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Okay fellow piglets, here is the article I’ve been tantalizing you with and for which you have all waited so long! But you’d better fasten your seat-belts and hang on to your tidfer’s ladies and gents, ’cause we’re in for a bumpy ride!
The first problem in any survey of conspiracy theories is their overwhelming overabundance; where does one start… We could start with what happened to all the German scientists after the end of WWII, or we could begin by looking at a more modern phenomenon: UFOs.
Now as a sci-fi fan since childhood, I’ve always kinda wanted to believe in UFOs, but, at least, prior to this survey, the rationalist in me would have put its probability somewhere between virtually absolutely nil and absolutely nil… And yet…
Once we were told there were no such thing as UFOs which led some to speculate that perhaps the whole UFO phenomenon wasn’t perhaps a smokescreen for the USAAF’s own experimental aircraft. ‘Cover-up!’ was the catch-cry when rumors of Roswell reverberated around to globe to the accompaniment of some somewhat less than convincing alien interviews and autopsies.
On the other hand, in the USA, there is currently an ongoing UNCOVER-UP operation surrounding UFO’S, aliens of all the interplanetary and/or interdimensional kinds and all kinds of apparently well-qualified, sensible and serious people, people who have themselves actually worked at area 51, have come forward and admitted to having reverse-engineered alien spacecraft; we are informed by such sources that 95% of UFO phenomena are ‘our own birds’… the other 5%, we are informed, belong to ‘aliens’. Now, to the objection that interplanetary space-travel is, at least to the best of our knowledge, impossible because of the immense time/spaces involved, the ufologists have come up with the notion that ‘aliens’ are indeed, not interplanetary, but interdimensional, beings, who, as any sci-fi fan from the fifties can readily tell you, come back to save their future world from some kind of evolutionary dead-end… Now THIS is where Planet X and the lizardmen come in… Those I refer to as ‘Lizardmen from the Planet X’ (What a title for a sci-fi movie! I’m sure I’ve seen something somewhat similar at some stage in my sci-fi subscribing career…) are called by others ‘Annunaki’; and there is another race known as ‘Nephilim’… both of which – surprise, surprise! – have been prophesied in the bible… (where else?)
Now, there’s a war in ‘heaven’ (ie. Space) between these two that has been going on for at least 2,000 years… Oh, and it was are alien ‘gods’, the Annunaki and Nephilim, who built all the pyramids, don’tcha know… and taught our bronze-age ancestors all about ancient technology… (’cause they were too stupid to think of anything like experimenting or observation, or any of that scientific stuff all on their lonesome, eh?)
Anyway; the upshot of it is that it’s all coming to a head and we’re to meet our new alien overlords on 21st December 2012… which is nice, isn’t it? They’ll arrive just in time for Christmas! To save us all from a life of meaningless overindulgence… S’pose they’ll probably begin by banning it! I, for one, won’t miss it in the slightest!
Ah! But then there’s the OTHER alien prophecy; the one that says the Annunaki are only pretending to be our mates and they’re really out to ‘harvest’ us to take all back to their planet to farm us for lizard-feed; though it’s anyone’s guess as to why they’ve waited 2,000 years or more. And of course, if the Annunaki were the satanic, snakelike aliens – the ‘fallen ones’ in the bible’ – the Nephilim are the ‘good guys’; god’s angels (who came to earth but weren’t ‘fallen’), who’re supposedly gonna bring back Jesus to save us all from the Annunaki and… well… who-knows what really? Becoming lizard-feed, I suppose…
Once upon a time the FAA told the American public it was not interested in hearing any more UFO reports; the government was very much in denial about the fact that there was a genuine phenomenon to be investigated. It ostracized and lampooned anyone who attempted to report UFOs until people were generally put off reporting them for the sake of their reputations as sane people… Now there are sane and authoritative people from the army, air-force and even the police force, admitting to having seen and, in some cases, actually worked with real aliens…
It’s intriguing to note that there is also another conspiracy theory out there that says the UFO phenomenon is not a real phenomenon at all, but that, in fact, UFOs are holographic projections from all that ‘Star Wars’ hardware the space-shuttle program put into space between the ’70s and the ’90s… the aim of all these holographic lazer-shows being, of course, social control through the only means the American government, apparently, knows: fear… in this instance fear of alien overlords coming to eat us on the one hand, or fear of the angels who may decide NOT to rapture humans out of the ‘tribulations’ after all! Or, perhaps they are here to judge who goes to live with them on their Nephilim homeworld (if, that is, this isn’t just a cover-story and the Nephilim are the real bad guys, ’cause after all, the Annunaki taught us technology etc…) in ‘heaven’; and who stays here to fry in what looks like it’s shaping up to be the hell of an inevitable nuclear conflagration (at least, according to this rather nihilistic prophecy).
