The Dump

The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.

 

NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.

give a crap

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The Pig’s Arms exists because eight or nine years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off.  Like a sack of prawn heads  in the sun.  Something had to be done.

Moderation was taking forever.  Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged.   When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !

So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit.  And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.

As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire.  And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.

So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog.  Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity.  Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.

And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments.  Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.

Cheers,

Emm.

13961 thoughts on “The Dump”

  1. vivienne29 said:

    YAY – first time ever for me – got a Guardian Pick (on Conservatives Hate Red Tape)

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  2. algernon1 said:

    new computer. just testing

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    • vivienne29 said:

      What did you get?

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      • algernon1 said:

        A Lenovo ThinkPad P1 mobile workstation. Needed it to run some of my software.

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        • vivienne29 said:

          So I looked it up. Did you get the last of that model. No longer available. There’s a new one. Guess it has plenty of grunt. Are you freelancing from home and out and about.

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          • algernon1 said:

            It was an end financial year buy, still available but a new model. Pimped up with plenty of grunt. Has a 4k touch screen. I think it was 35% off so a significant saving.

            Not freelancing but working part time for a former work colleague who is based in Melbourne. Suits me, good rate, work for 2 to 3 weeks then weeks off. Work from home too.

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  3. vivienne29 said:

    Algy – see bugalugs is at it again. What a drip.

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  4. algernon1 said:


    Says it all

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    • vivienne29 said:

      And they’re up to more tricks and lies. Calling changing the deeming rate for pensioners a boost and a spend and giving them a $1000 a year more. The fact is they are no longer going to steal money the pensioner did not earn and there is no $1000 – some might get a few dollars and some might get lots more.

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  5. algernon1 said:

    • algernon1 said:

      • vivienne29 said:

        Frightening stuff really.

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        • Hi Vivienne… Just checked out your link. It’s really hard, is it not, to imagine other than that the USA elects not its ‘brightest and best’, but its ‘dumbest and worst’ to the position of president. This would not worry me quite so much if Australia didn’t follow everything the USA does so slavishly…

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          • algernon1 said:

            Not sure about the 18th century airports though and their defence.

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          • Hi Algae… I’m responding to my own post because there’s no ‘reply’ button on yours… Yes, the 18th century airports ARE ridiculous. Fortunately those people who are commenting on Trump’s stupidly serious mention of them are being ironic… and some of them are very funny. But Trump himself mentioned them in a way which makes one thinks he imagined them as being actually there for real. That is precisely the sort and degree of stupidity I was talking about… I mean… THIS from a PRESIDENT???!!!

            It would be hilarious if he weren’t the President of the USA and the supposed ‘leader’ (however fictionally!) of the so-called ‘free’ world…

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          • Oops! One error I made though, was that I thought it was Vivienne who posted the link and it turns out it was you… (Looked different, somehow, in my email ‘inbox’…) Anyway, thanks for the link… and the laugh! 😀

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  6. algernon1 said:

    I see Walter is at it day in day out nowadays. I don’t understand his trolling.

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  7. “…But if you are a government elected unexpectedly and with no real agenda, it seems your only real option is to try to define yourself by what your opposition does or doesn’t do.

    You’ve got to hope — perhaps rashly — that these habits of politicking are just a hangover from the election campaign and the Coalition’s internal difficulties before this, and that it will knuckle down to the task of actually running the joint at some point soon…”

    This quote comes from Laura Tingle. Dear oh dear no wonder the MSM are guilty about the recent election.

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    • vivienne29 said:

      Yep – I read that and I also see similar sentiment expressed elsewhere. The ‘Government’ is still doing nothing and can’t get a sentence out with talking about Labor. It’s beyond ridiculous.

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    • algernon1 said:

      One day the MSM need to stop playing with their collective nethers and start holding this clusterfuck of a government to account. These dopes need to realise that Labor is not the government. Scotty the Stupid leads them and they need to take him and his boneheads on.

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  8. vivienne29 said:

    Does Sea Monster trail anyone else around on the Guardian.

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    • algernon1 said:

      He trolls me quite regularly, he’s a fantisist. IThere are other regulars at TGA who he trolls. He’s been doing it for years, I fail to see what he gets out of it.

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    • algernon1 said:

      Just had Walter getting all uperty suggesting he’s a troll at TGA. I his eyes he’s not.

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      • vivienne29 said:

        Why are you sure Walter and Sea Monster are one and the same. I feel as though VoR is Sea Monster.

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        • vivienne29 said:

          Why is it awaiting moderation?

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        • algernon1 said:

          Sea Monster was Sea Mendez and used to offer little here at the Pigs. I call him Walter as in Walter Mitty, hence the fantasist, goes over their head. I think VoR is a different person. They don’t get the hint. Sea Monster is male pops in every week or so when I post, usual nonsense, so I just keep calling them a troll, they seek me out not the other way.

