The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.
NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.
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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off. Like a sack of prawn heads in the sun. Something had to be done.
Moderation was taking forever. Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged. When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !
So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit. And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.
As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire. And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.
So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog. Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity. Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.
And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments. Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.
Cheers,
Emm.
Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
Annabel’s blog: Perhaps Bob brown has just matured. He is, after all, a nincompoop. Obama has an IQ double that of the world’s greatest treasurer, too. So I guess he even he can handle an Australian Parliament.
It won’t get up. But it felt good.
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This one was too late for the Drum story…
VL, try some Reindeer steaks with Cloud berries, better than Kangaroo with Mint sauce 🙂
(Sorry, of course Roast beef with Yourshire pudding might be your chosen option)
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The Dwumb, is very exasperating.
I was just set to have a tête-à-tête with Hayward, over on the Williams blog and they closed the thing. . .We only fired a couple of salvos. He’s good value Hayward, I respect him.
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An interesting read it was too Funston….and yes he is “good value”; sensible and considered.
How’s that back of yours?
And I see your grandson? in the pic with you. Where are your children?
Nearby? do they come and help you eat your garden offerings? Did you corral them into carrying pavers?
Why not? 😉
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Yes, 🙂 they probably do.
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atomou, left a note for you at The Dot, J.G. Put your slippers on and pad over.
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I used it, albeit, slightly differently, in The Dwumb, but thought it worth repeating:
The definition of an honest politician:
One, who, once he’s been bought, stays bought!
I likened it to Australia and it’s China syndrome 😉
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Oh well, that didn’t work.
I lost the post after trying to move it up. This site is a bit frustrating at times. :_
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But, continuing, from below stairs, I am a fan of absurdism. it came up the other day with Warrigal and Beckett, however it got trampled on as we swopped blogs.
It is, and always has been a platform for me in my everyday life. it makes me seem odd and doesn’t sit well with Australians, but I couldn’t care really. Henry Lawson, does nothing for me.
I sometimes write in here and Algy, or Helvi take me literally.
But I think (hope), that they love me really.♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♫♫♫♫♫
NOW: that’s me! What are you retired from. You can be vague. Warrigal is.
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Good Morn Funston, I too am a great fan of the Absurdists, or absurdism…..
Why do you think I read the conservative kaka that passes for comment on the Drum?
Why do you think I respond to those absurdist creations: Hermit and chipinga and Rusty so frequently?
I too have little time for Lawson and the jingoist Australian inclinations. I also, and in the same breath, care little for the buttoned down, unwashed, sycophantic and hypocritical English…
But that’s just me.
I am “retired” from nothing Funston. What makes you think I am “retired”?
Thanks for the explanation of Voices’ and atomou’s “Spartacus” gag. Yes I have read “King Rat” but it was some time ago and have forgotten all but the title.
Does Emmjay have any pseudonyms on the Drum that I would be aware of, by chance?
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Hi JG. I rarely go to the Drum these days. Most of my many many pseuds I used to have there are puns – like Armin di Nihill – from Aswan, Pugh Bicare, and when I was feeling naughty, I used Mike Hunt. I have posted as Yorick Hunt – on climate denialist Alan Moran’s blogs. Apparently the moderators read silently and auto filters are only just so smart.
But what’s the point in going to the trouble of inventing quality pseuds when the blogs and all the comments disappear before others can enjoy the work ? Hence the Pig’s Arms.
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JG, the Piglets have been busy on the ‘kaka’ blog, I too have taken to harassing Hermit, I haven’t seen my dear friend Chipinga for a while..
I always recogonise our Emms, but surely you would too…
PS. I hope the Wednesday friends are still friends 🙂
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Mmm, Emmjay, must come to the confession box himself, methinks.
Maybe he’s you 😉 ♂
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Hello Helvi, Yes I have seen your posts. Well done!
No, I don’t recognise Emmjay. Should I?
What are his pseudonyms….just quietly 😉
Thank you for asking……last night did not eventuate. Everyone cancelled for their own -family/work reasons. It was a slight relief i must say….my nerves were terrible.
I drove to a friends house – ate Thai and drank beer from another country…….and drove home late in the rain.
Perhaps next week…..
I feel no good will come of this…..
Hope you and gerard are well.
Looking forward to the “Slap” this evening.
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I don’t mind,unwashed..But…sycophantic…C’mon!
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Or, maybe he is you?
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I meant to write: maybe you are he!
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Isn’t it bloody amazing? Damon Young’s article is STILL listed under ‘Hot Topics’, even though comments have been closed on this article since the day after it was first posted! How can anything be considered a ‘hot topic’ when no-one’s allowed to comment on it?!
It was first posted on 10th; so let’s just see how long it lasts as a ‘closed for comment’ ‘hot topic’, eh? Maybe we should start a sweepstakes for whose guess is nearest… I reckon they’ll leave it there for at least another week…
😐
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ALL articles are guillotined on Friday evening.
I got a post up at 8:29, and the lights went out at 8:30
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Far out! You’re right too… it’s no longer a ‘hot topic’… Well whaddaya know!
Well… tomorrow I’ll have to visit Centrelink at Norwood to lodge my appeal; and there’s a ‘La-z-boy’ dealer at the top of the Parade, where I bought my current recliner (secondhand) so I’ll probably drop in there on my way back and get one quote from them… Then I suppose I’ll have to find another ‘La-z-boy’ dealer (think there’s one at Gepps Cross, which is probably the second closest to me) for the second quote… Then I’ll just have to post them off to my lawyer, who will forward them to Allianz and within a couple of weeks I should have a nice new, FITTED recliner… and by then I should have either a new helper, or my old helper back!
It’s been a struggle, but I think we’re winning (touch wood!)
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Emmjay says:
November 14, 2011 at 8:53 am
Good luck with the back, Jules. Are you referring to the recent Julian Barnes book ? It was a corker in my opinion.
Yes, I was. I can’t answer you, when you appear out of the cellar.
What do you know about J.G.? It’s not you is it??
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Actually, i don’t want personal information, that’s not what this blog is all about. A certain amount of anonymity is intriguing…’You know like my reply to Hung’s gift Ha Ha.’
I was just surprised that Warrigal, Voice and your good self haven’t conversed mush with him; yet helvi and J.G. are practically engaged…Poor old gererd 🙂
Do you all harbour a black secret that I am unaware off?
……
It is not your job to remeber every comment, however you may recall that I wrote once that we have a lot of books, but I have fallen out of the habit of reading.
This got the juices going. It was short and sweet, with plenty to think about; re-examine and rewrite, in one’s head.
When I read this it make me shy to write.
That’s one of my problems really. I just don’t think that i can aspire to the standard that I would like yto achieve.
Atomou could, but he has a one track mind: grease.
Maybe I could write something and send it to him to proof;) 🙂
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It appears that the narcotics from this mornings injection are still coursing through your wrinkled body Old Sport!
If you have a question – ask it.
If not – ask it anyway….I should like the opportunity to reply in the manner of ….yourself!
You have given me a tremendous laugh and I thank you for it.
Drinks are on me, what’ll ya have?
“shy to write” – come now Funston…it would be a treat to hear you thoughts on this Barnes novella.
Grab your courage and your wit and your charm and your……anonymity, and let rip!