Only ONE thing is certain about this: the US Government NOW apparently WANT us to believe in UFOs… Why? Is it at all possible they could be real? I’d love to know what you guys think…
Hang on, I hear you ask me, what has that to do with Nazi scientists after the end of WWII? Good question, and I’m glad you asked… You do realize, of course, that humanity was robbed of the possibility of universal, free, and safe electrical power by Thomas Edison, who, if history is read cynically, may possibly be implicated in the suspicious death of Nikola Tesla, who had plans to give the world unlimited, free energy? Oh? Well… you do now, anyway… Well… Tesla had plans for a whole lot of stuff, including anti-gravity machines which Hitler had built into the world’s first undisputedly real flying saucers…
My own theory is the Annunaki and Nephilim stories come from the neo-Cons and, as I’ve already said, aims at establishing social control through fear; using the gullibility – not to mention, ‘bullyability’ of the American bible-belt… But social control for what? First let’s be clear that it is GLOBAL social control we’re talking about here; and as for what… the bulk of the world’s population is to be kept in controlled ignorance while the neo-Cons destroy the world’s economy as a prelude to denuding the earth of at least 80% of its population… the result of doing the maths on the suggestion by the Georgia Guidestones, that the world’s population be kept under half a billion…
And how is this ‘desirable’ population-level to be achieved? Oh, through wars where there’s another interest to make going to war ‘on the ground’ necessary; otherwise, primarily through manipulated and engineered natural disasters as a result of using HAARP as a weapon; there are those who already believe the Fukushima tsunami was the result of a HAARP attack. The USA also has a whole range of other, formidable, sonic weapons, some designed specifically for crowd control… Oh, and the other major methodology of depopulation is to be starvation, even in the midst of plenty! Two words you should all investigate are these: ‘Codex Alimentarius’… in this heinous document, about nine or ten of the world’s absolute WORST food pollutants, which were regulated against because they were so heinous, are now to be allowed back into our diet… (You already know that thalidomide is back on the market again, don’t you?) And the world’s food is to be genetically engineered so that it will contain no nutritional content whatsoever…
Now, as a disbeliever, I might derive some relief from my straining incredulity when I discovered how many of these conspiracy theories actually come from some pretty fundamentalist christian sources; but that doesn’t mean there’s nothing to worry about… Alex Jones, for instance does an excellent job of scaring the shit out of people (me included!) by secretly filming inside the Bohemian Grove on the night of the Skull’n’Bones Club’s annual ‘Burning of Care’ ritual, which amounts to the sacrifice, in human effigy, of ‘Care’… or, in other words, their consciences!
Check it out for yourselves: http://youtu.be/FpKdSvwYsrE
Regardless of Alex Jones’ own personal belief’s and motivations, (and I DO think he’s doing his thing for the benefit of his country…) this is a serious worry… Supposedly 46 presidents of the USA have belonged to this club… which is a front, of course, for the illuminati, who are all (neo-Cons, I’m sure!) getting themselves as rich as Croesus while their own country’s and the world’s economies crash around their ears. In certain circles, Obama has been likened to Nero!
