The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.
NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.
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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off. Like a sack of prawn heads in the sun. Something had to be done.
Moderation was taking forever. Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged. When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !
So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit. And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.
As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire. And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.
So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog. Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity. Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.
And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments. Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.
Cheers,
Emm.
Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
Can’t see my homophobic comment getting up but here goes, sung to the tune by Devo, called Whip it
crack that lick
give the past the slip
step on a crack
break your momma’s back
when a problem comes along
you must lick it
before the cream sits out too long
you must lick it
when something’s going wrong
you must lick it
now lick it
into shape
shape it up
get straight
go forward
move ahead
try to detect it
it’s not too late
to lick it
lick it good
when a good time turns around
you must lick it
you will never live it down
unless you lick it
no one gets away
until they lick it
i say lick it
lick it good
i say lick it
lick it good
crack that lick
give the past the slip
step on a crack
break your momma’s back
when a problem comes along
you must lick it
before the cream sits out too long
you must lick it
when something’s going wrong
you must lick it
now lick it
into shape
shape it up
get straight
go forward
move ahead
try to detect it
it’s not too late
to lick it
into shape
shape it up
get straight
go forward
move ahead
try to detect it
it’s not too late
to lick it
lick it good
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I just saw a post by Totem Poles on Brull’s blog, I blinked my eyes and it was gone…I’m stunned…..why the disappearance?
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Is it just me or has the Drum become boring.
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Yes it has, Viv. Climate Change, boat people , gay marriage and some religion bashing thrown in. Some young students writing about their Twitter world…
Also the same contributors keep popping up; nothing ever about literature, art,social issues, humour, language…
It all got to be divisive, them and us, in the past I discussed gardening or preschools with Liberals and Labor…now itsall fighting….
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VL, I said hi to Feet Slipper on the porn blog…that subject keeps coming up…
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Stay on your………………………………
………………………………………………..???………………………………………
And don’t slip up!
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Viv, I don’t visit it much due to the repetition of topics, the IPA and the very selective moderation.
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I’ve just written this in Unleashed ..The Drum. And it applies here too. (It may not get up, as it is critical of the new Drum!
Just do your best. People don’t always communicate properly. What I see as a joke, is often, NOT appreciated by others: and vice versa.
All our styles are different…Eclectic.
The major problem, in my view, is that the facts are often hampered by literary skill inadequacy.
Academics may well specialise in a subject; however be unable to communicate–so the impact is lost. And indeed sometimes distorted by the use of incorrect euphuism and vocabulary.
A good journalist uses (to the best of his/her endeavour) reliable and truthful sources and is able to write in a more engaging manner.
Anyone with a modicum of intelligence, discerns this–and distinguishes.
Posters in here are split between, arguers who don’t have much knowledge and simply mouth off, “down with The IPA”; and professional debaters; that are solicitors/barristers outside these roads.
As Thomas Mann wrote: ‘A writer is somebody for whom writing is more difficult than it is for others.’
One needs time to compose–and this medium (in its current format) is not conducive.
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Actually: only after eclectic!
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Well put. Words are limited to being understood by others which becomes tricky. ( even at the best of times)
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That is all well and good but it seems to miss the punchline. The opening sentence should have the guts of your point in it and it doesn’t.
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Well!–I started with: “”The Major Problem, in my view IS.””
One couldn’t get more definitive. One couldn’t herald ones intention, more. One couldn’t headline more; one couldn’t be more succinct. And one could n’t
t be more attention getting: which is the intention of a headline.
You have a go?
Go-on. Penny for them !
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I didn’t realise the beginning was not the beginning VL. Perhaps putting it in quotes would help. (Thought it began with ‘Just do your best’.)
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Just been moving our BBQ: a stainless steel monster. We bought it about 8 years ago: it’s like a Tardis.
We don’t need such a monolithic beast now that the kids are only visitors.It seems carved from one piece of steel. It took brother-in-law and nephew to relocate it from on garden to the other.