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  9. vivienne29 said:

    Algy got another Guardian Pick. Bloody good comment too – got lots of ticks and more replies. Well done.

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  10. vivienne29 said:

    This is in my area: https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2019-05-23/battle-over-the-future-of-prime-australian-agricultural-land/11140144

    Two more are planned closer to me. One is at the back and the other a bit further away. Some property owners are dead against it and everyone else says nothing. I’m in favour. The one closest to us is on so-called prime ag land which has actually done nothing prime for yonks. I’ve met with the people doing the groundwork four times. They are consulting their bums off. The bigger one at Culcairn is further north and I’m not familiar with the land itself. They are all ideally close to existing power lines. The one near us is next door to the sub-station. In my area 100s of hectares of prime land has gone to small lot subdivision. Farmers like that money. I’ve commented that I’d understand their concerns if it was a coal mine. Luckily for me we don’t actually face the site – I have to walk to back fence to see it. Anyway, the protestors have gone national via the ABC. It’s been in local news a few times.

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  11. vivienne29 said:

    The bastards fell over the line. We’re fucked.

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  12. algernon1 said:

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    Say no more.

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  13. algernon1 said:

    Vale Bob Hawke.

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    • Jesus, did the election kill him too ?

      When I was a kid my Dad used to stand up when Gough or Bob was on the TV. Respect, man.

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      • algernon1 said:

        We saw The Gospel according to Paul, last night. Brilliant show, during the performance Paul takes a call from Blanche where Paul tells her that he’ll have a draft of the Eulogy to her by Monday.

        Art imitating life.

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        • vivienne29 said:

          I missed it. Hubby fresh home from another round of surgery. Been pretty full on. I organised a big dinner party for Bob and he propositioned my best friend. That was a year before he became PM.

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  14. algernon1 said:

    At times the mods seem a little humourless at TGA. This got pinged

    There’s plenty of good people out there who can’t stand the thought of a Scotty the Stupid/Pauline Pantsdown/Clive the Dinosaur/Cory Bernardi Australian Neo Fascists/Fraser Anning government.

    Think carefully Australia before we get lumbered with another term economically of illiterate Robin Hood style, chaos and calamity Liberal National government

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  15. vivienne29 said:

    I was about 64 before I finally got polled. I remember it well – it was a Reachtel one. I’ve now been polled three time during the current campaign. One this morning – interesting as it had a section on Farrer and specifically wanted to know if I favoured the Independent Kevin Mack over Sussan Ley or the other way round. So I think this one might have been specifically a Farrer poll commissioned by the Libs. They’re getting worried.

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    • Great to see them shitting their own bed after years of doing it to us.

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      • vivienne29 said:

        I met Kevin Mack yesterday. I know who he is obviously. He sounds a bit of a lefty – he’s smart. He was filling up at servo next to me – on his way to Griffith. I gave him a thumbs up – he was talking on the phone. After I paid he was still there and I went over and he got out for a chat. It was an exchange of mutual thinking on the media and NDIS.

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      • algernon1 said:

        It’s nice seeing the tories needing two wear brown trousers all the time isn’t it.

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    • algernon1 said:

      Viv, I’d had maybe three in the lead up to the Bennelong Byelection, I answered 8 in two weeks during the by election. We weren’t in the country for 10 days of that election. In the end I was just making it up.

      According to the bookies, Sussan Ley will have more time for her flying after 18 May.

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  16. vivienne29 said:

    15 sleeps to go.

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    • It’s become a real drag. 60% already know how they will vote.

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      • Apparently there has been a record number of pre-poll votes already- which I interpret as people cannot wait to throw these counts down the stairs. I sure enough hope I’m right, but an alternative view is that people hate all politicians and just want this bullshit festival to be over.

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        • I tend to favor the latter opinion, Therese… it’s not as if it really makes that much difference anyway… they’ve all been bought out by the zbanksters. It’s their corporations which really run not just Oz, but the rest of the world these days. I wish I could say different, but ‘Democracy’ has become ‘Demockery’ and all voting does is let the bastards know their scam is still working.

          PS: Have a nice day! 😉

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        • algernon1 said:

          I agree.

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      • algernon1 said:

        Omly 60% HOO

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    • algernon1 said:

      That’s 15 too many for mine.

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  17. vivienne29 said:

    Algy got to call them all ‘vermin’ on the Guardian. I got wiped for calling Angus Taylor a crook.

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    • Evidently ‘vermin’ isn’t seen as particularly insulting, Vivienne… but ‘crook’ is obviously far more insulting, and far too near the truth. Who is Angus Taylor anyway? 😉

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    • algernon1 said:

      Well I was referring to all those shook the hand of that subhuman filth, Fuckwit Anning. Yes I got away with a few things this week, which might have got pinged at other times.