When most of the ‘rulers of the free world’ are all members of the same secret society(s), I’d say there’s something SERIOUS to worry about… One can no longer even think of the USA and ‘Democracy’ as having anything to do with each other, except insofar as the word is used, together with some remarkably impressive pieces of street-theatre (called ‘elections’) to lead the sheeple by the nose while they are first fleeced and then sent to the slaughter…
Whew! Well… that’s not all there is to it, of course… but I hope it’s enough to start a discussion! If discussion seems brisk and interesting enough perhaps I’ll write a sequel… In the meantime, here’s something for you all to think about:
And in case you think, ‘Oh, that’s just those stupid yanks!’, check this out:
(Disclaimer: I have the excuse of being paranoid; however, I cannot be held responsible if any of this information should happen to upset your reality. Asty)

Here’s a little afterthought that occurred to me after my perusal of the plethora of conspiracy theories available to the curious on YouTube: I’ve finally come to understand why, in spite of the fact that the USA has the highest rate of homicides and that although guns do account for most homicides, more people are killed by guns in accidents than homicides, Americans are so bloody-minded about keeping their second amendment rights to bear arms… something which has been puzzling me ever since I wrote my study on the social reproduction and amplification of violence (Aesthetics of Violence).
I realise now that I have been working on the mistaken assumption that it’s so they can protect themselves against home-invaders, renegade neighbours and the possibility of invasion of their country by alien forces from across their borders. It is now perfectly clear to me that this is not the case; in fact they desperately need to maintain their right to bear arms to protect themselves against their own government, should one decide to go ‘rogue’ on its own people (say, for example, the way the early Hitlerite movement did once Adolf gained the Chancellory!)
Must we Ozzies, I now wonder, now have similar concerns about our own gummint?
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This monological belief system explains the significant correlations between different conspiracy theories in the study. For example, “a belief that a rogue cell of MI6 was responsible for [Princess] Diana’s death was correlated with belief in theories that HIV was created in a laboratory … that the moon landing was a hoax … and that governments are covering up the existence of aliens.” The effect continues even when the conspiracies contradict one another: the more participants believed that Diana faked her own death, the more they believed that she was murdered.
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Now, I don’t believe I’ve actually outlined any particular belief-system; all I’ve really done is to describe some of the conspiracy theories there are out there, and the manner in which some of them may well be correlated.
And I think I should point out that my article was just a tad ‘tongue in cheek’; as an anthropologist I don’t necessarily ‘believe in’ any particular ‘conspiracy theory’; I’m an anthropologist, not an acolyte; yet an independent review of what evidence there is, strongly suggests that the US government (and our own!) has been lying to us all since long before 911 – that’s just when the lies get so outrageous and so blatant many people deny it simply in the shock of ‘that just CAN’T be true!’… We like to think of our leaders as ‘good guys’; but how true is that assumption? Indeed, how true CAN it be in today’s Macchiavellian political world?
Both the idea that a rogue MI6 cell was responsible for the death of Princess Di and the one that Diana faked her own death are new ones to me, but we don’t always get the local UK gossip here Down Under. The first time I heard the notion that the moon landings were a hoax was when I saw the movie Carpicorn I; I’ve treated it as science-fiction ever since; as I have ‘Chariots of the Gods’ and more recent tales about ‘Fallen Ones’ and the Annunaki. But in fact, the reality or otherwise of any paricular conspiracy is not really what interests me. As an anthropologist, what interests me is the way these narratives, however futuristic, have been absorbed into ancient epistemologies which evolved long before any of these modern concepts (ie. ‘aliens’, whether interplanetary or interdimensional) ever existed.
Tell me something though: In your own epistemology, do conspiracies ever exist?