The memory and experiences and thoughts of others are perhaps my favourite thing.
After all, why else do we read, or look at pictures, or study buildings…..if not to hear what others are thinking.
To show my good faith I shall ask first.
What was it about the novel that prompted a memory in you of a “rewrite”?
Proceed at your leisure.
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Have you read it?
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No. I have not.
But don’t let that stop you…..expressing yourself….freely.
As a postscript – Emmjay has introduced himself. Warrigal and Voice are unknown to me.
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I like that! Who was it that spotted your entry here and gave you a enough pointers to orient yourself? And is currently arguing with you as VoR on the blog of that aging abject ALP apologist Mungo MacCallum? What more do you want, a formal introduction by Julia Gillard? 🙂
Anyway, enjoy your day the both of you.
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Aha! My sincere apologies Voice. My memory is not what it used to be.
Aha! so you are VoR? Well, well, well……..everyone starting to reveal themselves 🙂
I suppose it’s my turn now…….I am also custard, chipinga and Herrmit!!!
Bet none guessed that!
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This would have been the cue for a chain of Spartacus jokes, but been there, done that. 🙂
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Shit, you can read my brain, Voice!
I was tempted to start that chain. Very much! But only for a fleeting moment! I knew you’d be expecting it and I didn’t want to show just how predictable some men are!
Give them an “I am” and they’ll declare they’re Spartacus himself -if not Zeus!
Well done my cherry. (Anglogallically speaking)
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Sorry chaps – you’ve lost me there.
Was it directed at me?
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No J.G.; it was directed TO you. Mine anyway.
Would it have been better if I had just written “I’m Spartacus”?
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Maybe, but you’d be imposturising!
I am SPARTACUS!
Others are just usses.
(Sometimes I work too hard at homonymic malapropisations)
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Homophonic, even. Dyspropisms.
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Ummm, I am still lost.
Should I come back another day?
Funston, tell me your thoughts on the Barnes novel.
I am curious.
Hello again atomou 🙂
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Hi, JG. Barnes’ book is on its way. That and his preceding one. I’ve never read any of his works so I’ve ordered the last two. Will let you know as soon as I’ve read them.
Right now I’m going through Kate Grenville’s second book. I’ve read Searching for the Secret River and now into The Lieutenant. Highly commendable stuff. She writes most gratifyingly. Next I’ll be reading her The Idea of Perfection.
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I see it as a bit fruitless, if you haven’t read it.By rewrite, I meant that, Barnes has obviously left some interpretation that could be attached by a reader. One is left wondering a few things. However I can’t see the point of writing about it , as you wouldn’t know to what I was referring.
It resonates with me, because I went to boarding school in England, plus the language is right up my street ( excuse the vernacular).
But, there are a lot of red herrings and innuendos. The father with beery breath, the anxious, sensuous mother, the hint of incest; resonating, phrasing returning. Also boredom, conventionality, laziness, sexuality, odd behaviour….It’s the whole fucking gamut J.G!
It needs two reads, or backtracking at the end. Some of his original comments, to do with the merging of memory and imagination, become more relevant later in this short book.
I love his language, and felt some consolation for my use of parentheses, colons ect.
Read the book and come back with your homework.
I’t probably a mirror for many 😉
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I could have posted you mine atomou. H.I. has read it; which was great for a dog walking discussion. Or, should I say a discussion, while walking the dogs.
I have perused twice. It was 29.90 in a shop. Probably cheaper on line. Post to you probably 5 bucks.
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If I have to precis it. AND go out on a limb, before “youse” two read it, I would say it is more about the writer Tony Webster, who typifies a lot of us at that age 🙂
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Funston, what you say about me not having read the book would make any discussion “fruitless”…..is not the way I think about these things. To be sure, without my reading the novel, I can have no idea as to the specifics, the context…..but for me Funston the general is as important as the particular. I can listen, I can ask questions, I can draw parallels and I can make my own connections – to my life, to the things that I’ve read and seen…..
….and so I learn a little more about you…..and you a little more about me.
There is a literary theory called Reader Response Funston……and one of the things it explores is the relationship of the reader to the text and the site where the production of “meaning” takes place – in this case, the reader. It suggests that the reader is essential in the completion of meaning – that without the reader the text is nothing, that the reader is the sole positer of meaning.
I mention this because this is how I approach situations of this kind. One of the ways I should say.
I shall glean my meaning of Barnes’ text from you Funston, from YOUR interpretation, from your contextual relations, from your responses, questions, memories and conceptions.
Barnes’ novel is made real by your experience and your story…..and I wish to hear about your story, not necessarily Barnes’ fiction, but Funston’s reality.
And if you think I’m joking, or that I say this ….casually….. ask me one day as to my thoughts on a few of Pollock’s 1947 -1951 canvases. Or Beckett…..or Rothko…or Joyce, Dostoevsky or Reinhardt… or Judd or Andre or Bellow or White…..or Kline and Picasso/Braque…or Camus and Kafka……………….
I am rambling – but you get my meaning.
Psst, do have any idea what Voice and atomou were talking about?
The two old buggers have stumped me! 😉
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Mt mouse has stopped.So I’ll be brief.
Istly Voice is young: a filly.
The Spartacus thing is realted to everyone owning up to the crime, or joining in to hide the perpetrator. That’ s my understanding. All step forward and get hung together (crucified).
Do you remember in “king Rat”, the story abouy the American who was a leader in thae Changi concentration camp, where they all stood forward to admit to building a secret radio. John Mills was in it.
I’ll have to truncate this. I’ll rummage in the garage for another mouse. Although I’m fearful that the USB ports have gone on strike. I’ll switch off.
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Young. I think I’m in love. May I call you Vee? 🙂
Definitely not old. And by no stretch of the imagination a bugger.
I don’t notice anyone correcting the description of atomou however. 🙂
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50% correct, Voice. I’m no bugger… but I DO buggerise around a lot!
I just lerrrrv Ozlish!
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Fixed the mouse………I’m going upstairs J.G.
I can’t be bothered to keep scrolling up to find the reply button. Sometimes it’s as high as an elephants eye (Oklahoma for the unmusical).
Going back to your penchant for character delving; knowledge perhaps too: I wear my heart on my sleeve.There’s not much more than what you see.
In fact atomou has offtimes called me an ignorant simpleton. Something that I was not called in my literature, language, acting and history classes, at school. However it’s a trait that I’ll admit to having honed and sculpted, especially in my efforts to throw grenades into ‘Unleashed’.
I’m at the age, to quote atomou yet again, where I feel free to state my thoughts without the charade of going along with the ‘faux’, ‘well intended’.
Camus is mentioned in Julian Barnes’s novel. As you will see 🙂
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To Mango Macduff:
There is no such thing as left & right any more in commerce and ecology. It’s only the left, at the behest of their two brained economy: academia & unions, that have perpetually promulgated this..
The world is going green, through realised necessity. There was no need for the Canberran civil servant carbon tax for quangos; a joke anyway, in the light of us being the world’s pollutant ingredient pushers. We need something more radical.
What Australia needs to look to, is, what do we do with the money from the mining boom?
It’s no good waffling on about renewable energy products. Indian kids and Chinese coolies will always undercut us.