It seems in good nick. If memory serves me well, I had it cleaned and serviced prior to moving house–so, uncobwebbed, it will be equal to The Tardis.
It’s a beefeater, badged as Kleenmaid, who went bust. Very expensive, however, up to sataying, fish-cooking, roasting and sautéing.
Watch this space 🙂
Oh!! and BTW, stop bickering. More may come into the fold !!
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Those with the stain-less steel burners last forever. Beware of Greek sausages (or the Dutch Bratwursts). though.
I have just marinated some chicken thighs with lemon juice, garlic and Bombay curry paste. Now for sliced red capsicums with sliced spuds and the lot will be on the barbie in about 2 hrs time.
Anyone for a dolmade and a red?
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They won’t shut up VL.
So are you putting that beast of a BBQ back into running order? Did you move it further away from the house or what.
I’m about to stuff leg of lamb with loads of garlic an squeeze lots of lemons. Family coming for dinner.
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Now that Hung, Asty and Helvi have gone, who else would you like to chase away Ato?
I noticed you did not come up with anything of substance that Helvi had done to you warranting your attack on her.
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Why not ditch the petty back-biting? You might have some consideration of Hung and Asty and let them sort out any issues they may or indeed may not have with atomou themselves, rather than trying to use them.
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In future Voice, fight your own battle, instead of dragging others into it. You started this one. (as usual)
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Sounds more like Helvi than gerard. Once again I propose ditching the back-biting (battle) and moving forward.
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No, Gez, you and H started this type of tag-team wrestling!
You’re doing it now! G, the defender! H, the defender!
You say crap about someone, you get told you’re saying crap and H pops up from the sides and says you’re an angel!
Then she says some crap about someone else, she gets told she says crap and you pop up from the sides to say she’s an angel!
It’s bloody sickening bullshit! Unworthy of a society of intelligent adults!
I say it again: Grow up!
Both, you and H have my email. So do asty and Hung. If they had anything to tell me they could have done so directly. They did not.
I have no idea why asty would have anything to be angry with me about. I wrote an essay about translating. A few years ago, we had sent many emails to each other discussing the issue. There was never a hint back then that he felt that I had nothing but his own good in mind. He had asked me questions and I had answered them. He had asked me to read over two of his works and I have done so with patience and goodwill and I have pointed out my concerns. Never have I received a note from him complaining I was wrong about anything. He had asked me to link my blog to his. I did that.
It is still my concern that it is YOU who are creating this fissure between us and not himself.
As for Hung. He knows full well how I feel about him. We had emails exchanged many times, about highly intimate things. Why is it YOU are coming out squirting piss all over the floor? He is absolutely free to send me an email and discuss whatever he likes with me, just as he has done before. Nothing but nothing is stopping him. Except, perhaps you two!
I repeat, both, Hung and asty have my email. They could tell me what they want and why they want it. If they, or anyone else, for that matter, tell me to piss off, then I’ll discuss that option with them also. You and H, however, have no right to tell me to do thatf -as did H, a couple of years back, both here and on UL. Perhaps selective dementia has removed that little bit of history from her mind.
Finally, if both asty and Hung think that it would be better for them, for their health or for any other reason, to stay away from this place, then neither you nor I and certainly not your dear tag-team partner H, should try and drag them back into it. They know what’s best for them, more so than you do. You and I, know shit all!
You want to have your own Dear Dorothy Dix blog, go ahead and start one up. I didn’t think this was it.
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Gerard, you are (rightly, or wrongly) perpetuating this.
Let it blow over.
If Helvi ect, want to join in– they can.
Let’s get back to business. Baik ?
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I thought this subject was closed yesterday. Can we all get back to normal please. Something must have gone completely over my head as I don’t understand half of this. I love you all, even VL (and I’m not pulling your leg).
