The Dump

The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.

NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.

give a crap

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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off.  Like a sack of prawn heads  in the sun.  Something had to be done.

Moderation was taking forever.  Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged.   When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !

So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit.  And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.

As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire.  And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.

So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog.  Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity.  Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.

And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments.  Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.

Cheers,

Emm.

15242 thoughts on “The Dump”

  1. Ohh how I wish I were inside the liberal party room today. They had a big shock ..
    abc.net.au/news/2015-02-01/abbott-determined-to-stay-on-as-pm/6060490#comments
    Log in have your say here 🙂

    I watched the football final and that was good. During half-time, I watched tennis. Because I knew the libs would lose. Newman is an Oldman now. Poor man. 🙂
    Next is Abbott. Goooo Abbott…

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  2. How on earth does a party with 9 seats in an 89 seat parliament win 36 seats and win government. Looks like two one term governments being kicked out in two months. Ought to wipe the smile off the faces of all those right wing nut jobs. Only caught it after the Asian Cup final and watched the LNP in full filth.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      I kept up with it from 8 pm onwards and went to bed very happy. Now I find that it’s official. Wonderful. Look forward to reading dog walker’s thoughts (joke).

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        I think The Drum will be very quite this week with the right wing nutters crawling under a rock. Dog walker of course will come out with his usual dribble. What if Adolf is rolled this week.

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      • We’ve been watching this all night. Newman was rolled by early evening! Distant cousins (Q’land libs) are already whining about ‘union control’! Can’t re-educate ’em.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          I saw that tory on the broadcast last night saying the same thing. Wayne Swan made her sound stupid. My Liberal mate said that the LNP would lose in Queensland at Christmas, I just couldn’t see how it would happen. He’s closer to the mark than I was. He also said that the LNP had polling suggesting 54-46 LNP, which they said just showed the quality of thei polling.

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        • It is amazing how everything is the unions fault.

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          • Yes, the health care unions probably kept the qland hospitals in one piece over the last few years, but, as one well known pollie used to say, ‘don’t worry about that.’

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      • No Viv, I can’t wait to hear the convoluted explanation how the LNP won, should be very interesting.

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    • The bookies were offering $9, if only I’d put a tenner on it, darn.

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  3. Before it gets moderated out:

    Malcolm:

    30 Jan 2015 2:45:23pm

    “If’n youse go back over the last 7 years, you’ll find that THE ABC only published anti-Liberal journalism.”

    What utter nonsense. Peter Reith was a regular article writer, Chris Berg from the IPA is a regular contributor; Kevin Donnelly is a contributor; Terry Barnes who wrote this article is a Liberal; plus numerous other contributors. Do you actually check what you claim.

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    Big M:

    30 Jan 2015 2:53:13pm

    Evidently, it’s hard to tell left from right, with head wedged firmly in backside.

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    • Malcolm was replying to WS.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        My answer would have been – I wish they bloody had done that.

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        • Yes, I reckon it would be pretty even!

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Clearly still in the naughty corner. Couldn’t put up a reply

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        • I’ll be in the naughty corner, next, but I just get so bloody tired of the standard six or seven right wing replies to everything!

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        • SO’s metaphors were pretty funny.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          I did notice the glass jaw protruding in that debate. Seems he doesn’t get it. It was being precious. Smile will be wiped from its face tomorrow I suspect.

          SO is good value often at The Drum.

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        • I have to admit to being frustrated by WS. Every comment is like groundhog day, nothing, new, all ‘trickle down’ economics, unions bad, business good, unemployed are lazy trash, blah blah blah.

          Actually I posted the head up arse comment assuming the new mod would block it. He blocked the explainer which followed!

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        • I posted a fairly neutral comment on the same thread, didn’t get up. Same with others this week. I share your frustrations about WS. He’s like a cracked record. Then if you criticise him he comes out with this mock disgust.

          He and his right wing mates seem to go on with this right wing bias at The Drum. I tend to think its fairly balanced. Still they wouldn’t be satisfied unless they were all right wing blogs. The shouldn’t complain though Adolf this the fodder that just keeps giving even if they have to defend the indefensible.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Yes they do persist with defending the indefensible but it appears to me that fewer of them are actually doing that – this week in particular.

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        • Yes, Viv, some of the staunchest right wing apologists have just shut up, bu this gives others more space to ramble on.

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  4. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    I got first up on Ben’s cute piece. I am wondering if I have also record there. Two words.

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  5. Unbelievable! Thirteen articles are still open for comments !

