The Dump

The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.

NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.

give a crap

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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off.  Like a sack of prawn heads  in the sun.  Something had to be done.

Moderation was taking forever.  Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged.   When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !

So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit.  And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.

As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire.  And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.

So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog.  Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity.  Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.

And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments.  Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.

Cheers,

Emm.

15242 thoughts on “The Dump”

  1. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Just revisited the Drum and true to past form there are 4 new articles there – after 4 pm on a Friday. Ridiculous !!!

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  2. Here’s some more stupidity from the dog walker.

    Most of the polls in here are completely, off the wall.

    They are a source of amusement and entirely predictable, since 90% of the ‘Drum Community’ are Labor/Green supporters.

    There is only about 10 of us who are sensible capitocilists.

    That’s 10 writers out of hundreds.

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  3. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Friday seems to be the worst day for me to get through the mods on the Drum. I’m talking about the Cassidy bit.

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    • Mark's avatar Hung One On said:

      I struggle to get on now Viv unless it is early morning. After that I give up. Don’t know what made Cassidy think Abbott’s statesmanship was exemplary. Maybe he got on the grog while writing the article.

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    • There are some idiot comments there aren’t they. some clot thinks there are only 3 or 4 LNP posters there. I made a list numbering more than that but it didn’t get up. The there was another abuse SO pure ad hominem that didn’t get up also.

      The Cassidy post might be tongue in cheek, I don’t know.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        That clot was Luke and my reply got up ! But their abuse gets worse – some shockers on Mathewson’s piece directed at Lambie. I can’t understand the mods letting them through, especially the one calling her trailer trash.
        Anyone following the IA on whether Abbott renounced his British citizenship. Pretty clear he hasn’t, is dual and is disqualified from being in parliament.

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  4. Plenty of verbal diarrhoea in response to Wayne Swan’s article. Good on you, Algy, for getting a few comments up. Sorry to anyone else I missed!

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  5. Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

    I’m just popping in with some important news. Jonathon Green is on 702 right now. He’s just declared comments sections are a community service for people with mental problems.

    I told you! We’re weird.

    I’m popping out again now…

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  6. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Headline in today’s Australian: AUSTRALIANS must lower their demands for generous government payments, the Parliamentary Budget Office has warned.
    I reckon it should read AUSTRALIAN BUSINESSES. On the other hand I haven’t been hearing any demands from Australians for generous government payments, just reasonable ones to continue and not be reduced.

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      So that’s directed at Adolf I’d suspect. Maybe they could look at where all the generous handouts started. That would require criticising the neocons then wouldn’t it. I did particularly like Moirs cartoon in the SMH today with the air headed windbag joe trying to heard cats. In fact have a look at the last 10.

      http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20090907-fdxk.html

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        Just so you know – I don’t buy the Aust – can just read the headlines on line. That is more than enough. But when it is a really shit piece about Labor they allow access to the whole article. Amazing. See Malcolm Fraser has a say on Team Australia – he doesn’t like it.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          I gave up on the arse wipe a few years back. Every weekend it went further to the right. I see its loosing money hand over fist.

          Good to see Malcolm calling Abbott the Billy McMahon he is.

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  7. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    So pleased to get this comment up in Quentin Dempster’s blog at the Drum today. Especially the last paragraph

    How ironic it is after the historical election of 2011. The Liberals should have been looking at probably three terms in government in NSW, they now could be looking at the real prospect of a minority government from next March.

    It will be a train wreck for them on the Central Coast, Newcastle and parts of the Hunter where they look like losing at least 10 seats. This cancer will spread to other seats.

    It just goes to show that the Liberals in NSW appear to be liars, dishonest and corrupt.

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    • Good work, Algy, I submitted a reply, along the lines of our previous conversation at the PA, but it didn’t get up.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      I didn’t get to it. I’ll have a look. Good one Algy.

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      I was also happy to get out that whilst the neocons at the drum were trying to pin a sexual assault on Shorten that Abbott was actually charged with sexual assault which was later dropped. Of course he had a goon squad who were prepared to purger themselves for him. There were assault charges where that happened too. True to their form they don’t want to here that, dog walkers a bit like that too. They get furious when you point out the facts.

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  8. This made me laugh:

    Waterloo Sunset 2016:

    18 Aug 2014 3:44:06pm

    Bishop: Just brilliant.

    She’s leadership material and must be the envy of all The drab Labor politicians, both for her aplomb (as I wrote 6 moths ago), her intellect, demeanour, unflustered appearance, poise and her articulate enunciation.