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I always move forward and will, but take notice of Ato’s inability to back up his abuse to Helvi with factual harm or slight directed at him (Ato) by Helvi. I can handle his abuse but feel that Helvi has been treated less than fair. Of course I defend my life long partner! She, much, much more than anyones always stands up for the underdog, props up everyone and generally is full of spreading cheer and fairness.
When asked for substantiation, Ato shrivels and hides under the pompous indignant Greek male, what a farcical situation.
Perhaps it was the Hung’s Lesbian tag that did it ,but who would have thought that the descendant and original inventor of ‘Lesbian’ could possibly ever feel chagrined by it anymore than being called a mere ‘hetero’ now-a-days? If it helps you Ato, you can call me a lesbian.
Grow up yourself Ato. Try and do a refresher on Greek mythology and stick to biscuits for a while..
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And here I was thinking that Greeks were an Oosterman approved nationality. Was that generalised racist abuse, or is atomou hiding under a particular pompous indignant Greek male of whom I am unaware?
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Voice, please change the subject. I’m getting tinnitus! You are throwing fuel on the fire.
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Call you a Lesbian? Dignify your idiocy to that extent? Insult the good name of the first woman and one of the most powerful poets, Sappho? Insult the gorgeous island Lesbos? Insult the true meaning of the word, “lesbian?”
Give over Gez!
I’ve no idea what you’re referring to in any case. Did H call me a “lesbian?” Didn’t see that one. I would have taken it as a compliment, though, for what it’s worth, I must confess, I wasn’t its “original inventor!”
Why the hell do you need to defend her? Of what? Words? I find her quite the loquacious sort, myself. Not short of a word or two, most of which drip with venom barely camouflaged with a thin patina of icing. Not short of words at all, your H. In fact she gets out here and “defends” you! With words! Lots of them!
Pompous Greek male?
Oh, dear Gez! Were you keeping this view of me in your dear little heart all this time? How frustrating it must have been for you! How… politic of you not to mention it before! I am truly touched by your self control, Gez. A true Spartan!
No, mate! H’s insults and serpentine language is written on every notice board of this pub. Look around you. You’ll find it. No need for a Sherlock magnifying glass. Personally, I don’t have the time for such crap!
(Hold on a minute! I must stop Mrs Ato from laughing… really darling, he’s been serious. He’s in pain! No, stop it!)
But you did land a blow there, Gez with your final sentence! Refresher course in mythology! Shit that hurts! You’ve been chasing Googles everywhere?
Love my kourabiethes. You, of course, would know nothing about these delicious crescents.
Refresher course in mythology! Shit that hurts!
You wanna discuss this subject?
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Fair enough VL. 🙂
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Sorry. Throwing fuel on the fire, is English, for ‘shit stirring’! 😉
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Thankyou for the translation VL.
Sorry. That’s English for I already knew that, you fuel upon fire thrower! 🙂
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Throwing fuel on a fire is worse than shit stirring.
Now, stop it everyone – you’ll all go blind!
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No worries about a fire, Vivie!
My house is solidly built! Fireproof, earthquake proof, lie proof… The mangy wolf outside can shout all it wants!
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Ato,
Let brevety not be your strongest point. Still not a single line of anything offensive directed by Helvi to you Ato? Perhaps there is none? Perhaps? Have you got the guts to admit this?
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Who’s “brevety?”
Gez, I’ve sent you a hat. You can either wear it or use it as a nappy to wipe your bum with but I won’t be your valet or your nurse.
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Where is the Greek philosopher now? Sorry, you are the Andrew Bolt of the Pig’s Arms. Hung at least says sorry and is perhaps often on the piss. Where is your excuse?
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Seems like too many patrons of the PA got out of bed on the wrong side or had a shit night’s sleep the night before.
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That was yesterday, Viv…Hopefully!
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Sometimes I eat too many kourabiethes before I go to bed,Vivie. Gives me nighmares through the night.
🙂
xoxo
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Nightmares..
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You should not eat before you go to bed Ato. Frankly, one’s tummy needs four hour’s between evening meal and hitting the sack. Ouzo is okay though.