Let me explain what I mean by this, psychiatrists apparently believe there’s no such thing as ‘persecution’; only people with ‘persecution complexes’… Now, it’s easy to see how this could be used to excuse the most egregious behaviour on the part of the ruling classes in their continual effort to maintain ideological and political hegemony… To me it seems all part of a social-scapegoating ritual where victims of oppression (oppression = depression!)
are blamed for their own oppression; thus allowing an inherently abusive society (as is ANY military-industrial complex!) to continue with ‘business as normal’…
Or, in your own epistemology, are there only ‘conspiracy theories’ and ‘conspiracy theorists’ with all the perjorative and prejudice is usually attached to such labels ever since the 1960s… Ever ask yourself ‘Why the change in semantic content of these phrases ever since the ’60s? And why the 60s?’ Couldn’t possibly have anything to do with the manner in which the CIA and others, possibly implicated in the assassination of JFK, dealt with rising criticism of the Warren Report, which labels Lee Harvey Oswald as the ONLY shooter…? A post WWII US government unaware of the uses of propaganda is unthinkable… so when the sheeple start to get a little bit restless ’cause there’s some ‘conspiracy theorist’ (and how easily and quickly this becomes ‘conspiracy nut’!) telling tales about the Jabberwocky!
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Actually that last sentence ended before it should have; it should have continued like this:
A post WWII US government unaware of the uses of propaganda is unthinkable… so when the sheeple start to get a little bit restless ’cause there’s some ‘conspiracy theorist’ (and how easily and quickly this becomes ‘conspiracy nut’!) telling tales about the Jabberwocky you can bet there’s also gonna be lotsa government propaganda about ‘Jabberwocky conspiracy nuts’ and how there’s no such thing as the Jabberwocky… (at least, not until such time as the government itself decides that you should be scared of Jabberwockies! NB: the current and ongoing ‘UFO Uncover-up!)
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Well, Asty, I don’t know anything about conspiracies, I’m very sorry. But I have this lovely video to put here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HTFwTTpy0E
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Now there is no good reason for me to put this here. It’s just that it stayed in my head for absolutely hours and hours today, and I felt the need to share that pleasure with you all.
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(eyes to floor) sorry Asty.
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LOL! Not to worry Lehan… ‘a girl’s gotta do what a girl’s gotta do…’ Or is it just possible that maybe you’ve been possessed by some serpentine spirit who’s leading you into pleasant irrelevancies…?
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No I’ve reflected on it, Asty, while I slept. I feel uncomfortable with conspiracy theories. I do understand “groups of people who are united in their opposition to something”. But I’ve never seen a conspiracy. To have a conspiracy you have to be relatively intelligent and organized. And most conspiracies, I think, are circumstantial. That’s not to say that nothing is happening; a lot is happening. But some of it is irrelevant, some is impulsive malice, only a small amount is planned and collectively known and together all that activity makes for a pattern that simply isn’t correct. That’s what I think anyway.
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I don’t believe I’ve seen one yet.
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I’ve seen a bit.
Still, one has to have standards.
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I’m not so concerned about these UFOs, I’m sure they’re keeping a steady eye on us. It’s these talking whales that intrigue me.
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Seeeeems like anyone can be a C talking whale these days.
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But Life is messy, asty, it gets in the way of fine planning. And so, as they say, there is no finer conspiracy than a movie.
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F.argo. Now that was a great movie. Lots of ice being scraped off car windscreens in that one.
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BLESS them for calling it. Saved us a lot of grief. Imagine if it had been called “Memphis Tennessee”. Or “Nowhere Man”. “Rocky Raccoon”. “Taxman”. Or “I don’t want to spoil your party”.
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Yes Hil that’s right. That’s how they did it.