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  9. …the wind blows….I thought it would never get up. 😉

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  10. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    In comments on news of Abbott on Scotland: This is what gbe has to say.

    2:26 PM on 17/08/2014

    MMMM. Tony will never be reported in a positive light on the ABC and that will never change that’s for sure they hang on every word hoping for a slip.

    I tend to believe very little that comes out of the ABC now days with regard to the federal government the Australian is far more balanced.

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  11. I’m a peace loving monster 😉

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  12. The very word ‘metadata’ seems to strike fear just on its own , even without the brandishing of swords or lolling heads. Then of course the other alarming expression ‘data retention’. . It has a ring of a space-calamity about it. We are now all (as a team) quivering.

    How nice it was some years ago now. All we were worried about then was finding a ‘new paradigm’. Things were simple and uncomplicated and the children were getting lollipops in the park and the Wagyu steak was making its entry…

    This is now all past history.

    I do hope Mr Brandis is not trying to regain lost ground through his 18c debacle. It is not easy to be a politician.

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  13. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    First Dog on the Moon yesterday was glorious.

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  14. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    It appears the dud didn’t like my comparison of the behaviour Israel to apartheid South Africa or Nazi Germany. Nor did it seem to like my calling of the Israeli press as a propaganda machine. Or even treating Gaza a s a open air prison since 1967 nor the building of walls on lands that people have owned for centuries. Nor did it seem they liked me saying that the Israelis are treating the Gazans as rats or the wanton slaughter of innocent children and others.

    Perhaps the perceived bigotry of The Daily Toilet Paper who seem to imply that those who abused those Jewish kids coming home from school as Moslem’s when in fact they were drunken Anglos.

    Perhaps they didn’t like the word Nazi.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      I’m leaving the Israel/Gaza thing well alone (as far as the Drum goes). Both sides of it are crazy one way or another. Lebanon gets smashed up for no good reason. It’s all terrible terrible. Hamas are on a mission. Israel can be both reasonable and unreasonable. I sympathise with them both. It all gets worse. I’ve thought over the decades that Australia should have become their new home.

      Apart from that I’m torn between laughing and crying. The Monty Python team are running Australia, or some perverted imitation of them – the Lib/Nats don’t really have a sense of humour. They are, they think, serious. Hockey now promised tax cuts in the future (Australian headline). Think of that cartoon – stop laughing, this is serious – from long ago.

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        Yes that my thoughts vivienne. Though I tend to be less tolerant of those who are hawkish Israelis after travelling there in the 1980’s.

        Monty Python suggests intelligence, which this current bunch of buffoons running the country aren’t. I had a discussion last week with a bloke at work, snoot school education family is well connected North Shore tory. He thought the budget might be seen as bad. Well he copped both barrels. I told him that the budget was cruel and we were staring at a one term government, which I suggested the only way they could survive was to get rid of Abbott. He said he wasn’t prepared to accept they were gone. I pointed out who under the age of 30 would vote for them or perhaps their natural constituency being over 55’s. Pretty hard to win government when those two groups won’t vote for you. Then he blurted something about wasteful spending, when I pointed out that the spending when the GFC hit saved this country from a diabolical situation, I pointed out I’d worked through 3 recessions he of course had never worked through one. He was truly shocked that most people think this government are shit and need to be turfed out..

        On Hockey I’d expect nothing less than idiocy.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Yes yes yes. I meant Monty Python in the sense of their insane comedy moments. (The parrot is dead – but Brandis says no, no and no and then months later says it is dead. Then, look over there – we have a huge terrorism problem and I’m going to solve it with metadata even though I don’t have a clue what that is, so there. We are intelligently and methodically doing really good stuff.) Some of the stuff coming from Brandis, Abets etc is so hysterically far out. And so everyone know how serious they are they all done spectacles now that they are important serious Ministers.

          That bloke at your work – they are all deliberately ignorant aren’t they Algy. It’s a worry. Glad you socked it to him.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Indeed they are vivienne these ignorant tories, He’d never worked outside of government so really had no idea what it meant to have your invoices not paid and when you checked the clients invoices not paid etc. No understanding of money just drying up and the knock on effect.

          Brandis QC did his best ministry of silly walks on the metadata didn’t he. It just shows the stupidity of them announcing the policy and forgetting to tell the bloke who actually knew what he was talking about.