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four hour’s rest…
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One hour’s rest; in between shenanigans is optimal.
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I know, Vivie but some times I’m up talking with people in the UK in the middle of the night, so I tend to… bite into things!
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It’s actually “four hours’ rest” Vivie… if you MUST know!
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Genitive (Possessive) Plural! If you MUST know!
Otherwise, make a nappy out of it… the possessive I mean!
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I know it is four hours’ rest – just seeing if anyone was alert. Of course for VL, seems it is just one hour’s rest (that was a good joke VL).
Ato – you must have noticed that hardly anyone seems to know where to place the apostrophe and more often than not they bung one in just in case.
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I know, Vivie, I know and it hurts soooooo much seeing all these lovely apostrophes going astray! Stray apostrophes disturb me. Like unloved children. Street kids. Very indecorous! Wrong even!
Why doesn’t anyone care about the apostrophes? Or the Genitives?
Cruel, cruel world!
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On a similar topic, I had a proofreading job on a soon to be published annual report. I’ve noticed the capital letter being randomly allocated to words in the middle of sentences. Bizzare but true. Actually, if you saw the stuff I see you would be tearing out the remainder of your hair. Sometimes it makes you question your own sanity.
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Well, don’t let my eyes fall upon it, Vivie! I’m getting closer and closer in cephalic looks to Homer (Simpson that is) every day!
Proofreading is such a bugger of a job! You can go over (particularly your own stuff) a dozen times and still not see the most glaring typo! You need to use about a dozen different proof readers…
I’m telling ya, (I have the letters of thanks from them to prove it!) I have found two (count them, two) mistakes in the Oxford Dic. (the 20vol one)!
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Of course, one can’t properly proofread one’s own work. I get an editor I know well to check my stuff before it goes to print. I’ll let you in on one of my pet horrors – the use of the word ‘fulsome’. Never used correctly. I’ve heard politicians say it and only once by total accident was he correct (in my Labor eyes).
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Love fulsome! Try to get to that stage every night… or is that ouzosome? Confuse the two when I reach that stage.
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Hello all, I’ve had a great day out at the cricket on the last day of my holidays and returned to find all hell has broken loose here.
For what its worth carm down everyone.
The last thing I want to see here and I’m sure for all of you is for this place to fall apart, yet at times over the last few months from my point of view, thats what it looks like. I’ve gone back and had a look at some of the old posts and the way everyone treated one another. Respect, robust debate but nearly always civil. I note a couple of names madeleine and granny wonder where the’ve gone (yes I know they’ve been gone for a while).
Of late Waz is somewhere incognito and says he’s back at the end of the month, I hope he returns. I recall in the very early days of Unleased, the days when the mods left everyone alone, posts ambled on for days and the debates were fun and robust. Waz answered one of my posts on a particular debate was fairly hostile.Waz and I came from different points of view, but we respected each others comments. I might add that we weren’t hostile to one another. And I don’t think we ever have been.
I suppose my point is the number of us that visit here is not that big. Should any of us choose to move on the vitality of the site diminishes just a bit.
Could I suggest that last year has passed and perhaps we all could leave those hostilites over the past few months, there. It’s a new year, maybe a time to start anew an recapture that mutual respect that everyone had for one another. There is nothing wrong with robust debate but maybe and I speak generally here, the abuse has a place somewhere else apart from here.
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Later than I’m usually awake.
I just read they’ve found the rare mineral tranquillityite in Australia; previously only known in moon rocks. Not sure exactly where it was found, but doubt it was the PA carpark.
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Got it, Voice!
Granny had shoved in the No2 Petty Cash tin, behind the billiard cue case and she’d forgotten all about it. Didn’t think we needed it, silly girl!
Anyhow, it’s here. I’ve put it out on the display cabinet in the main bar, with the sign “Tranquillityite Rock. Bow to it once and your bowels disentangle. Bow twice and run for the loo!”
It’s cool!