It’s no good importing migrants and building infrastructure that can’t be supported when the income dries up. What are we gonna pay the loans with? We don’t even make cars. They’re all foreign; and will close in a trice if’n we don’t prop them up.
Oh alas, please enter the Liberals, under Turnbull and put a blow torch to the obtunded, anachronistic unions. Professional mediation is the go. The world watch word now is mediation. Sink or swim!
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“Indian kids and Chinese coolies will always undercut us”.
They deleted this. It has changed the whole tone morons.
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Hehehehe… I made the mistake last night of ‘just quickly checking out’ the Drum before going to bed and ended up sitting up late responding to the new ‘non’-religious blog… I don’t know how many of the posts I wrote will be there today (haven’t checked yet!) but here’s one I thought may not get up that I had the forethought to copy before posting:
Joe Strummer :
10 Nov 2011 3:03:55pm
The main thing that I have against the religions, is that the chances of a Buddist, catholic or Islamist born to a Jew or Greek orthodox, is so unlikely; impossible really, that it demonstrates the indoctrination that exists, to get to the one true-faux faith.
Just as likely that the universe evolved and life within it did too.
What seems unlikely is that there is a conveniently invisible deity, that wants to be worshipped. Rather fanciful, methinks.
It’s all about control. The boogie man will get you.
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Antecessor :
10 Nov 2011 6:00:17pm
There is only one thing worse than a rightwing christian, and I’m afraid thats a rightwing atheist.
These types of atheists only embrace atheism to totally remove any moral values from their lives, to be as corrupt, greedy and immoral as they like without the burden of religions rules.
Rightwing atheism is what gives rise to social darwinian viewpoints, dog eat dog, and inevitably death eugenics.
My Response to Antecessor 111111:
I’d like to know how you define ‘rightwing atheism’? How does it differ from ‘leftwing atheism’… And ‘rightwing’ christianity most certainly ends up, even if it doesn’t specifically aim at, being just as morally corrupt and as socially destructive as what you describe as ‘rightwing atheism’…
IMHO, atheism itself cannot be either left- or right-wing since it consists SOLELY in the rejection of belief in a deity and does not represent any kind or form of ideology, political or otherwise… On the other hand, one cannot say the same about religion since it is full of doctrine, dogma and ideology.
BTW, I do agree with your negative appraisal of rightwing christianity and indeed rightwing religion in general, as it is this type of thinking which comes up with such abominations as notions of ‘heresy’, which in turn gives rise to the Inqusition (bet you didn’t expect that eh? No-one expects the Inquisition!) and burning of dissenters at the stake.
I wonder if this means that ‘leftwing’ christianity is more accepting, or at least more tolerant of heterogeneous beliefs and/or disbelief… or is that too much to hope for?
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Off to see my doctor today to get another letter for my lawyer, whom I’m seeing immediately after the doctor, to pass on to the insurance company in the hope they might give me back the helper that I dismissed in February ’cause doing everything for myself is giving me a terrible and constant bachache… I feel like such a pratt for having to ask for him again, especially after having said ‘no’ when the insurance company offered to give him back to me a few months ago, when I still thought I could manage on my own. Keep your fingers crossed for me won’t you…
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Asty, I only read your ever so polite reply my complaint that so many so-called atheist can be rather militant or at least intolerant (not you)…and many proud atheist spell atheism, athiesm…LOL
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I’ve just checked Damon Young’s blog Helvi and find that all nine of my comments managed to get up! Of course, it remains to be seen whether or not they will be allowed to stay there!
You know, if ‘many proud atheists’ spell ‘atheism’, ‘athiesm’, all this would appear to suggest is that they are so lacking in ideology that they can’t be bothered to learn how to spell the word correctly… though more likely even than that is that it’s just a typo and hence quite meaningless…
I think, however, that any intolerance displayed by atheists (have I spelled that correctly?) is perfectly understandable given the millenia of constant intolerance of atheists by various religions, to the point that unbelievers have been (and still are being) constantly persecuted by the religious… I don’t condone it, mind you… but I DO understand it!
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Well done indeed astyages!
All 9!!
I read the entire exchange and it is most refreshing to listen to an ENTIRE conversation.
A rarity!
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Thank you JG… It does make a nice change to be able to read a whole conversation, doesn’t it? Once upon a time that was the norm; now it’s an increasing rarity!
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Not sure what that was all about T2. Strummer, Antimacassars, gods, right wing ghosts?
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I thought I’d put my own response in the proper context by including the other interlocutors, Vectis Lad; Strummer is the first poster; AntiCESSOR is the second, and then you have my contribution. After that it’s just a bit of chat…
The upshot of it all was that I was questioning the concept of ‘rightwing atheism’… as atheism has no doctrine or ideology, it can hardly be either right or left wing, which does not mean to say that individual atheists can’t be right or left wing, but their politics is a function of their own personalities and socio-cultural backgrounds, and not, as Antecessor would seem to suggest, a function of their atheism…
Clear enough for you, Vectis Lad?
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Without gogling, do you know who Joe Strummer was?
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Can’t say that I do, Vectis Lad… Who is/was he?
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Someone with only one good song astyages……and don’t let Funston tell you any different!
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Careful J.G, or you may give ‘your’ psued’ personna away 😉
Joe Strummer is an icon in music genre (influence) terms. He was also a ‘greenie’, prior to his preamture death.
Pretend tags The Clash; Pogues ect. Contemporary of the sex pistols. ‘bit of a lad’..
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I should add that he was magnetic and manic. I met him 🙂
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Asty, VL, the plot thickens,I wrote many posts yesterday and Mods were kind to me…only two were not published; one reply to Joe Strummer and another to the xenophobic and mean-spirited Michael Too….and no, VL, you are not Michael, ‘he’ is female, and you are not nasty. 🙂
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VL, we are not giving anything away here, our lips are sealed, mute as HOO says.
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Funston – you met him you say?
Normally I would ask for details…an anecdote, real or apocryphal, it matters not.
But your reputation for hinting, for allusion, goes before you.
So I shall refrain.
My “persona” is not under threat Funston.
Not anymore than yours, anyway.
How many do you have now – 4, 5, 6 ?
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None of my anecdotes are apocryphal J.G.
My pedigree has been explained to Les Patrons.
I have used up to 50 pseuds, over the years. They don’t necessarily run concurrently and some of them are just for a particular post.
I feel the urge to change approx every 3 months I don’t know why, however it amuses me.
Maybe I feel exculpated from some of my own comments. But I actually thing that I waste my time since, the bogans will argue about Australian MPs, and their boring lives, till the cows come home.
The arguments are the same too. I feel that even if someone mooned, the reply would be, Andrew Bolt & the IPA are to blame .
It’s classic 4 legs good 2 legs bad.
With Ludwig as Napoleon.
I must away. It was good walking this morn and being advised (by a fellow dog walker)that The Gold Coast, where I live, has secured The Commonwealth Games. Although it is years away! Everyone seems euphoric. Except for me.
“When you’re out to get the honey you don’t go killing all the bees”
― Joe Strummer
“Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistance. Talent will not. There is nothing more common then unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not. Unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not. The world if full of educated derelicts. Persistence and Determination alone are Omnipotent.” Joe Strummer.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t follow his creed; and indeed I am not a huge fan. I will have moved on in a few weeks. Any suggestions? Old king?