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So you don’t find it in the least bit ‘odd’ that 46 US presidents ALL belonged to the same boys’ club? (And SUCH a boys’ club! We’re not talking the ‘Boy Scouts’ or even the Rotary Club, here Lehan; we’re talking Satanic rites in the Bohemian Grove; I’m not even a xtian, but this worries me!) Such a figure in and of itself suggests a conspiracy, Lehan, rather than mere coincidence… And look at what it is they’re there to do: to ‘banish Care’; to free themselves from their consciences? That must be very convenient for a warmongering world-leader, don’t you think? And then there’s the committment expressed on the Georgia guidestones to ‘maintain the world’s population at under half-a-billion’… and the Codex Alimentarius… I think all the guff we get about UFOs and lizardmen from the Planet X is a smokescreen for what is really going on; and at the same time, it also provides the conspirators with another very convenient scapegoat: the ‘conspiracy theorist’… so anyone who gets wind of any real conspiracy is likely automatically to be so labelled and immediately rejected; totally disempowered!
Even given that Alex Jones is a fundie-xtian and has his own agenda, this is STILL a big worry even for non-xtians… And there is a helluva lotta freemason’s symbolism all over the place! (And I mean globally, not just in Washington DC) Now, I’d say any private, let alone secret society or club which has a political agenda that the public knows nothing about is a conspiracy by definition… Now think about all the ‘world leaders’ who’ve belonged to the Bohemian Grove and/or the Skull’n’Bones Club. Isn’t it pretty obvious that this can only happen BECAUSE of their club’s political agenda? Or do you think it’s just ‘coincidence’?
And remember this too, Lehan, WWII started out as a conspiracy!
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Well I can’t actually agree, Asty. WWII started as a serious failure of responsibility by all heads of countries, who bear complete responsibility when things get that far. And the fact that so many presidents belong to the same boys club is a clear sign that boys clubs are what they’re signing up for. None of that gives me any evidence of “relatively intelligent and organized”, which is basically my criteria for conspiracy. Here’s another song for you.
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“relatively” being the key word here. Fly, fly, fly, no more petrol, no more fly.
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You know, Lehan, just because you feel uncomfortable with them and just because you haven’t seen any conspiracies, doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I strongly suspect you’re doing a kinda ‘Lord Nelson’ thingie when he said, “I see no ships…”
But conspiracies are like the Apaches in the old movies; it’s when you can’t see ’em you gotta worry!
Now, it’s true that lately I’ve been labelled ‘paranoid’ by certain people who think they’re qualified to make that judgement, but even at the risk of seeming to ‘earn’ the label, I must say that there are some things which are most certainly conspiracies; the most glaring of them from recent years being, of course, 911… What happened to ‘Building 7’? And have you any idea of how much money the guy made, who bought the whole World Trade Centre only a few months before AND insured it for billions of dollars more than he paid for it and so made billions of bucks profit within just a few months…?
And did you know that the fire dept had been training to deal with EXACTLY that precise emergency the very same day? And what about the newsreader, who, half-an-hour ahead of schedule, reads out live over the air a comment that WTC Building 7 HAD JUST FALLEN TOO when it was clearly visible still standing out the window behind her?! And mayor whassisname, Julio Juliani, who admits on camera that “We’re gonna pull Building 7 too…” (And why did he say ‘too’?)
The US government have been lying to us all along; it was no 747 that hit the Pentagon; check out the videos of the size of the hole; couldn’t POSSIBLY have been a 747… By a strange coincidence, 14.5 billion dollars had also disappeared from the Pentagon the day before the attack… And those twin towers certainly didn’t collapse as a result of fire; that’s not physically possible; also they were built to withstand multiple impacts by aircraft! Furthermore, no steel-framed skyscraper has EVER collapsed as a result of fire, even when they’ve burned much more fiercely than the twin towers did… and the fires in Building 7 were really quite small; and when the mayor said they’d decided to ‘pull the building’ do you have any idea of what is involved in this? It takes weeks or maybe even months of preparation for such a demolition job! And why were they delivering truckloads of thermite to the WTC during the previous few months?