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I am with JG Cole and I quote him: I read Hung’s comment as a gag; a cheeky roll call fashioned by a man in chipper spirits. Unquote.
I am totally flabbergasted by Ato’s attack on Helvi. What has she done to deserve the tag of ‘screech blue murder’? Show us where she has done anything to you, Ato? If there is one person totally fair and giving praise or critique equally to all and sundry it is Helvi.
I would have thought that Hung”s humour by now is so well accepted that we all take it as a kind of our very own ‘Angry Boy” Pig’s version. I wear the ‘European racist’ tag with pride. How else could it be taken, coming from another European?
Ato, you are the expert on Aristotelian wisdom, surely, you above all could easily have survived anything that Hung throws at the P/Arms and us.
A different matter all together was the pompous and totally unwarranted attack on Asty’s Greek translations/ interpretations and I fully understand his chagrin when being told his work wasn’t up to scratch ” get over it, you are still young, start again”, you told him. How utterly humiliating that was.
Again Ato, you owe an explanation of where Helvi has done anything to you, warranting your rave against her…What has she done to you?
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Nah, can’t be bothered with explanations on explanations on things done in the past, Gez!
If you knew anything about translating -anything at all- you’d have no probs with what I’ve said to Asty about it, the upshot of which is, that if you take something you think is a translation to a publisher, he’d ask you, if indeed you had a translation of the original in your hand, or that you’ve done a “version.” The publisher would need to know that s/he is not going to get sued. It’s common knowledge and my many years in the field told me to be very careful with the label I attach to my work. What experience do you have on this field?
I said what I said to asty for asty’s sake and for the sake of the conversation we had on the topic. If asty wanted to go on with the discussion he could have -either here or privately. He has my address and we’ve exchanged many a fond email on the topic a while back. I understand the dreadfully miserable situation he finds himself in, vis a vis his foot and all the crap luck he had to deal with of late. But that’s another issue altogether.
What’s with the allusion to Aristotle? What’s he got to do with what Hung was doing the last couple of months? Hung had, for some reason or other, stepped out of his usual delightful self and took on the role of an arsehole. It doesn’t suit him at all and if I were he, I’d be speaking to my agent, demanding he give me another.
You are free to think of Hung as you see fit. Don’t be too shocked though to find that there might well be others around that got quite hurt by his performance. Not me, personally but a number of others, and even more importantly, the pub itself.
Wearing the label “European racist” with pride, I feel declares something quite antisocial about you. I abhor Chauvinism of any kind and most definitely the ethnic and religious kind. Gender and sexual chauvinism also leave me quite cold.
OK?
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Viv,have a happy new year and I’ll catch up with you , Alge, Big M, Hung, Mr Cole and Funston on the Drum , maybe :), and of course with Emmjay 🙂
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…sorry Asty, and you of course…you have not been around much, that’s why the slip.
Best wishes to Lehan and Sanshoe too.
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You’ve left out Voice & atomou?
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You left out Emmjay and Warrigal
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Mulga and Miowarra
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Nancy and Prancy, anyone else?
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Hung, I did not leave Emmjay out, Warrigal has left US.
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Warrigal will be back come Feb and yes I am sorry you did say Emmjay
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Gawd, this is the last time I will be at the Pigs Arms, you are such a sensitive lot, heaven help any one that ever says any thing about you again
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Just say it in a classy way, Hungsie!
Sort of like this:
Mesdames et messieurs, garçons et filles, homosexuels et hétérosexuels, vous pénétrer!
Or even just, up yours!
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Oh, well shit!
Might as well join the mud wrestle!
H and G, you VERY often act like worse than jerks! Too bloody often! Unless you’re both praised sky high, you’ll get on your insult podium and disparage and mock everyone else!
It’s the sort of bullshit that kids throw at one another in the primary school sandpit. It’s an extraordinary silly thing: predictable like kids are predictable. Gez says something stupid, someone tells him he just said something stupid and out comes the “defender” H, to screech blue murder!