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Hey, I can actually play a song that Joe Strummer may have had a hand writing: “Dirty Old Town” by the Pogues… Didn’t really get into the Clash…
Of course Vectis Lad’s met him… he’s met EVERYBODY!
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Helvi, being ‘nicely nasty must have worked! Well done!
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JG Cole, we been away and I just noticed your little ‘hi’ post below…I hope the problems caused by your young friends have been sorted 🙂
I had to chuckle at you calling yourself ‘a double agent’ on Ellis ‘ blog, it would make nice new Pseudonym, don’t ya think 🙂
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Did you spot my latest pseud?
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No.
Where should I look?
How are the pavers?
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Now VL, you have to name one blog you been writing on, and I will tell you…
Sometimes i can’t be bothered to read the article, let alone all replies.
So, where should I go?
By the way did you spot me on the Ellis blog?
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The paving has become a mini nightmare. In striving to be parsimonious, I bought seconds–a third of the price–and engaged a labourer that I have used before. He is very industrious, but has a lot of baggage. One morning his ex, deflated two tyres on his van and another morning he ‘had to do something’. It is a never ending litany of late starts and ‘nipping off’ to borrow something.
The pavers have some flaws, both in faded colouring and thickness, however I always figured that the ugly ones would be used for edges and cutting.
It’s working out, but the $1000, that I have saved has been replaced by angst, tinctured with purgatory. As befits a mean deed!
Still it’s heaps better than the scrub, that the 600x 400 greyish pavers are replacing.
All so that the dogs, can’t roll in the dust & bark (excuse pun).
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Good morning Helvi,
The Ellis blog was a nightmare! Every time I think that ABC moderation has hit the extreme point of absurdity, it pushes the line further. I had a least 6 posts, some short, some long, culled. They were direct responses to Bob’s questions of me.
I can fathom no reason why they would have been culled.
I took it upon myself to write directly to the Mods seeking clarification and expressing my extreme disgust at the manner in which they cull.
I was very cross that a conversation, apolitical and literature/history/philosophical based, should have been so rudely moderated.
My double agent crack was a reminder from another life. I have had a decade of brushing off that charge…….sometimes it fits, other times not.
Hope you are well.
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JG Cole, I enjoyed reading your and DQ’s learned posts on the Ellis blog. Indeed it was clear that Ellis wanted to keep the story going. He must have been equally disappointed about the abrupt closure of the blog. We hardly ever get anything on literature or other arts on Drum, so they should have let all your posts through…
The weirdest thing happened to me yesterday, I gave someone a heartfelt compliment, I was being nice and polite, they did not put it up….better be nasty , not nice 🙂
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I guess compliments just don’t make for exciting reading, Helvi… but for the life of me I still can’t think why anyone would censor anything you post… you’re one of the most polite posters there… Maybe that IS what you’re doing wrong. Next time, tell ’em what you REALLY think!
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OK, Asty, I’ll be nicely nasty, not nastily nice…yes, nicely nasty, be cutting in nicest possible way 🙂
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Attagirl!
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Now you have me very intrigued to hear about your former life as a ‘double agent’ JG… C’mon mate… spill the beans!
🙂
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Helvi, hi. Every day a new act of absurdity it seems. I found gerard’s post on the “Rosie” article very interesting….it pointed to a few things that were both insightful and peculiar to my situation, my family situation I mean. I wrote a response detailing some of my thoughts in light of those (gerard’s) insights.
and can you guess what was published?
That’s right!
Just the simple “Bravo gerard”.
And the rest?
Gone……at the whim of some fool who parcels out our thoughts as if they were giving away money!
Shameful. Inexplicable.
Regarding that…other …matter.
I go for a drink on Wednesday evening with one of them.
Something will be said.
How can it not?
I am nervous…..angry….and deeply disappointed.
We shall see which path we are to take.
“Double Agent” astyages refers, not to covert life of espionage or cross dressing, of prostitution or of my time as a young Liberal staffer, but to another thing…..altogether! 😉
If there were “beans” to spill I would need mops aplenty to clean the mess!!
Enjoy the week-end, both of you.
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JG, it’s all rather intriguing…I found your extremely short reply uncharacteristic of you…
Maybe the nasty Michael Too is one of the Mods , her (yes) posts are on every page.
Friends that cause real hurt to you are not real friends. If the hurting is intentional, I always find it hard to forgive. Straight talk and clumsiness I can tolerate…I do it myself 🙂
I have let one friendship go only lately…
If those people are not too important to you, let go of them 🙂
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Friends are hard to come by Helvi. Unlike family: one is stuck with them.
Acquaintances are another matter, we’ve all got zillions.
But friendship requires work and sometimes deeds. Talk is cheap.
A good heart these days is hard to find(A good heart)
True love, the lasting kind
A good heart these days is hard to find
So please be gentle with this heart of mine
My expectations may be high, I blame it on my youth
Soon enough I’ll learn the painful truth
I’ll face it like a fighter, then boast of how I’ve grown
Anything is better than being alone
I know ’cause I learn a little every day
I know ’cause I listen when the experts say-
That !
Actually that’s part of a love song that was made famous by Fergal Sharkey, an unusually voice Irish Singer. It wasn’t written by him, however.
It applies in friendship too–so I’ve often thought.
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VL, maybe some ‘friends’ never were real friends, just a habit, dinner party/ drinks mates.. too much maintenance needed, for very little award or pleasure/enjoyment 🙂
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JG, you’re a tease!
😉
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To Helvi, Wednesday night will determine the condition, or better yet, the definition, of our friendship. I remain hopeful, yet still feel a deep unease at as to the reasons why we’ve arrived at this place in the first instance. Apologies are one thing, understanding are another.
I feel trapped…and each possible move exposes me more….to the whims of my temper.
To astyges, only on a Saturday night…..some Tom Waits on, a little whiskey…a flickering neon neon coming through the buckled window blinds…..;)
To Funston, you live on the Gold Coast you say? My first love, my first heartbreak, my
first friend has moved to Montville….we recently made a connection after half a lifetime of silence. If that is near you stop in for me and have a drink…..say hello from me. Tell
them I am well and have never forgotten that glorious winter…..sweet, sweet,
kisses…..soft skin.
Suggestions? I can suggest only that which I am reading now – Wallace Stevens and essays from Rosalind Krauss. Ask me about Krauss – I’m sure I can find a “creed” for you there 😉
To gerard, it is now Saturday after 2 and I”m still a littler drunk….so follow me.
Carefully and happily.
I had 2 obvious and insistent thoughts whilst reading your post on Manolis last week.
And they keep niggling at me…
And it unfurled, like a dream, Manolis’ Dream….a dream in which I have been both witness and participant….I saw before me the slow unfolding of memory, I saw them all: father and uncles, mother and aunties and cousins and family dancing, the men drunk, shirts unbuttoned and whiskey bottles in hand – Matisse’s “Dance of Life” in my backyard…Manolis and his dying friend, arm in arm, drunk, singing , dancing…..
I have seen that dance 100 times, I have held the shoulders of Manolis and his cancerous friend 100 times…..we swing around and laugh…dance! dance! dance!….
Dizzy…..
And my mind spun toward Joyce and “Ulysses” and Manolis’ Night Journey.