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  6. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    I think the quality (I use that word loosely) of responses from the Abbott loving Libs has reached new lows. Getting more bizarre and totally out of whack with reality.

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    • Hardly worth reading the comments, they read like excerpts from Reader for Young Liberals. Some amusing, shambolic, f$%^ed if I can understand what drugs he’s on, comments from WS.

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    • Yes, Vivienne…and since only a handful of our sensible replies to whacky ones are getting through, I changed tactics.

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  7. Hung One On:
    26 Jan 2015 7:07:35pm
    Hey Bushy, get with the rest of the world, the Royals are spongers off the tax payer at best. Sir Prince may patron those organisations but that’s all and when gaffe prone Sir Prince visits Australia us taxpayers pay for them mate, the royals couldn’t pay their own way out of a supermarket. The rest of your rant is just yesterdays rubbish.
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    well said Hung

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    • Thanks mate. I surprised this one got through. I posted a few more however they didn’t appear.

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      • Never mind Hung. We got used to it. I sent only one post yesterday and it didn’t get up. Today, I sent one to Tracey Holme’s blog and waiting for it to appear. It will be interesting who will reply to me. I have a lot of fans 🙂

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      • I’m really sad that the mods are not giving my fans the opportunity to reply to me. I’d like to receive constructive criticism but not the abuse. I don’t like it when I cop abuse. It’s not fun 🙂

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      • Life, high up in the Andes, must be better than Australia. Over there, at least, you have the opportunity to chew coca leaves every day.

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  8. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

  9. What is wrong with the drum? ..comment section keeps disappearing!

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  10. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    First up on the first blog of the day at The Drum. Who hoo

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Well done.
      But, has everyone stopped laughing. Sir Prince Phil. Abbott proves he is totally bonkers.

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      • Well it fits doesn’t it for services to buffoonery and putting ones foot in ones mouth. I’m surprised that Dame Queen Betty didn’t get one as well. What’s he hoping for a knighthood in return. The sort of tory toadying we’ve all come to expect.

        He’s lost the plot.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          True Algy – but really, did he ever have ‘the plot’.

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        • No, I’d say you’re right. As a Liberal friend of mine said today about this, Abbot is increasingly coming over as a very strange leader.

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        • One used to have to donate over 50 grand to the Libs to get a knighthood, wonder how much it is now??

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          There was an old lady (dead now) known to my Liberal mate and I in the 70’s and 80’s thought she was worthy of an honour, goodness know what for. A staunch member of the Liberal party they ended up organising for her to get a British Empire Medal (BEM) just to shut her up. She waltzed around the place saying she was …BEM not realising they were the go away medals. In England apparently you get an OBE for walking across the street.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Put 3 responses up and nothing. Keep up the good work Algy.

          Going to cook a pile of fresh raw school prawns for dinner. Struck it lucky at the fishmonger last week and froze them. First time here – the raw schools prawns that is. Will cook Spanish style – simple, quick and salted and crispy (I hope).

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Big M – they’re freely given by Tony. There are only a few people who would accept them and he’s run out of GGs. Flint is probably gagging for one.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Its a bit all over the place there today vivenne. Disappears then comes back, then nothing getting through, My strike rate is 1 in 2.

          Prawns sound great, careful of the crook ones though. Lamb Kofta’s tonight, would have done them on the BBQ except for the constant drizzle.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Did you see Flints bit of brown nosing (he enjoys that) regarding Philips many things he does for Australia. Pass the bucket

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Yes. Flint is a raving p……..

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        • Algernon, that news link you mentioned before; so far there are 74 comments posted, with the most recent being at 4.30 pm. Looks like “have your say’ is functioning over there but not everywhere else.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          I just noticed all the first post on all the new blogs start at around 4:40. Must have the casual staff on today and not sure where everything is.

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      • Sir Prince Phil ! …for a knighthood ? I think this is bizarre. I’d bet that his wife is having a good laugh.

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    • Good work, Algy. Yes, thought bubbles and three word slogans aren’t ‘taxation reform’.

      I nearly fainted when I read the news this morning. I can’t imagine why a non-Australian would even qualify for an Australian knighthood. As for the other bloke, as SO pointed out, he did his job, retired, went on a couple of boards, etc.

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        Yes I see little point in these knighthoods. Seems you need to be a military person just to get one. Then again I see little point in these honours anyway. Same with “Australian of the Year” all a bit jingoistic to me. Sad this current one lost her son in dreadful circumstances and good for her for speaking out on domestic violence. Much to be admired, but “Australian of the Year”.