          On another matter Mrs A and I have just had a very nice BBQ Korean lunch. Just thought you’d like to know. 🙂

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          I’m jealous. Fortunately I have just made by now world famous chowder. Otherwise I’d be furious !

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        • Had a similar conversation with a card carrying Lib member a few months back. His response to my suggestion that TA, and co, had lied to get in was that they HAD to lie to get in and fix this economic crisis. What crisis was my reply, it’s all contrived, unlike the GFC that the Labor government navigated with great skill. He just shook his head. Unfortunately we were at a funeral, so I couldn’t let fly, but this is typical Australian Lib thinking, if you can call it thinking!

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          They’ve got an answer for everything and yet know nothing. And it’s like, Labor says the sky is blue. Liberals say oh no its not. Next year, Liberals says the sky is blue. And then they wonder why we think they are liars etc. Same goes for the metadata / national security. It was the Libs who howled about Labor wanting a national ID card some decades ago.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Its amazing Big M they all seem to parrot the same old rhetoric. Its almost chapter and verse stuff. No ability whatsoever to think for themselves. Then when you challenge them its “Well I haven’t exactly been keeping up with all of this”.

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        • Yes, Viv and Algy, they even forget recent history to support their cause. A Liberalite was recently banging on about the ‘damned NSW labor Party selling off electricity’. I pointed out that this was first proposed by Kerry Chikarovski (former NSW Lib leader). the reply, ‘who’s she?’

          I think the Queensland Libs are similarly forgetful about the previous conservative premier who outlawed public demonstrations, and was posthumously found to have accepted millions from the mining industry.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          I note all the Liberals in your neck of the woods are all having a nice chat with ICAC big. The Mayor up there seems a nice chap too.

          Shades of Wollongong perhaps.

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        • He’s trying a different tack, instead of denying the illegal donations, he’s taking the NSW government to court, claiming that the government has no right to put limits on political donations. He’s all about development as the answer to any city’s woes.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          I assume he’s the one behind the light rail with the closure of the line to Newcastle station and the development of the land there Big, Come in as the great white knight so to speak.

          Seems to be the way with Mayors scratch the surface and its pretty unpleasant underneath.

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        • I’d be happy if they closed the rail between Broadmeadow (the major interchange) and Newcastle, as there are only about 2200 trips per day between the two, and there are 100s of buses a day on a parallel route. As you say, developers see this as an opportunity to grab some land. McCloy has already tried to have the height ceiling increased from three to seven stories in anticipation!

          Most sensible folk see the rail closure as an opportunity for trams, bike and walking tracks, and cafes, but the McCloys of this world see this as ‘hippy talk’!

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Its a worry when it happens Big, In Macquarie Park (just a fancy name for the industrial area of North Ryde). There was a 3 storey limit which was raised to 10. Now there’s a new strategy where the tallest will be 37 storeys with many 20 storeys around. A new urban hub were everyone will use public transport. Well that’s if you can get onto it with Gladys toy train dumping all those new passengers from the north west.

          Whatever happens there in Newcastle needs to work for the people of Newcastle. They have to make it work. I’ve only been to that area once a few years back when dropping Junior off to come back to work when we were holidaying at Anna Bay. What struck me about that area was the urban decay, block after block of closed shops. However if the rail line was up for grabs well that’s different

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Ha, railway lines – luxury ! Developers and real estate agents should be banned from running for local government – full bloody stop. Here we now have some local wankers who built in a rural residential area way out from Albury complaining about an NBN tower ruining their views and their health and property values. I’m sure they all voted Liberal so I don’t give a shit.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Sad stuff isn’t it Big. sometime in the future our local member will have some serious questions to answer regarding shonky land deals.

          Tories haven’t held states seats in Newcastle in the past have they?

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        • No, the safest state Labor seat in NSW. In April Owen denied receiving any illegal political donations, today he shat all over McCloy (the mayor). Only a few weeks ago Owen announced he won’t contest his seat at the next election…wonder why?

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Will the government come in a sack the council and appoint administrators, like they should in Ryde. No of course not.

          They’re like rats off a sinking ship.

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  15. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    Well a Happy birthday Gerard, so pleased to see you back. And nice to see you again too Helvi.

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  16. The ageing Greengrocer.