Did you notice the parallels?
Did you see the thematic dovetail?
Manolis groaning under the weight of his mortality at his friends funeral (Ulysses – Hades). The temporality tormenting him…death, a primal vision staring back at him from the casket…he meditates on his wife; her bitterness and anger.,….Bloom see’s before him (in Calypso) “a barren land, bare waste. Dead. An old woman’s grey sunken cunt of the world”. Manolis recoils and fight s with his wife…..”the soft breasts of a young woman” coaxing him onward….he seeks drink (Lestrogonians).
Manolis/Bloom visits a brothel……(Circe)….and seeks, via the breasts of a young woman ,to return to a former life…..the breasts as portal…..to his former self.
He leaves and returns to his (Penelope) Koula……and lays himself out to rest…..
“at rest relative to themselves and to eachother….in motion…”
The Night Journey complete.
There are many, many more…..but I cannot write them now.
I need water.
We shall talk more later………..
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JG, your friends in question obviously mean a lot to you…you seem very hurt by their actions/words…by all means have it out with them but keep the Irish temper down, don’t get too angry and aggressive, own your hurt, don’t blame (never helpful), stay calmly assertive…
If they are real friends, they’ll apologise and you can have a toast for a lasting friendship
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…I sent the above post before finishing my last sentence….I meant to say that with old friends all problems have been sorted over the years 🙂
Good luck and I’ll be thinking of you on Wednesday night 🙂
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J.G.Cole:
You have put is so well.
And when Manolis goes home, after his club 96 visit and ‘I just will hold you’ whereby the gentle and sympathetic prostitute puts her arm around him, he touches her soft yielding breast. Afterwards, he lays next to his wife when the still warm memory of it, causes an erection to poke up. His wife, casting a side-long glance, says, ‘I am not getting anywhere near THAT THING, this brings him (and us) back to the devastingly normality of life.
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J.G’s post prompted me to look at your comment. I had ignored the blog, gerard: not my cup’o tea.
But I’m curious. You wrote the comment without your usual Dutch Accent? Was it ghost written; is your language improving, or is it a masquerader ? 😉
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Good morning Helvi. Thank you for your encouraging words. Oh, I am not Irish.
To gerard, yes indeed…..there is much to explore in that episode. The drunken dancing scene was, for me, on par with Rosie’s courtroom scene – simply brilliant drama – wonderfully full representations.
To Funston, so, old man? Do you live anywhere near Montville?….:)
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Nooo, J.G. For my sins I live walking distance from here:
http://www.theartscentregc.com.au/
Just off for a spinal injection. Should be fun; with an attempt being made to block nerve root sheath for sciatic pain.
I’ll have to lay off the gardening for a couple of days…The cos are 20cms high now, so same progress has been made.
Just read a brilliant, reflective book. I’ve referred to it at the top of The Dot. Causes one to reflect on the story, but also one’s own life where facts can merge with imagination.
Toodle pip.
╒unston Strummer.
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Good luck with the back, Jules. Are you referring to the recent Julian Barnes book ? It was a corker in my opinion.
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Huh! Did you tell them that gardening involves lounging around with a T&T watching someone install your pavers? 🙂
Hope your doctors have cause for self-congratulation soon.
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Spinal injection at 9am Monday morn?!?!
Well, champion effort old boy!
Should be a real knee’s up!
Let us know how you get on….
Tally Ho!
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JG, ‘ being Irish’ was just meant as a cheeky reference to your rambling ‘Joyce-an’ writing style…
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Best of luck, VL…hopefully it’s not too painful, whatever they are doing to you 🙂
As for the foreign accents, yours and mine and Gerard’s or anyone else’s, don’t you think, they make Australia a more interesting place…: )
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Here’s something I just posted on the ‘anti-porn’ blog in reply to this response from Mary2, which may or may not get through… it depends on whether or not the censor (I refuse to use the euphemism, ‘moderator’! Let’s call a spade a bloody spade!) one, recognizes my irony, and two, appreciates the joke… So I’m posting it here, just in case:
08 Nov 2011 11:00:55am
Mitor the Bold
People like you said things like that about lady Chatterley’s Lover.
ReplyAlert moderator
Mary2 :
08 Nov 2011 2:22:00pm
But look what happened. We legalised Lady Chatterley’s Lover and all of a sudden we have No Fault divorce allowing people who hate each other to end their relationships and gay people wanting legal recognition of their relationships. Where will it end! It is a slippery slope, my friend.
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Such terrible crimes, Mary! ‘No fault divorce’! How dare they allow people who hate each other to end their relationships! They should be forced to stay together for the sake of the children (even if there ARE NONE!) who can only benefit from livingn in a hate-filled household!
And how DARE those gays even THINK to ASK for legal recognition of their relationships!
They should all be burned at the stake for not practicing good ol’ missionary-position-only-sex in total darkness and divested only of those items of clothing whose removal are absolutely necessary for the act of sex, which must ONLY EVER be about ‘making a baby’… and never, EVER just for fun!
Where will it all end? Why, in nothing short of PERSONAL FREEDOM… and we can’t have that now, can we?! Why it would be ANARCHY! CHAOS!
😉
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Asty, did you posts get up, we been away so I haven’t had time to check, read or write anything yet?
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Haven’t checked it myself yet, Helvi… Hang on a mo… I’ll do it now!
🙂
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Nope! That one didn’t get a guernsey… Another one of my remarks to the same Mary2 did get up though, but as it was neither ironic nor sarcastic, it was a relatively tame one…
Thank Gord we have ‘Leashed’ here!
🙂
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Of course, this blog is now closed for comment…
😐
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Asty, I really don’t know how the Mods operate on the Drum; I sent something under my own name and they did not put it up, I persisted under a Pseudonym and it appeared on the soap box 🙂
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I was a bit naughty this morning and wrote on Sloan’s blog:
Ah, the ennui of the Monday morning, I’m going on strike, I have a right not to be bored.
(of course they did not publish it…I just could not help myself…is P Reith going to be the next one)
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Good morning Helvi, I too succumbed to that sweet temptation.
Let us hope we are published……or perhaps not. 🙂
It appears that my friendship with some dear friends is……unraveling.
I am at a loss to understand it.
I suspect, and have suspected, their marriage to be….tenuous. They are perhaps finding solidarity in this rupture with me.
I am at a loss to understand their purpose.
Can I trouble you for counsel?
Ta,
😦
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Dear Mr Cole, I need something tangible ( a piece of clothing,a ring) from your mysterious warring couple to be able to predict happiness or even more misery for them..
I hardly know anyone who hasn’t divorced at least once…no one has taken my advice to stay together in the past…they are unlikely to start now…
As you might observe, I’m being unusually careful here 🙂
If the mods don’t always appreciate your posts, you are getting some adoring fans on UL. ….
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Dear Helvi, I can offer you nothing more tangible that these words: it seems as though some lunacy has befallen my friends who have singled me out for their juvenile game. My crime? They asked me a question…….and I answered it.
I have no clue as to the source of their pain or anger, and I feel most hurt by their response and their manner of dealing with it.
And somewhere there is a deep sense of shame and embarrassment that ones of our age should partake in such absurdity.
My father tells me, with a smile, that absurdity is a close and steady companion to man and that one should acquaint oneself with it on more familiar and jovial terms – more as a Lucky than a Pozzo.