        Also saw someone from England’s Antique Roadshow, has become an Australian citizen after visiting the country for 30 years. Seems like a great criteria to gain citizenship, just visit the country a few time over a period. I understand that $5m will buy you citizenship.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          I didn’t want to sound ‘off’ but I didn’t think Rosie was a good choice and I didn’t think she should have been nominated to begin with – for a number of reasons.
          Also, nice for Jackie French but she has only must made it into the Senior Cit ranks – 61 years old.
          I’m not sure (in that I really have not decided) if all the Australian Day Awards of all kinds are any longer necessary. I don’t believe 26th January is Australia Day either. The day we become a republic is the only one. It got buggered up by Federation being the same day as New Year’s Day.

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        • I agree, Vivienne, Rosie has been thrust into the lime light by circumstances, and probably wouldn’t care about DV otherwise. Jackie French is, basically, a moron. Much of the list is similar. I know someone who has the OA, by nominating herself for dumbing down nursing, yet, a local woman who raised tens of thousands for charity, for whom we tried to get the Medal of Australia didn’t get a gong!

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      I see Adolf has to defend his latest foot in mouth, then has a dig at social media. Is that really that wise?

      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-26/abbott-defends-knighthood-for-prince-philip/6046380

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      You’ve just done it again.

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  11. …and of course apow -aka mjlc- is 100% right. I enjoy reading his posts. Also, where is docmercury? He appeared a couple of times some time ago…

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  12. Did you also notice, how all the well-known pseudonyms suddenly came out of the woodwork at the farewell blog?

    What does that tell you?
    🙂

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Just had a good read of the comments. Yes, and they remain total bastards to the end.

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      • Especially the one who was pretending to be Yvette Blackwood in replying to h.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          I could hardly believe that she let is through !

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        • I was too late to respond to this person. Then I checked the time-stamp of his/her comment and it was too close to the time-stamp of the ABC (moderator)’s two replies right at the bottom of the comments section, and another one to SusieQ somewhere in the middle. Interesting !!!

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          I suspect that is someone well known to us all and not yvette. The mods comments at the end are interesting given I got one of five up there.

          ABC (Moderator):
          23 Jan 2015 7:48:43pm
          Thank you posters for an unexpectedly kind farewell! I have not moderated all day today but I have appreciated the wide-ranging feedback.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Furthermore the only one that mentioned the pub by name was commented under Yvette Blackwood. Its one of two people know to us and I’ll guess its the most antagonistic one.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          SM I reckon.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          I was thinking others, but on this occasion I think you’re right. I guess they could come here and refute this if they want.

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  13. A swing of up to 13 per cent in key Liberal National Party-held seats in Queensland has been revealed in the latest Newspoll survey… bye-bye Mr Newman.

    It’s probably safe to say, at this stage, goodbye to Mr Abbott, too, and the funny thing is it’s going to be his own people who will bid farewell to him first. After the Q-election, he’ll go.

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    • hit the road jack… ♪ ♪ ♫

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      I knew of the early election in Queensland after meeting a friend at Christmas, very well connected in the LNP. They told me that the LNP had internal polling suggesting 54-46 LNP to which they replied that’s the “quality” of the LNP polling. They also said that Newman had no chance of holding his seat. Brilliant a lame duck government.

      I still think its a long bow to suggest that the LNP will lose in Qld but I could be wrong. I see that someone is also suing the boy lover. Should be interesting it will be a train wreck whatever happens. A lame duck government will be forced to an early election

      The problem in Queensland is that we’re seeing Joh mark 2 with a generation who’ve never lived or see that.

      Same in NSW I reckon the LNP will lose 17 seats. The connected friend suggests at least 20. Whatever happens will be little more than a correction. I can’t see Baird losing but will loose a significant amount of bark.

      As for Adolf Turd well I can’t see him lasting 2015. Him or his government,

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Only a week to go and we find out the score. Should be an exciting night.

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        Yes we wont see it live on the tele, only on line. Could this be the first of a cascade of tory rubbish being hosed out

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Pity – being on the Border we get NSW and Vic election result live during the evening. If it is on ABC Queensland I can use my satellite to tune in via the tele. But I do tend to have computer set on the electoral commission to get up dates – never as good as the TV though.