Of course, it feels ‘uncomfortable’ to live with the knowledge that the people who run the world are such monsters, but look at Iraq… Madeleine Albright said it was ‘worth it’ to have killed half a million women and kids… yet if you follow the trail you’ll discover that 911 was not only a conspiracy, but also a false-flag operation deliberately designed to get the USA involved in Iraq for the purpose of extracting their oil! And although I would have taken it all with a pinch of salt, when I saw the film of world leaders ‘banishing Care’ and with it their consciences, somehow it all became quite believable; joining the dots… Bohemian Grove… Skull’n’Bones… LBJ and the CIA… Nazi scientists working for NASA… Star Wars… Area 51… and a government who can only rule even its own people by FEAR!
And as the economies of the USA and the world went down the gurgler GW was getting as rich as Croesus from his shares in Haliburton… what do Haliburton do? They make tanks and other weapons; they profit most when the USA is at war; now the neo-Cons control the Government (they’re probably all masons and the higher ranks are most probably ‘Illuminati’, which would probably include the whole ‘Bilderberg Group’ too…). Now GW’s also been seen flashing masonic (and satanic) handsignals… before I saw him at Bohemian Grove, I might have dismissed this; now I can’t!
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Morning Asty! I don’t dismiss the idea of a conspiracy, I just have very high standards where conspiracies are concerned, and I haven’t seen one yet that didn’t strike me dubious. You think it was the CIA, the politicians, and the “establishment”? Tell me, you no doubt saw them all at work in the last election – did you get the impression that they were so gifted?
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Imagine for a moment Asty, that you could see this conspiratorial gang of sieves at work. Like – just to entertain yourself on a fine Saturday morning, imagine that you could see them all in the comments section of The Drum. Now, would that make you feel confident that such a knot could pull off a conspiracy?
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WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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La de da de di
la de da de da
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Hey, I’ve just remembered that bandwidth isn’t so good in Australia, and the videos I’ve posted are probably clogging up the pages. I’ve asked Emm to remove them, but anyway I apologize for that.
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So, Lehan, now just because someone looks like a fool s/he can’t possibly be a conspirator?
I used to think GW was an idiot too until I realized that’s just the part he’s playing in public for whoever pulls his strings! He’s much smarter than he looks (indeed, NOBODY could be THAT dumb!) Certainly he’s smart enough to play dumb; and that’s all that he needed to do as a figurehead for the neo-Cons; and I suspect the same is true of the current batch of political marionettes…
It is a naive person, these days, who imagines that any president has any real executive power; they are all controlled by monied lobbyists; ie. the ‘neo-Cons’… Now, whether or not these actually ARE all freemasons and Illuminati and part of a ‘grand conspiracy’ remains to be seen, but I, for one, would not be so quick to dismiss the importance of Alex Jones’ footage, in spite of his obvious christian fundamentalist bias…
And finally, it should be underlined, that, as Wiki also points out: some ‘conspiracy theories’ DO later turn out to be true!
(Now, where did I put that roll of tinfoil…)
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You ask some difficult questions, Asty. What does a fool look like?
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I suspect that with most fools, it’s more how they act than how they ‘look’, Lehan, so perhaps it was a poor choice of word; let’s say I was referring to how they look while they’re acting the fool: their bumbling demeanour; their less than perceptive behaviour; their lack of facility with simple English (or even American!) pronunciation of words like ‘nucular’… Now GW had all these in spades but he was no fool; he was getting about half a million bucks per year as prez and his company, Halliburton, was getting four and a half billion bucks per year from the Saudis… as they say in the states, “Who’s your daddy?”
In fact, I’ve already decided that, if there is such a thing as reincarnation, in the next life I’m planning to come back as the village idiot!
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So then, you’re saying that George Bush was a conspiracy?
Hmmm. Okay. I give you that one. I could believe that George Bush was a conspiracy.
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I’m Epimetheus
my name means stall.
And I could fly with you now
But I’d rather call.
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Changed me mind.
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Bringing to the world our knowledge of dependency on each other. Yep.
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There is one.
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I guess it’s unravelling now.
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Okay, two. Maybe three. But they might be connected. That would make one. Maybe two.