Grow up, you two!
Bloody well grow up!
Hung, for the last two weeks at the very least you’ve been nothing short of an arsehole!
You chuck insults at everyone and then you say, “Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I didn’t mean to insult you!” Shit man! We all know you’re hurting but you are also an arsehole and if you could separate the one from the other we’d have a bloody beaut, very funny writer who can keep us reading and drinking at this pub. You’ve screwed it man, thoroughly. I have complained to Mike because this is not the pub I’ve joined any more and this is not the sort of crap I need to indulge in.
It was only a couple of months ago you were telling us all -and me by direct email that both H and G were a “pair of European racists. Fuck me!” Suddenly they’re not? What on earth has changed?
No one should have to tell you ff off! Either behave or go to bed or go to another pub!
I don’t know if you noticed but I DO put quite a bit of effort into my writing, not for my own sake but for the sake of the pub. I don’t know know if anyone reads the stuff but I do it anyhow, hoping that it will increase the pub’s business and encourage other bypassers to enter. I’ve no wish to continue putting in this effort if all we’re going to get is a pas de deux from the
Oosters and a “hold-my’dick” from you!
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What are you talking about? I have said no such thing. You are weak to attack me like this, yes all Europeans are racist and the sooner you recognise this the better. Have you never been an arsehole? Have you never been passionate? No Sir you cannot deny this and for you to propagate this filth is offensive.
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Don’t do this to yourself, Mark!
You’ve said what you’ve said loudly, both here and to me personally. I could post your emails if you like. No skin off my nose but I would love you to step out of this pugilistic, arseholey mood and get back to where you were a couple of months ago.
Of course I’m an arsehole. We all are to some extend but we should try and be less so; and less so publicly and even less so, so vociferously.
I’m passionate about almost everything I think and do. Wouldn’t be bothered thinking about it or doing it otherwise.
“all Europeans are racists?” And this is not a racist comment? Or is it mitigated in some way because it is so inclusive?
The point I’m making is, stop being an arsehole so persistently and so perpetually. Give it a rest occasionally. That’s all I’m trying to say.
Or I promise you, I’ll send fucking Zeus after you!
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Post them then ato, and Zeus will come looking for you. you lowlife, you were the only one I trusted, my life, my liege however if you want to betray me, go ahead, I die, I die a noble man with my head held high, I will not be blackmailed
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Voice, Julian,
He said fucking, double standard
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It’s not what you say, Hungsie it’s how you say it; and you don’t say “fuck” as classily as I do!
No, I won’t publish your emails.
Not blackmailing anyone, mate but I am wondering what the fuck is going on with you.
We screw up, we are contrite, we repent and move on. And don’t do it again!
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George, Okay, ewe is my friend, nothing going on, I’m just surprised that my quip about the PA to JG has caused so much furore, makes me think I shouldn’t say anything any more, you know, marked man, you said fuck, I get lambasted for the same, I’m now a target
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I am not inconsistent and I want an answer! Soon, please.
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Viviene, I simply meant you fade in and out of the Arms. You are passionate about food, politics and your tits.
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Then that is okay. I have all this unpaid work I do Hung and I knock off at about 5 pm most days. So I am consistently not at the Arms of an evening when a lot of interesting stuff happens.
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Voice, I have always complained about anyone calling anybody names, here or on the Drum. You called Gerard a ‘jerk’ on UL, someone must have called the Mods as your post was deleted…you have often called people idiots or dumb…what you sow you’ll reap…
Hung is suffering from depression, what is your excuse for calling people names and belittling them?
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Hi Helvi, I haven’t noticed any posts on Drum/Unleased by Gerard recently. Whatever is going on, I seem to be missing all the juicy bits.
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Classy Helvi. Not. Nice try with the “your post was deleted”.
I remember atomou saying that one of your snide comments was disappointing. I’m not disappointed because a sideways attack by you under cover of defending Hung was a given. Shame on you.
