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Panellists: Several
Loathe as I am to inject myself into a review, I feel compelled to commence this section with an apology. Comments on my first attempt at a review of the ABC’s Q&A TV program force me to face the fact that it was rather amateurish. In brief, it waffled about. I can only beg your indulgence and try to improve this time.
This week several questions were asked on ABC’s Q&A TV program to a number of panellists, some of whom were politicians. Which brings us to that burning political issue at the PA: Whose female politicians are more fuckable, Ours or Theirs? Last week there was unanimous agreement that it is Ours.
Skip the rest, it is a lot of silly waffle.
Lovely People Section
Panellists:
Stella Young: Disability advocate.
Lachlan Harris: ex Labor staffer and media man.
Jackie Kelly: ex Liberal minister.
Malcolm Turnbull: Liberal shadow minister.
Deborah Cheetham: Indigenous Australian opera singer.
Tony Burke: Labor minister.
In the immediate aftermath of this week’s performance of the improv theatre that is the ABC’s Q&A TV program, there had been no single outstanding feature by which I felt inspired to write.
Gratifyingly, both MPs spoke calmly and behaved like grown-ups towards each other. Tony Burke had the difficult job of selling the official reason why the recently announced National Disability Insurance Scheme has to wait seven years, being two to three governments away. Malcolm Turnbull had the difficult job of showcasing his own Party leadership potential whilst supporting 100% the incumbent leader and another potential rival. Verdict on Malcolm: You might say that he backed them to the hilt.
Tony Burke struck a particular chord with me when he said the objective of the disability scheme is effective delivery, not money going out the door. I for one am heartily sick of hearing unfocused demands for more money for this or that area as an end in itself, with neither vision nor concrete objectives attached.
Malcolm Turnbull came across as quite the elder statesman, combining a degree of bipartisanship with measured criticism of the government. He also played to perfection the role of faithful Party member ably discharging his duty to defend an errant leader. The nudge-nudge wink-wink here is that he and we really know Tony Abbott is an oaf. The prize for best actor in a supporting role goes to Tony Jones for repeatedly setting up Turnbull’s faithful defender scenes. Regardless of how this drama pans out it is an interesting sub-plot in the theatre of Australian politics.
Lachlan Harris, in parallel with his real-life job as a political commentator, remained on the periphery of the discussions, making a couple of good points about the political process along the way rather than addressing issues directly, except of course where the process was the issue.
Jackie Kelly has a certain rough diamond appeal. I really related to her heartfelt hope that Penny Wong’s new baby would keep her up at nights, as poetic justice for her disapproving tutting at Jackie’s personal presentation being negatively affected when she had been an embabied MP. As Deborah Cheetham empathised “you have to live it”. I found myself growing increasingly sensitised over time to Jackie’s belligerence though. When at one point she directed it squarely at Tony Burke, he didn’t so much respond to as weather it, successfully defusing the fleeting potential for a verbal stoush. This week it was Jackie’s turn to be the guest with the socially incorrect moment, with her unfortunate ignoring of The Disabled Person’s comment about how disabled people are often ignored, in order to pursue a point Stella Young had just rebutted.
But Stella turned out not to be a Disabled Person after all. Yes she’s disabled, and visibly so, but in the end (and indeed, from the outset) she proved to be an actual person, and an intelligent and thoughtful one. It seemed apparent that it is the government’s prioritisation of the surplus target that is behind the hugely delayed implementation of the expensive Disabled Person Insurance Scheme, rather than the prominently brandished productivity commission report’s estimated time frame. Stella made an excellent point about it actualising the wasted potential of people with disabilities, enabling them to contribute economically as taxpayers and increase the surplus. But in the meantime, just get/stay healthy people.
Deborah Cheetham was introduced as an aboriginal opera singer. I dithered over whether to include a racial/cultural label in my own brief description of her above, but I came down in the affirmative because she did seem to deliberately inject a broadly Aboriginal perspective into some comments. I felt impressed by her personal togetherness. Impeccably groomed, well spoken, and above all, warm, she was the only person to explicitly characterise the disability scheme as a social justice issue, which is an indicator of the extent to which the political debate is currently mired in financial territory.