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Hmmm. But if there’s two there’s likely to be three. But no more than three, I would find it difficult to believe that there were more than three.
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No COME ON, Asty. A person’s got to have standards. One. I can see one.
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That’s a start Lehan; once you’re fully ‘awake’ it’ll be difficult for you to go back to sleep… and yes, there may be two or three conspiracies; and yes again, they may all be related under another conspiracy of possibly staggering dimensions…
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No I’ve reflected on it, Asty, while I slept. I feel uncomfortable with conspiracy theories. I do understand “groups of people who are united in their opposition to something”. But I’ve never seen a conspiracy. To have a conspiracy you have to be relatively intelligent and organized. And most conspiracies, I think, are circumstantial. That’s not to say that nothing is happening; a lot is happening. But some of it is irrelevant, some is impulsive malice, only a small amount is planned and collectively known and together all that activity makes for a pattern that simply isn’t correct. That’s what I think anyway.
There’s only one that I feel confident enough to call a conspiracy.
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I am though seeing an awful lot of tricks I thought were out of date by now. Disappointing.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDvAozWcDak
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I certainly agree with you about the ‘tricks that are out of date’, Lehan… (if we’re talking about the same ‘tricks’…)
Now, which one is the conspiracy that you can see? If you say GWB, then you must state which particular conspiracy: a) the Pentagon rip-off covered up by the 911 attack; b) the profit made on the collapse of the twin towers; or c) the ‘911 as a false flag operation’… or d) the ‘all of the above’ conspiracy… And if Iraq was a conspiracy, what about Afghanistan?
And of course this still leaves unanswered all those questions about HAARP and Area 51… and the question of why there is all that masonic symbolism on the US dollar note, not to mention the layout of the capital, Washington DC…
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I’d also agree that not everything which wears the ‘conspiracy’ label is a genuine conspiracy… but I do think there are probably quite a few more than you are willing to admit, Lehan.
One might observe that in a Macchiavellian world like the one we’re living in, where ideals are distrusted; where politicians are more interested in furthering their own careers than safeguarding the future of the nation(s), and where ‘realpolitik’ rules the day, government itself is a conspiracy!
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Living a roan. Do you think she plays her own piano?
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Before I watched the movie about Bohemia Grove I wrote a comment, that it beats me I conjured up reading the essay a dinner suited gentleman with a silver brush and pan table set clearing the banquet cloth of morsels however fallen, so plump I was enticed by them…which was reflection on the writing of your essay, that it was a spill, never aloof, never subjective, neither crackpot, and consistenly generous, forgiving of the reader might they balk at content, chatty, energetic. You have a tremendous skill for freewheeling asty out of a broad sweep of knowledge, writing, so much confidence you might engage the least engageable. It’s a spectator sport watching an essay like this roll onto the papyrus. Gold star.
IMAGINE when I watched Bohemian Grove how spooked I was by the metaphor of the dinner suited genlteman with the silver brush and pan table set clearing the banquet cloth. Mmmm. I’m fessin’ up.
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Thank you ‘Shoe, for those kind words on my writing style… So long since anyone gave me a ‘gold star’! For anything!
I’m glad you enjoyed reading it. But, what did you think of the content? It was intended, after all, to elicit debate…
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We need a bit of time to gather information and construct thought and we need debaters, old friend. I have read Morning of the Magicians however and I became introspective about its content and cultural background, the background of Aliester Crowley being shaped at and shaping Cambridge as a student, the vulnerability of tertiary graduates and professional staff in high places to joining the ‘Orange People’ (Raj Nish) in the 80s and when I say vulnerability I don’t mean that as a criticism. Along that vein, it is curious that the people allegedly shown in this film you included are graduates of some of the most elite colleges. I haven’t gotten very far beyond those thoughts but the attendees were an awful lot of men in more than one sense…perhaps. Hair raising film. Plenty to think about.