    It seems unbelievable. I was hoping for a better and benign world. Only yesterday the sun seemed so happy and yellow. Temperatures above average. And the shopkeeper had a spring in his steps while putting out his cases of vine ripened cherry tomatoes outside on the sun-lit pavement. They were on special for $8.90 a kilo. It was going to be one of those days where he felt happy to be alive. It wasn’t like that yesterday when he was soaked in a gloom without reason. Most times the feelings he harboured, good or bad, had no real cause. They just came about irrespective of daily events, past or present. His wife thought her husband was a natural for gloom and doom but also seemed to have an inborn stubbornness whereby his good humour, by and large, overrode his charcoal gloom. He was his father’s son and as a bonus had inherited the Fruit and Vegie emporium on the High-way to Cronulla. Sometimes, especially when he was in a good mood, he joked ‘the Highway-to hell.’

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-31/un-provides-satelite-images-of-gaza-destruction/5638158

    For some reason he found much to be dark about. Almost everywhere he looked. His loving wife often thought he should stop looking so much and concentrate on the cases of fruit and above all; the cherry tomatoes. She cared deeply about his state of mind and often bought a nice colourful scarf to try and put more cheer behind the counter and also to compliment the roseate coloured pink ladies. Anyone who ever had a bite of a pink lady would remember the unforgettable taste and crispiness. She was out to make things look better, lighter, and spread cheer and sweetness. Her cheeks, especially around her eyes, had creases from decades of laughter and seemed ( to the initiated at least) to oppose his potato coloured frowns and rampant worry lines.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-02/tamil-asylum-seekers-sent-to-nauru/5642972

    He did his best but also had to cope with the years passing by. The unloading of boxes of Dutch Creams or Desiree at the Flemington fruit market had taken their toll, as inevitably heavy physical work does. He had developed a stoop and a weary sighing. The latter more due to dark thoughts than ageing which his dear wife was sometimes at pains to point out to him. She cut a blood orange and showed him how lovely nature can be. Here,have one, she offered him like the good Eve she was. He smiled and took her offer.
    All was not lost.

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  17. The ‘Birthday box of useful Presents’.

    It is here again. I had forgotten but face-book reminded me of a looming birthday. Is there no escape? How do they know all those details. Does the IT world now also check up on my underwear swinging in morn’s breeze? Will I get reminders to shower or cut my nails? I had a twitter message from a far away relative in Finland. Can you believe this? The whole world seems to anticipate my own and utterly single future event. There is still time for me to cark it before this 7th of August has even arrived. Such optimism is wonderful. I stand in awe and am so grateful.

    Not only that, but the Goulburn Workers Club posted me, by normal mail, a ‘happy birthday’ including four gifts. I can spend up to $25.- on a meal and get the same value of a second meal gratis. I could sneak out to Goulburn and order two huge meals all by myself or…invite the lovely H to participate and share this feast with…a free middy of beer or…a free glass of house wine, each. It doesn’t stop there. The third gift is a token of $ 5.- to play Keno. I never played Keno but it is never too late. It sounds terrific. The fourth and final gift is a chance to win $ 500.- and simply place the ticket in the drum of ‘happy birthday members’. It just never stops.

    Problem of birthdays for those of advancing years is what to want to receive. I would like a nicely wrapped box with a ribbon (blue) of blissful uninterrupted sleep without having to go up to four times a night to the toilet. That would be nice. Another one would be to be able to drink half a bottle of fine red wine without having to suffer up to a fortnight of racking indigestion with an unforgiving brooding sense of an overriding guilt that can only be relieved by copious amounts of a smooth all absolving large bucket of butter milk.

    Another fine gift would be a large box of instant recall of names and useless memories and events of all those years gone by. Who wrote this book? What was the name of that politician or this actress? What was the time we sat in the park and a bird snatched our sandwich was that before or after we visited Genoa? Do you remember the name of the captain on the Roma that you danced with?

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    • Mark's avatar Hung One On said:

      Gerard, I can see you have a bliss problem, lucky you.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Lovely Gerard is back. Thank goodness! I think the Goulburn Workers Club must miss you terribly. Where has that old codger gone to? Let’s lure him back with can’t resist offers and presents for his birthday. Trouble is you have to go there to get them and also spend money to get them. Devious lot aren’t they. Gerard the trouble with this memory thing is that the longer you live the more you have to remember – as in there is more and more stuff. Have you tried preservative free red wine – it might give you less bother.

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    • Welcome back, old mate, and happy birthday for tomorrow. Try to enjoy it the day. Comfort yourself with the thought that it’s better than the alternative. Lunch at the workers sounds like a grand day out. As I’ve said before, these old clubs are like aging whores, glitz and glamour trying to cover up the decrepit foundation, albeit with a good heart, and the odd freebie for an old regular.

