end’ to be plunged into as a non-swimmer, but I think I’m beginning to make headway… though I think it’s possible that some of you are mistaking deliberate guitar distortion for ‘poor recording’. (In fact this was true of my last recordings too… the amp I used in those cases was very heavily distorted ’cause the distortion apparently gets worse when the battery runs down; actually, it’s not so much that the distortion gets worse; just that the sound of individual notes from strings gets much quieter, but the distortion doesn’t! (You see… I’m learning!)
Perhaps you’re all far too used to hearing me playing an acoustic…?
Algae, I left SOME of the original train noise in it deliberately; do you think it’s still maybe a tad too loud? Turning it down yet another notch might allow the other sounds to be more prominent…? I may try editing it again next time I go over to the ‘tube…
‘Sfunny! It’s easier to make videos and put music to them and post them to YouTube than it is to do a simple recording and get it up and running on 4-shared… If it weren’t for the fact that all the other guys at BGU use it for file-sharing, I’d probably give it away!
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asty, I’ve had a bit of experience in radio recording and taping live and working with muso blokes editing material day in while we did our day’s work in a workshop. You do have a mixed problem here of balance and the original recording is suffocated by your having a single microphone pointing too directly and close (at a guess) to the baffle board in a room that has no protective insulation so you are getting a fair bit of other variable noise deflecting off stuff. If you set up a bedroom as a recording room maybe rather than a big space like you have been recording in?
I might be entirely wrong. This is a great place to share it and I like it I will learn too (being similarly isolated.)
Regards editing, the limiter on your editing is giving yourself originally areas of (relative) silence when you are not playing so you can choose noise removal profile and I am finding that is working well by zooming in and choosing less than even a second of (relative)silence and running the whole track through noise removal, painstaking tiny noise by noise. I don’t know what is possible with editing however when the level of original miked sound is a bit messy.
I do remember I raised with you that your voice needed to be miked. It’s volume certainly is sufficient in live performance (fantastic voice) but the way your miked will make all the difference for the recording. My pennoworth.
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Thanks for the advice ‘Shoe… the description of how to make a ‘noise profile’ and then do the noise removal thing for the whole recording is particularly useful, I think!
Now I can hardly wait to edit today’s practice session… if it turns out well enough my next musical post will include some new acoustic blues, and maybe a song or two… Leonard Cohen perhaps, or Johnny Mathis, or, just maybe, Tom Waits… I’ll decide when I see what turns out best!
The problem of acoustics in my lounge, which is really the ONLY place I CAN record… is another problem; I suppose I could stand one of my sofas up on end in a corner to make a sound-booth, but that means recording the guitar and vocal separately, and I’m not used to that either (yet!)
It is, as you say, a steep learning curve!
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The trains were fine, it was your dub over the top that was a bit quite. That will improve as you get used to it.
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Nah… if I’d made the trains quieter I think it would have let the music stand out… but I thought a bit of ‘chuffa-chuffa’ would sound cool… I just think I overdid it a little, is all… maybe it can still be edited…
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The trains were fine. It is the dub over the top.
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algy, I actually did work it eventually out, last time, giggling m’self silly remembering the DAYS, it took me alge, honestly, asty’s patience is something else with this project and I eventually got back to him and said, ‘GOT it’ hahahahaha. Nobody more astounded than asty when I surfaced I think. 🙂
The idea of using YouTube is the way to go eh instead of that other site.
What is exciting is it is happening HERE at the PIG’S ARMS. We are first off the block. (I can’t talk to asty at the moment. He is engaged with a group over at the piano working out chords or something. 😉 )
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No… we got it sussed; here I am ‘Shoe… long as you’re quick!
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Sorry, I got talking at the bar. 😉
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A friend here, Peter Hann, who makes model trains had this to say as follows:
‘Check out Telltale video productions or vemontmadevideos on facebook for extremely the best dvd’s. Predominately featuring New England USA but, also midwest, Colorado.
Not just the typical run-by’s of trains but a real top notch production with history & a wealth of great knowlege by people that grew up with there trains.
Absolutely the best in the industry’.
I have quickly looked at the site and I understand it sells excellent quality train videos that the makers virtually hand oversee. I thought originally it was a link to videos such as you can access to use.
Nevertheless it’s information and we all love trains. (Pubs I don’t know. Sundays are the worst sessions sometimes. People all over the place.)
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‘Shoe, I have a certain fondness for old steam locos, but I’m not really what you’d call a ‘train buff’… The only reason I downloaded so many vids of trains is ’cause I had a few ‘train songs’ I wanted to post and thought it would be good ‘background’ material. The ‘historical content’ which you describe, though interesting in itself (and I’ve picked up a bit of locomotive history during my research) is, perhaps unusually for me, not my main interest…
To be honest my interest in trains is entirely aesthetic rather than cerebral; I remember travelling on such trains as a child… and I always enjoyed it! I’ve travelled on the Flying Scotsman more than once and I saw it – and waved to it! – on it’s final run up from London to Edinburgh (or, at least, what WOULD have been its last run, but for it being saved from being turned into razorblades by a private collector; sadly that was a long time ago too and in 2013, it really needs another, very wealthy, private investor to stop it turning to rust…
I think if I were to get really serious about it I should go and get my own footage… but where can one find steam locomotives in motion these days in Oz? I think that’s part of why I want to preserve both some footage and some of the songs there were written about ’em; it’s the desire of the historian in me to preserve historical relics…
What you say about pubs is also true… one of the reasons I stay clear of the real ones! If this one is going to get just as rugged, I may well give it a miss for a while… I’m sure that will make Hung happy; I think it’s what he’s been angling for…
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Well, isn’t that disappointing and I was intent reading what you were saying about trains. I grew up on a trainline. I like trains a lot. I don’t know much about the historicism of trains. What I said above about the website was what my friend said.
Hung wins if you go. That is simple. Goodnight.
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What I said about the website regarding the trains was what my friend said. I am not across the historicism of trains. I grew up on a trainline however. I love trains.
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Didn’t mean to sound churlish, ‘Shoe… I thank your friend for the info, even though I probably won’t have occasion to make much use of it… it’s the thought that counts… And I love trains too, even though I too am ‘not across their historicity’…
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