Ultimately it was the understated impact of the two “non-political” panellists that developed over time into the inspiration to put metaphorical pen to paper. OK, that and the feminist push back above. 🙂

Well Ah’ll gann to’t foot of ower stairs! Ah neeahly missed this rare ahtickle written by Voice, ’cause ah wuz soh bizzy aguin’t point wi’ Vectis Lad… Worra pity it’s ahl aboot a prog on’t telly tharrah divvent watch thoh… Whah divvent thee do a revyou o’t fishin’ progs, Voice? Tha knaas… lahk that wun cahlled, “River Monsters”… A reet canny we proahgramme tharris… ah c’n tell thee!
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Funston me! Deserves to go down in history.
Did you like ’embabied’, atomou? I’m not talented at inventing words like you are and I am quite pleased with that one.
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Oh, yes, I did, indeed, Voice. It did give me a bit of a chuckle when I read it but we were whizzing about in all directions here at the time and I amissed myself from noting its appearance!
It is quite an excellently crafted neologism -of the valid sort.
You have adone welly!
…so let me besmile you!
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and besmother you with tokens and symbols of my adoration:
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
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Well writ anomolou.
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Why, thank you, laddie!
Sometimes I do writ welly!
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It wasn’t the best of Q & A and I must say I am getting very tired of Tony Jones’ interruptions – always at the wrong time and to the wrong person. Tony Burke is the Minister for Sustainable Population, Communities, Environment and Water (for VL’s info). Maxine McKew was the best interviewer when she did Lateline – bring her back I say. You might find this hard to believe, but I never liked Tony Jones right from the start.
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Actually I also had strong reservations about him, too, at the beginning, Vivie. Gradually the reservations have subsided a bit but not enormously. He tends to grab a bone and keep chewing on it even when there’s nothing left on it -if you can understand my detached metaphor.
McKew was the mistress of the interview. She knew what questions to ask, how to ask them, how to get an answer but also -vital this, I reckon, to show the interviewee who did not want to answer for the Hudinni s/he was and then move on to another topic. I miss her terribly.
Jonesey is a smug bit of snoot and he often doesn’t wait for the answer to his question before he lurches on to his next one. Bad stuff!
Oh, wellll!
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Indeed Atomou. Sometimes his questions are so very long and within them he goes too close to actually answering it himself. The person being interviewed has to listen to someone else saying what he/she believes or thinks. Contrast that with Tiki on Late Business – she is very good.
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Our front yard is being terrificized as we speak, by a triffic landscape Italian man! It’s looking more and more heavenly by the minute! Can’t wait. Been at it all week and will probably finish Monday or so. Loverly. I shall take pickies.
I get excited by fresh mulch alone, particularly when it’s fresh and still smells farmy. It gets the fervid fecundity fluids rushing through my fantasies.
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Buggery bugger!
The above should have been posted on the Dot!
Ah, welllllll!
Fecund and prodigious apologies and all that.
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Just a rider before I post this. ..In a second post.
I cannot vouch for the veracity of these figures. However, Funston and Hadron have been vociferous about this problem in The UK & Australia: voraciously consuming our tax. The carbon collection will end up the same way, is what I fear.
So take from this …just a general tenet.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=xOAgT8L_BqQ&feature=player_embedded
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Couldn’t go past 50 second mark,laddie!
Such a fare of bullshit belongs to the breakfast table of the Tea Party!
“Cut the Govn’t! Cut the Govn’t, Cut the Govn’t! Stop the boats! Stop the boats! Stop the boats! No Carbon Tax! No Carbon Tax! No Carbon Tax! Kill the Unions! Kill the Unions! Kill the unions!”
Funston me!
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Don’t be so intolerant 😦
I have to put up with all of the castles-in-the-air, from The ALP, so it cannot do you much harm to sit through some unpalatable facts about what is happening in The USA, The UK and the Australian Continent.
I won’t table them here (I have elsewhere), but public sector wages and superannuation is outstripping private. And it’s crippling.