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You take offence being called Lesbian by Hung ,yet you are quite happy to tell us us that ‘gez does not remember an erect penis’ , later when I politely ask if YOU can REMEMBER one ( 🙂 smilies added l), then the ‘joke’ is not so funny for you anymore…….
Gez did not even read your post, but someone, young or old or middle-aged might have problems with non-erect penises….as some seem to have by being called ‘Lesbian”.
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Classy misquote Helvi. Although admittedly not far off the original, and you can’t be expected to have memorised it exactly, funny how it was altered to sound worse than it was rather than better, and taken completely out of context.
You do what you do well, but shame on you for doing it.
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Voice, I’m never interested in having the last word that you always strive for…it all yours, be as cutting as you like…I have said what needed to be said on behalve of Hung and Gez , and anyone fighting for a fair deal for asylum seekers, or anyone who dares to criticise Oz, and to think that Norway is a pretty clever country.
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No classier or less transparent IMO. Classic for the genre.
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Gee Voice is that all you can come up with?
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My reply to Totem, was censored by the guillotine:
Well, I don’t dispute facts. And if I was given the chance in here, I would expound on them. I would include the fact that although Hussein was tolerated by The West, you are conflating that tolerance with ‘reasonable interference’. After he invaded Kuwait, there was really a ‘war footing’ created.
As far as his home atrocities go, only North Korea bears comparison. With it’s killing and incarceration (with starvation)of dissenters (not dissidents, they never get that far).
I am always amazed at the left’s penchant for keeping the blood letting status quo intact, but whining when remediation is activated.
The Baat regime had blood on it’s hands and here was an opportunity to cahnge that balance.
I have figures for Hussein’s crimes, but not enogh blogging space.
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Funston, the Right have absoluety NO moral ground here. None.
Your euphemism “tolerated” is simply awful……and by its inclusion does much to discredit and indict.
I conflate nothing.
It is my contention that Saddam was given a purposefully ambiguous signal regarding Kuwait. They had been friends after all…..for so many years…..if the Americans, who would have known such things, happened to look out of the window when asked for their dispensation….well, who was Saddam to say “Boo” to his most formidable sponsor?
Saddam was duped.
And in a flash the Americans had their rationale for a massive military presence in the Middle East.
One they have kept up to this day.
So for the Right apologists to say NOW, that they are outraged, hand on heart, pass me the handercheif…woe betide those freedom fighters and Kurds and Marsh Arabs and intellectuals and democtaric fighters and……anyone else who prersented an obstacle to Saddam’s muscle flexing, ably spotted by a genial and most acommodating America, simply has the rank odour of a rancid cesspit about it.
It is a rationale.
It is a lie.
The Left has many problems – but on the Saddam issue its hands are without the awful, tattooed stain that ink those of the Right.
Saddam was killing his own before Kuwait, well before.
And yet none, NONE, from the Right raised…….a whimper.
If the American concern for human rights keeps them up at night……if the Right apologists are looking for self-righteous rationale and legitimation then look no further than say, Sudan or Somalia, North Korea or Saudi Arabia or Syria……or 10 others I could name without even blinking.
By your logic Funston I expect the Americans to “take the opportunity” and “change the balance”.
After all….blood is blood, right?
Take me on another point Funston….but not here.
Hypocrisy is an awful mirror.
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Off for a walk. Yes Saddam was murdering everyone and anyone. The marsh arabs, Kurds, Iranians, his own people.
It wasn’t condoned at all.. The chance wasn’t there to intervene. For goodness sake your complaining now that we Did???
What if we had done it then?
Don’t forget the container??
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Funston, you misunderstand me. I’m not complaining that “we” did.
I’m just not buying the Right’s affected morality….NOW.
It would be far more honest just to say…..”look we didn’t give a fuk about Saddam’s victims when we needed him to be our mate”.
That;s all Funston…..that’s all its ever been.
I painted today and am quite tired. 🙂
How are your pavers?
When are the pics coming?
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I’m waiting for a pic gallery to be created.