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        • I just checked the TV program; ABC 24 News will broadcast Live from Brisbane: hosts Matt Wordsworth, Jessica van Vonderen and ABC Election Analyst, Antony Green. Joining them will be former Federal Treasurer (ALP) Wayne Swan and Queensland Treasurer (LNP), Tim Nicholls.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Thanks for that. Will be good as switching from satellite to TV is not a quick thing to do.

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  14. Who is Heviltwin? Not our H. right?

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  15. What a coward !
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    Sea Monster:
    23 Jan 2015 2:49:14pm

    There’s a place where a Labor aligned clique gets together to talk about this place. The commentor most commonly posts as hph has been plugging it here these last few weeks.

    From their comments there it seems the majority of their comments here are spiked. And they blame LNP/political right aligned moderators. Fascinating, to me, is that they also alternately: complain about the abuse they cop/crow about the abuse they manage to get up.

    I think all you party cheerleaders need to take a look at your selves. I operate a heuristic: accusations of bias are admissions of bias.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Lies. Exaggerations. Pathetic.

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      Ah Silly Monster, that would be the one who thinks they work all hours of the day and night yet seems to spend an extraordinary amount of time blogging. It’s the talk of a fool. I suspect most people who blog there get moderated, well except for Alfie, but then I think they feel sorry for him. I don’t think its bias just whose on the moderating on the day.I could have pointed out that I was trolled there on two occasions on that blog and that they failed to follow their own rules. for many weeks, however, a thank you and all the best seemed more appropriate.

      I’ve thought silly monster is a bit of a bowel talker most the time. They are entitled to their opinion. The above comments from them was inappropriate at that forum.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      I suspect SM has two minds – one sometimes makes good sense and the other often is very loopy. Must be difficult.
      HPH – have you been plugging the Pub – I don’t read every article and don’t read all comments so miss stuff frequently.

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        I don’t recall HPH ever doing that but I could be wrong. The only one I’ve seen in recent times walks dogs.

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      • I think he means this Pub, Vivienne. I don’t want to converse with him here: – out of respect to Emm and other patrons and for the tranquillity of the pub- What I don’t like is his insistence on bullying H at the Drum.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          He does, clearly. Accuses you of pitching this pub to readers at the Drum.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          They don’t come here any more hph. No voice or dog walker to agree with without thinking. As for h those who do bully her just follow one another. Perhaps its their low self esteem.

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  16. Guess who posted this after 3 priors not accepted
    Ben the Lawyer:

    23 Jan 2015 9:32:16am

    Oh Yvette you will be so missed

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  17. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Note the farewell article from Yvette the moderator. Am I the salty snack?

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  18. Aha ! .. now I get it;)

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  19. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Seems that the mods now take most of the afternoon off and someone clocks back on after 5 pm. Strange.

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    • Yes, why publish an article, then not print any comments for hours?

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        Amazing, on Triggs – a moderator who must like me:
        Stuffed Olive:
        21 Jan 2015 3:51:42pm
        I have no idea OUB but your effort is just a distraction. I’m defending Commissioner Triggs and the HR Commission as it is under attack. Wonderful disabilities Commissioner gone, that Liberal Tim Wilson (who openly does not believe in the organisation) being given a new gig. As for your opinion of me, here’s mine on you – you’re up yourself.

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  20. Who is this Ben Nallay? Is he a new or an old hand? Some of his stuff is funny.

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  21. Gerard, keep an eye on Anthony Bergin’s page tomorrow (or this) morning. Somebody is going to be very *predictable* ..
    🙂

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  22. gbe is so enlightened. This was his comment on the racsim article:

    20 Jan 2015 9:25:15am

    Goodness me do we really need to keep going on about this stuff same old complaints of racism I have heard a thousand times before for the same pointless remarks that make people angry but changes nothing.

    I was refused entry to front bar in Broome because I was in High Visibility clothing is that not discrimination against a worker or just a hotel owner enforcing a blanket policy to reduce problems from a small but troublesome element.’

    My response: ‘Big M:

    20 Jan 2015 10:47:16am

    gbe, one can remove high vis clothing, one cannot remove one’s skin. See the difference??’

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  23. Big M:
    “Perhaps the commercial TV networks could go one step further, and have them appear on my kitchen rules, or dancing with the stars, or something equally as banal.”

    Haha This one made me chuckle

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  24. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Are the party guys on the Home page still partying?

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  25. Algernon, your cricket theme on the Medicare post got a good response 🙂

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    • Except I said interfering with the field instead of obstructing. I posted a dozen there yesterday but they were the only two that got up. I missed the “Or is that interfering with a duck?” from David Ferstat. Pure gold on that theme. ;p

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