PUBLIC SECTOR GETS ITS MONEY FROM PRIVATE….It doesn’t grow on trees!
Now we need schools, hospitals, policeman and myriad other things–but we must have a balance. Here endeth the 1st lesson
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I forgot Greece 🙂
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Which particular “public sector” wages are you torking aboot, lad?
Shall we compare them to Twiggy Forrest’s wages? You know, all them guys who take their money and shove it in a tax haven or the bottom of the harbour?
Public servants serve the public, privateers serve their private wallets.
I’m funstin intolerant, o’right! Of “cut the public service” and other one-line barking slogans.
Greece? Spain? Ireland? Italy? Iceland?
It’s a pea-in-the-shell game, laddie! Pea-in-the-shell! And Merkel is doing the shuffling… for the mates of Standard & Poos!
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Where is your evidence that public sector wages are outstripping the private VL. At best they’re on par.
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Hang on hang. I’ve been to Bunnings since my last post on The Dot–about Lolita.
I do have evidence and I’ll post it after dinner. I was assaulted by the evidence when I was in The UK. Every news outlet was running the story.
I did preface my YouTube clip with a comment about the facts…BTW. And of course Australia keeps it a dark secret. However someone posted some figures for Canberra salaries on The Drum: the story about mining boom. Actually above a comment by youse, if’n I recall .
Off for a vegetable curry 🙂
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Here’s a link to The Guardian, a respectable left wing newspaper:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jul/05/public-private-pay-gap-widens
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Actually, I’ve just noticed tha was from Algernon. I thought it was from atomou. It doesn’t make any difference, however I went off to dinner, watched the cooking woman in France talk to Paul Bocose; watched the wine programme about champagne–then composed a reply to atomou, to fit in with my note about popping out to dinner.
Of course you can see that by my reference to a post in a blog.
Anyway, I’ll also say, NOW: “that it’s bleedin obvious.”
Most businesses reliant on tourism are just paying the bank interest, not drawing any wages.
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funny VL that talks about the UK noit here.
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Abbooot, may be an oaf, but he is an intelligent oaf. If there could be such a thing?
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Well, atomou and Vectis Lad, at least two out of 3 of the original culprits recognised yourselves and went straight to the appropriate section. gerard’s probably sulking because I outed him as the curtain police.
I feel chuffed by atomou’s reading of the Lovely Person section as well; this is a hopeful sign. It would seem however that VL is a terminal case.
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Correction. Lord Funston is a hopeless case. But that’s his raison d’etre, isn’t it? I like to think that VL will at least sneak a peek at the lovely person section, if only to read my hilarious remarks about his co-accused as born-to-rule choice as Liberal Party leader.
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OK ok, looking looking.
I thought that it was all about a programme that I don’t watch with people in it that I don’t know, talking about things that I don’t know anything about. 🙂
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So Tony Jones is an Australian TV Host–and he prodded Malcolm to the best of his ability? Jones’s I mean.
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What does Tony Burke do? Just to save me Googling him.
I’ve seen him on the telly I’m sure. However I often tune out if don’t actually havr a portfolio.
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I’ll let you in on a secret, VL. I am actually quite abysmally ignorant of our current crop of politicians. I forget Burke’s portfolio. But if you click the photo and then click the Panellists tab it will put you in the picture.
To work now.
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Alas, Burkey is just another religious right winger who, along with many others, have penetrated the virginal ALP and now the ALP, like all virginity- is lost for all eternity!
Which reminds me, were Jesus’ brothers (and sisters) James, Joses, Juda, and Simon, immaculately conceived, as well? And don’t give me the baloney about step-siblings!
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Whah, divvent fret me bonny lass… Ah’m joost as iggerant as thee abaht’t current crop o’ pollies… Buht that’s ‘cos Ah’m ignorin’ em reet deliberate lahk… Ahm hoahpin’ that if Ah ignore ’em long enoof they maht goah awaey, lahk, tha knaas?
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Well, I too, want to write something sensible–and professional. But I can’t.