I suspect he is correct.
There is no need for you to be careful. Speak freely.
Recount for me a story of your friends – perhaps it is similar…..how can it not be?
Fans?
Me?
How do you mean?
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I’m surprised that your posts don’t always get up…the ones that do are usually pretty good value. I think more and more people are agreeing with me that they add to the conversations on UL.
I’m sorry but without knowing anything concrete about the problems your young friends are causing you, I have to abstain from advising…even here at Pigs things can get a bit unpleasant at times 🙂
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Mute
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Mute
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Mute, mute, gag, gag, silence
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Ta Helvi. You are most kind.
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Gordon?!?!?!
Is that you?
I know I’m only new here……but,
Good God man!!
What is that!!??
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Chuck ‘mute’ down the drain. It’s not good, bad for your health and damages everything around you.
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Helvi, hi.
Are you there?
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®®®®®®®……………..Comments for this story are closed. No new comments can be added.
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J G Cole,
” It was oblique, I know…..forgive me.”
You said that to OUB on Tad’s blog. I’m curious as why you are deliberately obscure…on these fast moving blogs people don’t have the time to ponder about other posters’ meaning too long and they move on…
As I said, just curious.
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Helvi, hi.
I was being a little facetious with OUB. I wasn’t being “oblique” at all.
I was simply teasing……out the conceit of his/her “tell it to the choir” remark.
I didn’t wish it to go unaddressed.
I’m certain OUB knew that……I believe that’s why they adopted the slightly condescending tone of “tell me slowly”.
Ah Helvi, it’s just me trying to add the tiniest of somethings to the conversation – so much culled, so much abbreviated….it’s all I have left.
But I like OUB and I shall continue my tryst.
And how are you today?
What are you reading?
Just curious 🙂
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Taking my Mum, up to Perigian to stay with my brother.
He’s a big racing fan, so we’ll have Melbourne Cup there. he studies the form, which is his undoing. I stick a pin in it. Sometimes I’m lucky sometimes not.
Who are you picking for the cup , GO’D, Hung HOO?
There must be an anagram there..
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Oh ho gundog.
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Very difficult this year Your Worship. The overseas horses should dominate again. Probably the favourite Amercain however a roughie Glass Harmonium. The roughie would need to lead, not burn too many petrol tickets and pull away in the straight, yes I know, I’m dreaming.
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Funston, you asked me on one of Drum stories what I was most scared of…I sweetly replied, it did not get up…
You used your latest pseudo,which I can’t remember.. 🙂
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Conflatious, Helvi.
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Did you go to sleep ᅢelvi? Conflatious had a good run at the UK blog.╊╊╊╊ ╊╊.₤
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VL, yes, poetry and all, there are some good posts on that blog by Drum Major, and I had to laugh Om Marit writing about English slums…
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Seeing it doesn’t want to live in Australia
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Good Morning Gordon. Just wanted to post to say how happy I was to see the “Find My Way Home” clip on your front page today. It threw me back half a lifetime! What an absolute treat on an otherwise overcast, indifferent, morn.
Sipping on my tea I thought about one of my favourite guitar breaks – Mick Taylor “Sympathy For the Devil” from the live “Get Yer Ya Ya’s Out”.
Here is the youtube link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSjT1JBLnN4
Apprenticed under John Mayall in his Bluesbreakers ( I saw them live about 20 ish years ago) then unleashed during the best Stones years, in my opinion, 1969-1975, I would extend the invitation to anyone to find me a finer blues/rock break than that beginning at around 5.10.
I look forward to the suggestions.
Cheers to you and Funston, Helvi, Atomou and the others!
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Damnation!
My attack on Abbott’s poker tax story this morning on the Drum has not been published!!!
Damn them!
I will try again……a little softer perhaps.
Damn them!
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…I can’t see mine either, maybe it was TOO soft…
I have sooo much to learn from you tough thick-skinned Piglets 🙂
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Oh Helvi , I was so angry!
I thought I had put forth a firm and true case exposing Abbott’s nonsense. I was gentle in tone to guarantee (or so I thought) publication.
I can fathom no rhyme or reason to the Mods logic.
It is frustrating.
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I don’t get it either, on Gerard’s story I wrote something under my own name, it did not get there… later on I put the same post under a pseudo and it made to the soap box…!
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Oh dear me!
This is a hopeless endeavour Helvi.
I too posted on Gerard’s article. It was quite innocuous really…..just to say i enjoyed the piece and thought his style worthy of the content.
It failed to publish.
Strange.
Hope you are having a lovely day.
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JG, you get my second on the Mick Taylor break. I really like the Get Yer Ya-Yas Out Live album. Keith’s guitar soars for so many of the tracks. Carol really rocks along, doesn’t it ?
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Indeed it does Emmjay.
What did you make of that clip?
So……any suggestions for a comparable rock/blues solo?
What do you have in mind?
Two other studio ones i have in mind are Mick Taylor on “100 years ago” and on “Sway”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAAQ3rwh8nY – from 2.50 on
The Rolling Stones-100 Years Ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN4UDVDWgDo – from 2.40 on.
The Rolling Stones-Sway
Simply stunning.
To any old English Mad Dogs out there – could someone explain to me what on earth this……dancing is……!!!!!!
Funston – I’m looking at you!
Ta.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzAEtLPSzRg – at 5.40 to 5.58
The Rolling Stones-Sympathy for the Devil
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I was there.
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You are a lucky man your Worship
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Where?????????
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J.G, of indeterminate gender, I was there in Hyde Park that day.
I remember it vividly. I joked with Emmjay, some time ago that I was in the clip. And I guess am; somewhere. I was sporting a white, Indian type, cotton top and longish, hippyish hair. Not too long; just Californian long.
It was a nice day. The air was thick with ganga, not mine, but the multitude’s.
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Good God Man!!!!
Tell me all you remember.
I shall ask till I plumb the bottom of your memory well.
And tell me about that funny dance.
When I awake I expect the first installment.
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C;mon Funston!
Enough with the making me wait nonsense!
Let’s hear a story.
C’mon man!
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I will attend to it later. I was just perusing my emials, prior to taking the dogs @6:55 Qld time, then organising some road base to be compacted ready for sand–then pavers. As well as organising a skip and ordering the actual pavers. Oh and hiring a compactor..
So, a full morning. But I will dwell at tea-time. I mean tea in the English sense, not antipodean 🙂
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ARGHHHH Funston!
If you think, if you are under the crazy assed impression, that holding me off like this shall only increase my anticipation……then you would be correct!!
Damn your cagey inclinations!
So be it.
Conclude your compacting and pavers……
and dwell at your leisure.
I shall ask again at a later date.
If you concede that a “later date” includes in about 15 minutes 😉
Toss me a morsel.
what is that bikie dance thing?
and were you a participant?
haha
ahahaha
ahaha
I shall look out for you later.