      I can empathise with the memory. I can’t remember new folk’s names, but can rattle off useful stuff like Avagadro’s Number, the Universal Gravitation Constant, or the molecular weight of glucose. All useful stuff!

      Sounds like the wine is exacerbating oesophageal reflux….have you tried Zantac?

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    • It’s a pleasure to have you back, Gerard. Happy birthday. Look here’s my recipe for stomach problems after consuming alcohol or hot & spicy food : ** Natural yoghurt *** Especially just before going to bed. Take a couple of big-spoons of it and you will sleep like a baby. But hey getting up for times a night for the small one is ok. Be happy the kidneys are working 🙂 (I wish Helvi was here, too)

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  18. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Just have to cut and paste this: on Chris Berg’s piece today. The Drunken Sailor must be from another planet !
    Drunken Sailor:

    05 Aug 2014 2:40:54pm

    No Chris – this is a budget that the ALP, and its transparent supporters such as yourself, don’t want.

    Your lot left the budget in a state or parlous disrepair and it needs fixing. Sure we all know the ALP way is to ignore the reality and kick the can down the road, while maintaining its throw-away mantra that it believes in a balanced budget over the course of the economic cycle. But the last time an ALP government actually delivered a surplus was sometime last century, and we all know they never will deliver.

    Objective analysts, and unfortunately there weren’t any from the ABC, believe Hockey’s first budget was both responsible and necessary – a sentiment echoed by the head of Wesfarmers (reported on the ABC this morning but unsurprisingly already removed the ABC’s news website).

    Those holding the budget up are making things worse for the future. We know that people like you know all this to be true. But we accept that your blind adherence and loyalty to a leftist ideology you know has zero economic credibility shackles your ability to present an objective view.

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      Sailor imbibes too much. I’m surprised they don’t realise that Berg is a tory and like many of them becoming disenchanted.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        Yes and of course it also shows up the dumb followers. See an article which doesn’t praise Abbott and immediately decide it is from a Lefty and then pours scorn on it. Hysterical.

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  19. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    From water-closet dog walker wanker:
    04 Aug 2014 10:58:18am
    You have to realise that SO is defending the position, because of personal reliance of public funds, in the past and now as pensions.
    It all comes out of the ordinary person’s wage, either in tax or rates.

    MY RELY on the Drum could not include all the rebuttal needed. So for everyone’s information here, I did do work for a University – it was casual, paid by the hour (not very well paid because the work involved had no uni classification) – I received no benefits. I happen to possess three very special talents for which I was paid on and off over some years. I’m sure the watercloset dog walker will pop in for a read so I hope the piece of poo will lay off with his crap/nasty responses. Wishful thinking I know.

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  20. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Minus 2 again but feels a lot colder. The temp is for Albury. We are 24 kms away and it is usually a bit colder in winter and hotter in summer. The rainfall also differs considerably.

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  21. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    I popped in twice and no one around.

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  22. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    I scored a first up on Drum’s Shallow Foreign policy article by Dal Santo. Got plenty of response and the usual dumbarse arguments. Great fun.

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      Did you catch the dog walkers prawn brained comments today. Hes’ taken not having a clue what he’s talking about to new heights

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  23. Article: Stranded in a war zone we don’t understand

    Keith Lethbridge Snr:
    29 Jul 2014 9:56:25am

    G’day Yank.

    I agree with your statement, but quite possibly for entirely different reasons.

    When did we become a nation that cares so much about the circumstances of our dead? Any premature loss of life is tragic, but do the deceased actually lack dignity and peace until they return to Australia? Or is this more about the living & especially about those who have no connection whatsoever with the deceased?

    I’m not against abortions (for other people’s children) but it does seem strange that, as a nation, we have no qualms about terminating 90,000 individuals (or whatever the figure is) every year and yet, when people have already died, we want to move Heaven & Earth to perform various weird rituals over their remains. Is this the new Australian way?

    Our loved ones can be remembered just as well, & with just as much dignity, grace, justice, peace & reverence with or without their shattered remains.

    Next week, my wife & I will be on a Malaysian aircraft, zooming off to a foreign land. If we don’t survive, please, no outrage, no search for body parts, no demands & no flag waving. At that stage, we won’t be worrying & neither should anyone else.

    Regards,
    Cobber
    ………..

    My reply : “Go forth & stabilise, Cobber.”

    ….wasn’t published !
    What’s wrong with that? 🙂

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