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      • I’m so completely out of touch these days, Algae, as I haven’t read a newspaper or watched television – not even the news! – for several years. So not only do I not know who Angus Young is, but neither do I know who that ‘Fuckwit Anning’ is… however, if Vivienne says Young is a crook, and if you say Anning is a ‘fuckwit’, then I’m quite prepared to accept Vivienne’s word and yours for it! 🙂

        As for your ‘getting away’ with a few things… perhaps it depends who is on duty as a moderator at the Guardian at the time… but I wish you both the very best of luck.

        Needless to say, I haven’t bothered commenting on any newspapers – no, not even on the ‘Drum’ – for several years either. But don’t think I’ve given up! Nowadays I reserve my comments for videos on YouTube, where I spend most of my days…

        Nice to see you both again! (And you too, Therese!) 😀

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        • vivienne29 said:

          Angus Taylor is the Liberal Minister for Energy. He’s been part of a scam to get $80 Million dollars for a water buy back which didn’t exist and the money went to the Cayman Islands.

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        • algernon1 said:

          Anning is an accidental Queensland Senator, elevated after a One Nation senator fell foul of Section 44 of the constitution. Anning quit that party and sits as an independent. Anning is Alt Right, a nazi, in his maiden speech he quoted Hitler. He surrounds himself with Nationalist, many of them violent. He has a particular hatred for Muslims and a distaste for Asians. Yesterday he “launched” his senate team at Cronulla, in exactly the same place as the Cronulla race riots took place in 2005. One of his goon squad, chose to intimidate a female journalist there to cover the event for simply asking a question, he chose to allegedly harassed her as she walked away and allegedly assaulted a cameraman. The person was arrested. This happens regularly at “events” he attends. After 30 June he will no longer be a Senator.

          During his maiden speech the coalition shook his hand and hugged him, Labor and the Greens walked out.

          I was a little surprised that the vermin comment stayed up at the Guardian. At any other time it would have been moderated,

          The Drum as we would have once known it, as a place for comment, no longer exists. The Guardian is similar in fact allows more robust debate than the Drum did.

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          • Thanks for the info, Algae… Anning sounds like a real ‘charmer’! Nothing like violence and attacking minority groups to get your name in the media, eh? With a little luck, maybe we won’t hear much more from him after June 30th… 😉

            Maybe I should check out the Guardian… if I can be bovvered to make the effort.

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    • G’day Hung… long time no see…

      Of course, the ‘Church of St Generic Brand’ had already been done… by the Freemasons, who really don’t care who or what you believe in as long as you recognize a ‘Superior Power’… ie. that you believe in some kind of deity or other.

      The bio-degradable minty-wrappers do sound like a genuine step forward, though…

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    • Hi Asty, good to hear from you. Look I wouldn’t take it too seriously. The Church of St Generic Brand was invented by me over 10 years ago when I was writing the Chronicles of Father O’Way. It was meant to be a church where all could worship their deity of choice but were forbidden to proselytise.

      The Freemasons and Alcoholics Anonymous are groups that aren’t religious yet have a clause in them about recognising a higher power. I think this is the key difference.

      For me it was more of a dig at the strict catholic school I went to and that I had used my limited understanding of science to reach the conclusion that God more than likely doesn’t exist.

      The minty wrapper story was more of a parody on the adage “make mountains out of molehills” however my core theme was to make the wrapper biodegradable. Funny as now you can catch fish with them.

      Anyway hope this finds you in good health.

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      • I don’t think I was taking it too seriously, Hung… and I recognized the dig at the Catholic school system (as I went to a similar ‘House of Pain’ as a child, too.

        But I might add that the Freemasons actually ARE religious in nature, for all that they pretend not to be; after all, they won’t allow atheists to join but insist their members believe in ‘something’! However most of their rituals are downright weird, and, word has it, actually Satanic, although their inner meanings are kept from those who are on the lowest rungs of the Masonic hierarchy, for obvious reasons.

        I strongly suspect that the reason they insist on their members being ‘believers’ is because this cannot help but reveal that they are a) gullible and therefore, b) manipulable… very important qualities of great use to the leadership of the Masons… who are among the ‘puppet-masters’ of this poor, benighted planet. I also suspect that this is also true of all religions. (The gullibility, thing, not the ‘Satanism’ thing!)

        I agree with your philosophical conclusion that, in all probability, god doesn’t exist (or if s/he/it does, then it’s pretty bloody obvious that s/he/it just doesn’t care…)

        I’m glad to hear that minty wrappers are now bio-degradable… and about time too! It’s a small step forward, I suppose, if similar product manufacturers will follow this example, but it’s news to me that one can now catch fish with them. It would make a wonderful experiment for me one day when I take the kayak out. Do you have any information on which species they are most likely to attract? Or the best way to ‘present’ them on a hook?

        Yes, all things considered, I’m more or less fit (thanks to my having discovered kayak fishing! It’s the only exercise I’ve discovered which doesn’t require two good legs!) and my latest visit to the quack has revealed that I’m in remarkably good health for my age and my mostly sedentary mode of existence… I hope you’re well too. 🙂

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