Cheers,
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Perhaps, while you’re waiting for the UK’s ‘tea-time’, I might be able to whet your appetite a little, JG, by informing you as to the nature of the bikies’ ‘dance’:
I first saw this phenomenon in The Anglers’ Inn in Bedford, but it appeared to be quite popular throughout the ‘home counties’… It was known as the ‘Ace’ and was the bikies’ attempt to be able to jig around on the dancefloor digging the beat without looking like a poofter; you just looked like a pillock instead! There were no ‘steps’ in this dance; indeed, feet must be firmly planted at all times, so the aggressively masculine alternating shoulder thrusting doesn’t throw you off your balance… Men stand opposite each other and do this dance in much the same way as girls dance round their handbags…
In terms of hermeneutics, what it means is “I’m here and I’m really a cool guy in spite of all this bikie clobber and I really dig the music and I really wanna dance but I’m too shy and sensitive to have enough guts to ask a girl to dance with me, and besides, I don’t wanna look like a poofter… so I’m dancing with my tough mates instead!”
🙂
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astyages, your “hermeneutics” would make Levi-Strauss proud!
Thank you.
A few days ago a friend pointed me in the direction of some Mud film clips from 1974.
I haven’t stopped laughing!!!
Cheers,
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Not quite sure what you mean by ‘Mud’ movies, JG… but would appreciate a link if you still have it somewhere…
🙂
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Astyages, here it is….somewhere around the 2.00 minute mark..
You have been warned…;)
I have just dropped about 47,000 comments on Cassidy’s article. I hope at least 2 or 3 make it.
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ooops, here it is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fPyrbDMTkU
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Oh… THAT ‘Mud’… I remember Mud… I wish I didn’t, but I do…
🙂
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hahaha
ahahaaa
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ahahh
hhahh
hhaa
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JG, Good afternoon to you. Just woken up from working last night. When I was a boy I shared a room with my older brother who repetitively played John Mayall, Paul Butterfield, Jimi Hendrix and Cream. What he didn’t realise that he taught me about the blues. Later when I learnt the guitar myself I developed a passion for the blues to my surprise. My teacher at the time wasn’t so surprised and he told me that he always thought of me as a blues player. I guess one of my favourite blues tracks came from this band.
Led Zeppelin – Since I’ve Been Loving You (Live)
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Simply beautiful, Gordon.
Although I have a distinct fancy for the faster, rockier blues – this is certainly glorious stuff.
I have been listening to these gems all day – what a delight!
Ah Gordon, I have found myself returning to the stereo all afternoon, casting my mind back and just slightly, ever so slightly, dancin’ my way through the day!
I shall end on a high note for me – it was my first introduction to the ……. brittle cuts of the Telecaster, a la Mike Bloomfield – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kog-w8VTzdI
Cheers,
Oh, any idea what that dancing is on that stones clip i posted earlier? The one from the 1969 Hyde park concert?
Bob Dylan – Maggies Farm
😉
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Good stuff JG. Bloomfield is one of the greats. Mayall’s It’s a Hard Road is also one of my favourites.
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Yes I have a vague idea what Mick was doing but kiddies may be watching 🙂
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hahhaha, not Mick.
those Bikie Rockers and their graceful shoulder dance at 5.40-5.55
Give yourself a laugh!
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Just answered your question on the next thread up JG…
🙂
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Just can’t see this getting up
Austin Fartarse – Fricassee Giddafi
Look Austin, you are going to struggle to make 100 comments whereas a wanker like Peter Reith makes a 100 comments without uttering a word. Have you ever thought about that? I mean you are less than a wanker, what does that actually make you?
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You cannot hope
to bribe or twist (thank god) the
Britsh journalist
But, seeing what
the man will do
unbribed, there’s
no occasion to
Humber Wolfe
Submitted, but censored by the mods.
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Not a single article on The Dwumb, about NATO’s success in Libya. Just lots of foolish articles about………………………………….
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Four & twenty finches, baked in a pie.
.
The king was in his counting house,
Counting out his money;
The queen was in the parlour,
Eating bread and honey.
POSTED by Clive Forefinger.
Rather good I thought.
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On Annabel’s article…If’n it gets up 🙂
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Here,s a reply to the good Lord Funston
Your Worship,
Do you read The Left Wing Radical Workers Blues Unionists Hardship Anti Global Warming Gay Marriage Whales Rights Times?
No? Then on your bike squire.
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I read everything, until I’m either bored, usually because it’s balderdash, or entranced, because it’s stimulating.
OK, strictly speaking, you could take issue with me and say, ‘Harumph, what’s stimulating to you, is absolute rubbish, because you (I) don’t confirm to our paradigms.’
However, we’re all different and part of life’s patina. Even you 🙂
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Just a little correction here. As I am editing, prior to walking the dogs… CONFORM, above.
Oh OH Rufus Thomas remember… God I’m on form today.
Well If’n I don’t accolade myself, youse lefties won’t. Youse are too busy naval gazing 😉
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Well said Your Worship 🙂
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Let me give it a rip Funston,
Your incredible!
How’s that?
Did it hit those heady heights of approbation?
Was it a….ticklish tribute?
A bountiful benediction?
A homme homage?
You set ’em up,
and I’ll try and knock ’em down!!
By the way, received an email from a Monique Ross at the Drum today.
She was………………asking questions.
Well, it was A question.
But a question nontheless!
Happened to anyone here before?
I was most surprised.
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Not I sir.
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No, not from Monique, J.G.
Was it about her thesis?
I usually get words to the effect, “sorry, it’s the policy of the ABC not to help lefties like you.”
Asking you for a date? A buck?
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An homme, surely J.G.
Yes, bountiful is nice. Manis.
Ffunston, get’s begging letters from The ABC. They might stop now after he gave them a serve about Gillards effrontery. Wretched woman. She prostrates herself in front of Brown, fondles Sheik’s burnooses, but can’t even greet the Queen without appearing foolish. The frump from down-under.
No wonder the country is going to the dogs.
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JG , I don’t expect you to answer my question, but I’ll ask it anyhow;
‘Did they ask you to contribute (to write articles) to the Drum?’
I know you often say that you are curious, but so are we 🙂
That’s what make us Piglets…
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Ah I see,
Well it was a trifling matter really.
I had written a short spray directed at the Mods for engaging in some tomfoolery with my posts – in particular, printing them twice.
It had happened two days in a row and i thought it bad form.
Anyway, i expressed my displeasure and before the hour was up there she was, on my email, asking me what the problem was and how she could fix it.
I mentioned Gin and some vintage frocks, which I hear she is partial to…..I said I knew a coupla likely lads – Ato, Gordo and Funno and if she had any girlfriends up for a night of rumination, meditation and subjugation, of word-play, horse-play and fore-play, of grand pomposity and unbridled tom-foolery, of epoch-making buffoonery…..of electric swaying hips and of pulsing light lit lips…..then we’re your guys!!!
I’m waiting on a reply.
She was keen until she heard that Funston was coming.
It is Friday evening and I am onto my third. I drink it with Soda or Squash and enjoyed it immensely with cigarettes.
Alas the tobacco is but a memory.
Waiting on friends now…an evening of conversation and laughter.
I hope the same for you all.
P.S. I’ll keep you informed on that Monique Ross thing.
Any minute now…….any minute……..
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I just wanna dance the night away
With senoritas who can sway
Right now tomorrow’s lookin’ bright
Just like the sunny mornin’ light
The Mavericks.
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JG, thanks for your kindly reply…
When Gez used write stories for UL, he dealt with a very nice girl, can’t remember her name (gez does) she was always very prompt and polite with her replies.