I clarify I am not going down the path of Are there UFOs…no/yes. 🙂
Unfortunately I have to head out for a while. I hope you get some takers for the debate who can develop it from what you present (or maybe find something in what I say to pick up on).
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I’m glad you chose not to take the UFOs, yes/no? path, ‘Shoe as I’ve tried to steer clear of it myself; it seems to me, that whether or not UFOs exist, the manner in which the phenomenon is dealt with socially and culturally; the manner in which it is so easily incorporated into modern versions of ancient beliefs, is really quite fascinating. The Serpent in the Garden of Eden is now the Annunaki; the ‘false’ gods who taught humanity technology (echoes, of course, of Hephaestos and Vulcan) and built the pyramids for them… It’s very hard to know even who is a credible witness any more…
My question will still be here when you get back…
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The idea of a conspiracy conjures for me a bunch of people up to no good unseen. It’s a scary committee. I got on to thinking last 24 hours about the meaning of ‘conspiracy’ being nebulous, amorphous, and scary. Wikipedia holds its own again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory.
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I checked Wiki, ‘Shoe, for its interesting article on ‘conspiracy theories’…. I note several things of interest, the most remarkable of which is the change in the perception of the term ‘conspiracy theory/theorist’ itself… Prior to the 60s, this phrase was used commonly enough without any prejudicial notions attaching themselves to the term; it is only SINCE the ’60s (ie. since the assassination of JFK!) that this term has acquired its prejudicial content, which now conjures up images of the drooling, tinfoil-hat-wearing, lunatic-fringe-type of person who is automatically discredited the moment the word ‘conspiracy’ is used. Why the sudden change in semantic content? And why just then? Coincidence, of course… 😉
And, as Wiki notes:
“Throughout human history, political and economic leaders genuinely have been the cause of enormous amounts of death and misery, and they sometimes have engaged in conspiracies while at the same time promoting conspiracy theories about their targets. Hitler and Stalin would be merely the 20th century’s most prominent examples; there have been numerous others.[23] In some cases there have been claims dismissed as conspiracy theories that later proved to be true.[24][25]”
It’s funny, isn’t it, how Watergate WAS a real conspiracy, yet it is not called a ‘conspiracy theory’; at least, not now that it’s been proven! (I guess Lehan didn’t see anything on the news about Watergate!)
I think anthropologists are intrigued by conspiracy theories and conspiracism because of the manner in which public perceptions are manipulated by individuals (whether conspiracists or ‘conspiracy theorists’, or by government and/or quasi-government organizations!)
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If you want to get embroiled in a conspiracy theory, google ‘vril’. The Nazis seemed to love this mob, to the point where they’d (supposedly) built a flying saucer in WWII, based on their designs.
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That’s quite possible M… ‘Vril’ may be another name, I suppose, for the kind of electr0-magnetic devices designed initially by Nikola Tesla; a man whose work could have made the world rich; but Edison obviously didn’t want the whole world to be rich; no fun bein’ rich if everyone else is; where’s the fun if there are no poor people to boss around any more? Otherwise we’d all be using Nikola Tesla’s own source of ‘free energy’ simply by tapping into existing magnetic fields. Quite obviously, Tesla was a communist though, so the CIA, possibly at the instigation of TE, had to die, didn’t he?
But, and this is the strange thing, M, there ARE real flying saucers; whether or not they are extraterrestrial in any sense of the word remains to be seen; but you’ve seen the Jesse Ventura movie on Area 51? No-one nowadays can plausibly deny they actually do exist.
What all this means, however, also remains to be seen…
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“…so the CIA, possibly at the instigation of TE, had to die,”
Should of course, read, “..so the CIA, possibly at the instigation of TE, had to kill him, didn’t they?”
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PS: The Illuminati were of course, also responsible for the assassination of JFK and LBJ and the CIA are emerging as the most likely historical candidates for the killer…
Oh… and here’s another video I meant to include in my narrative about Area 51:
http://youtu.be/nd0XBk7AJco
Do let me know what you think…
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