I don’t know anything about the perpetrators of this dreadful crime. I recognise Malcolm, of course, and an Australian male Basketball player. I don’t know any of the others.
Once I read, that one some of our parliamentarians are fuckable–and then saw gratification writ large; I got an erection and the keyboard toppled off the pull-out shelf!
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But surely, Funston, pure deductibility would enable you to pick the aborigine opera singer? Or, should that be aboriginal?
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Yes, but I hit my head on the shelf, when I bent down to get the keyboard. I’d only had a cursory look.
All Australians look the same to me anyway.
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Laddie, if one were to go to Latin for an answer, one would say “Abotiginal” for the noun AND the adjective; and I feel, this is becoming quite popular. However, there’s a fairly strong “usage” case also for the use of “aborigine” as a noun and “aboriginal as an adjective.
To wit:
Noun:
“I can see four aborigines coming this way.”
“There are too few aborigines in Oz’s Parliament.”
Adjective:
“I can see four aboriginal men coming this way.”
“This is an aboriginal work of art.”
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Cheers atomole.
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HOWEVER:
I just took a look at the wikipedia and found this little but quite serious comment!
“Aboriginal(s) in this sense, i.e. as a noun, has acquired negative connotations in some sectors of the community, who regard it as insensitive, and even offensive. The more acceptable and correct expression is Aboriginal Australians or Aboriginal people, though even this is sometimes regarded as an expression to be avoided because of its historical associations with colonialism. Indigenous Australians has found increasing acceptance, particularly since the 1980s.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians#cite_note-terminology-flinders-10
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Yes, it’s certainly a label. It also comes with some negativity.
They are locals really. But then so is everyone, born here.
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I’ve changed the brief description in deference to the more acceptable and correct practice, but I’m not going to edit throughout because the conversation wouldn’t make sense. As I said before, I get my descriptions from the program intro.
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atomou, I’ve mentioned your Indigenous Australian comment on Jennifer Mills’ Drum article. So if you see my comment there, I want to clarify that I didn’t feel even the tiniest bit attacked. I was however quietly somewhat bemused.
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THANK YOU VOICE!
Thanks to your “fuckability” remark, the rest of your review became a blur! And thanks to it again, I don’t think I’ll ever watch another Q&A without swirling that question about in the abyss of my… brain, which is not located where anatomy dictates it should be but… elsewhere!
I was, in fact, quite impressed by the timidity of this panel and by Turnbull’s quiet but cuttingly effective diplomacy. He has certainly tossed Jones out of his throne, a throne which I think Tony takes far too seriously. I was superbly joyed, for example, when Turnbull, with disciplined irritation responded to Jones’ petulant interruptions that “this (carbon tax) was a serious matter.” Jones has this frequently undisciplined habit of interrupting his speakers with smart arsey-cum-cutesy comments and during this session he was particularly undisciplined and particularly smart-arsey-cum-cutesy. Annoyingly so. I think he, Jones, also stopped Deborah, I think it was, from asking Burke a question, murmuring words to the effect that he was the chair!
Puleeeeez, Tony, get over yourself, mate!
And, like you, I was most impressed by Stella, though I had sen her many times before on Chanel C31 (community station) and thought her to be an able advocate for those who are burden with a disability.
Jackie Kelly has never and will most probably never gain my respect. She is venomous, not only opinion but also by deed. Cannot stand the woman and certainly cannot stand her husband and her social circle. A pack of serpents looking for an apple tree and an Adam!
Avec tous mes remerciements,
Un porcelet.
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Sometimes I agree with you about TJ, sometimes not. This week not. I do recall one time when Deborah addressed a question to Burke. I missed TJ’s aside to Deborah, but he did let Burke answer. Sometimes his clamp-downs on inter-panellist discussions are infuriating because they are asking the best questions. His prompt of Stella during her answer to the budget question just nudged her back to make her best point of the evening, a fleeting opportunity that could so easily have been one of those “if only I’d thought of it at the time” moments.
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Thanks for that synopsis; I’d rather watch my grass grow.
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Some watch it grow, others grow while they smoke it.
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