The nicest thing she ever said was that we, Gez and I, were role models for her…what an honour…they used have some nice ones there, let’s hope MR is OK as well 🙂
PS. You should send some articles to them…they need some new blood over there…
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Oh no Helvi, I would never do that. 🙂
I enjoy the conversation and the argument, that’s all.
My interests are more in the Humanities…….and as we can see there are only about 4 or 5 people that actually read anything to do with the Arts……going by the comments anyway.
Enjoy the weekend.
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You are welcome to write something here. Anything. A ditty, a story, an anecdote..an opinion?
A limerick? A Poem?
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VL, you are our Limerick bloke….let them out for all to see…
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Just woken up and started reading some of J.G.Coles replies on the Drum, poetry in motion, the guy is a master. I like.
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Gordon, thank you for your kind( and undeserved) words.
Yes, it was quite a tussle. Some posts were culled, and one was published twice?!?!?
At least we were given the opportunity to engage.
And that is enough.
What I would have liked is for you, and Helvi, and some others to have joined the fray; to roll up your shirtsleeves and warm-up before………Funston made an appearance!
Ah, he coulda been a contender!
Perhaps his lettuce were calling him.
Thanks again,
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JG, Hung is right, your posts were pure poetry…’one lone tumble weed…’and more, I was pleased they are publishing those gems.
We have had visitors staying here, which is very nice, but makes it hard to spend time on the net…I stole time to read some but had no chance to reply…(first ones out today)
I’m also pleased that you have complained about the too harsh culling on the Drum. The more of us do it ,the better..
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Thanks JG, Some of my posts don’t get up even if they are politically correct. I will be out there supporting you at The Drum. Keep it up. Your incredibly clever way of counter argument with some more than subtle undertones of authority is simply stunning. 🙂
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Have you two, Gordon and JG, replied to Maurice Newman’s speech on The Drum? I noticed Atomou’s post.
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Who?
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Once again Gordon you flatter me unnecessarily 🙂
Thank you. I look forward to having some confederates in addressing what seems to be a never-ending display of Conservative emptyheadedness.
To Helvi, thank you to you too.
I did post on the Newman article actually and expect to to be up.
I was heaping an mouthful of praise on atomou’s post. It was, by far and away, the single most perfect sentence i have read in quite some time – effortless, lucid, poignant and…..perfect. There was a symmetry to that single sentence that left me speechless.
He managed in one crisp line to acquaint us all with both problem AND solution.
Quite remarkable.
If you are reading atomou – εβίβα!!
If i wore a cap I would doff it!
Anyway, to you Gordon and Helvi both, thanks again for your encouraging words.
And to you Funston: thank you for such a well considered and perceptive comment. Keep ’em comin’! 😉
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εβίβα!! to you too, JG but I can’t remember a thing! Hardly ever go back to check what’s happened to my verbally crumbled extrications! Can’t find the article even! Can someone put a link, please?
But many thanks!
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Atto, go to The Drum side, it’s there under Top Reads, there are about 27 replies.
Last time when Marc Scott had his speech there , they whisked it away after 12 or so replies, my critical post was not published.
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Much thanks, H!
Just read it! Yeah, I agree with JG… I think it’s bloody… succinct!
Hahaha! 🙂
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I missed all this stuff, bugger it.
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No you haven’t Vivie! Not yet, anyhooo. Click here:
http://abc.com.au/news/2011-10-20/newman-pluralists-partisans-public-discourse/3580890
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Just read the opening para – anyone applauding Gerard and Anne is a big worry. Dare I read on.
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How bloody awful. Newman can get stuffed. Let’s hope Labor appoints a good and proper chairman – perhaps Eva Cox or Germaine Greer would be a good start.
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Eva Cox would be brilliant, Vivie. Germaine is a bit flighty these days. Heart in the right place but a bit tentative when it actually comes to making decisions. Cox is solid and strong, in thought and determination.
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Ah …… just had a brain wave thingy. How about you and I take it week about to Chair the ABC
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Agree, Eva Cox is rather impressive…Germaime has become better with age, a little nicer or softer, but she would not be the right one in my books either
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I’d love it if you were there, too, Vivie but I’m afraid I’m far too much of a “lefty,” far too indignant and totally basking in the brilliant light of my impenitence for an old aunt like Mz ABC!
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I’m in agreement. You should both be there. The blind, leading the blind.
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Laddie, there are those who are blind and then there are those who are walking around with eyes wide shut! Eyes and ears dead shut!
I’m no pointin no finger at no one but.
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Nah, two perfect lefties with hearts of gold, full of empathy and love, we’d have the Board eating out of our hands and department heads swooning in no time.
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They wouldn’t be swooning over my beauty, Vivie, I can assure you of that!
Your gorgousness, on the other hand…
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They would be swooning at the beauty of our minds, Ato – our minds.
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Yes! You’re all incredible 🙂
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Your Worship,
It is really good that you stick it up all us lefties. Don’t change otherwise who is going to give the other side of the story besides Voice. There is always two sides to everything. At the end of the day it’s only politics. I need to hear your point of view otherwise I’m not balanced. Agreeing with what you say though is a totally different concept 🙂
Your humble servant
Hung
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Happy belated Birthday Wishes to you, Lord Funston, you look better and better as the years pile up 🙂
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Terima kasih, Helvi… You have retained your European felicitationess, I see. Us Northern Hemisphericalers are full of good will and mannerly customs 😉
Terima kasih banyak 🙂
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LOL!
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Apa kabar, Tuan Lord Runston?
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Baik. Terima Kasi. Banyak bagus.
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Oh, deary me!
Rowan’s article’s got everyone bum boozled! Particularly the mods.
First they publish my second post. Then they remove the second post and publish the first one. Then they remove both and publish a third one. Then they remove the third one and publish only the second one!!! But the other ones were much, much funnier!
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Now the fourth one is published but third and first have gone!
Moderator, thy mind runs on curious circuits!
As Mercutio said to Romeo, “The ship, sir, the slip; can you not conceive?”
Nope!
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Good God atomou! And here I was thinking that such absurdities only belonged in the world of Carroll.
Let me add to that – not one of my longer posts made it through. Several of the shorter quips did. 4 of the 5 were truncated!
haha
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Let me quote from Alice:
The King, “Begin at the beginning and go on till you come to the end: then stop.”
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JG, the Mods are forcing you to learn the art of tweeting. See, they don’t have enough space for long stories….
I can’t use that excuse as my posts have always been shortish…
Ato, I have left you a recipe for yogurt making on your food blog, there are no limits to my talents.
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Good morning Helvi – “tweeting” you say?
Not for me Helvi 🙂
It takes me 12 paragraphs just to warm up!
It is a rainy morn here……just wondering how many things I can cancel today and spend the day……tinkering.
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You sound like a man after my own heart, JG… I’ve often said that it takes me 500 words just to say ‘G’day’!
😉
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Emmjay responded to Guy Rundle’s piece criticising Peter Craven’s defence of Aust Lit Review – thusly:
IMHO ALR was about as compelling as gorgonzola left in the glovebox of a bentley for two weeks over summer. This comment was first published at Crikey.
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Perhaps by using a new Pseud – Dirk Koff – this one got up – but it looked pretty lonely when I checked !
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