I did suggest it once. Some companies have Facebook pages. However, I am against that, as it affects the anonymity. Not so much between the original cast, but in case the blog (hopefully) grows.
Thanks for asking about the pavers, We had a Christmas lunch on them. I bought a tent/marquee, from Bunnings and we tied balloons and decorations up on the cross struts. Murphy’s law, that we had the biggest gust of wind: linked to the end of the Northern cyclone, I suppose.There were ten of us.
Do you paint professionally Jaygee–or just as a hobby? I know that you love art and have mentioned artists and works that I am not familiar with. It must be very relaxing and satisfying: as I imagine writing worthy to be.
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I meant to write: as I imagine writing something worthy to be. I really should check my spelling and writing.
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Funston, I too have a Bunnings tent marquee thing!!!!
The children slip ‘n slide under its generous canopy…..and it sits in the far back corner of our yard, collared by greenery…..there is a young lemon, 3 branches straining awfully with the weight of a fistful of fruit….and there is a camilia shooting skywards new growth. It stands as a twin to my daughter, planted the day of her birth 8 and a half years ago. I prune it….reluctantly….foolishly fearful of any symbolic connection 🙂
I paint as a hobby Funston.
I first laid out a canvas over 20 years ago in my parents garage. It was 2am and I was a little drunk. I had spent many years reading and writing about the damn thing and I felt the full presumptuous force of……a passionate novice!!!
I had imagined that the act of painting would enable me to slip thought the portal….
It did.
It has.
And that Siren is never far from my mind.
Exhibiting was never a consideration for me….though it has been an essential factor of my vocational life.
But more on that later…..I imagine.:)
Funston, I read with dismay the goings on of last night here at the Pig’s.
I would care to comment but fear censure due to my status as newcomer.
Let me chance that censure by saying just the one thing.
I read Hung’s comment as a gag; a cheeky roll call fashioned by a man in chipper spirits.
Who else to laugh but with….friends?
Anyway, I shall say no more on the matter except to express my wish that it resolve itself soon….in a manner befitting adults and friends.
Now you,
Tell me something of yourself.
🙂
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Something for me to think on.
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Well……that’s certainly given me much to think on.
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Don’t overdo it 😉
Watched a film about Basquiat, last night. One of his paintings sold for $14m, apparently. I couldn’t see the value.
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You saw correctly.
There is no value.
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The cast was impressive.
Off to walk. 6:48 Gold Coast time. Stupidly!
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Happy New year to you too, Hung.
No, I don’t appreciate your insults to me. Or those to others.
But the web is full of sites with comments like that, and if you want this to be one of them I can’t stop you.
You have the floor. Enjoy.
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What are you talking about?
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Very well. I take particular exception to your lesbian comments about me and your gay boy comments about Julian and related demeaning edits of his posts using your Administrator access. Although I see that the ones relating to Julian have been deleted now. Who by, I don’t know. Was it you?
Hey, the PA is a free world and not one where participation is compulsory. Make of it what you will.
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I have to back Voice up here, Mark. I see no point in abusing people.
I know that you have been under personal pressure, but that is no excuse for rudeness.
There is a difference between sarcasm about political views and blatant abuse with the F word.
I would ‘add’, that any outsider looking in would be extremely, “put off”.
Essentially this part ‘leashed’; is for notes about The Drum. However yesterday you polluted it with You Tube links.
There is a section for that…I actually thought that you created it ? ?
Julian
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VL, we have talked about all kinds of things here besides ABC moderation, plants, cooking, our political stands, about JG Cole’s (and mine) ex-friends…no one has complained about any of it.
Why is it wrong for Hung to put up some music here. Let’s be fair 🙂
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Dear Voice and Julian,
I am sorry that you have taken offense at my comments. This was not my intent. My intent was to have a bit of fun and I see your comments as a bit of an over reaction. You have taken them personally which is interesting it itself. I notice you didn’t take offense at Mark calling Hung a park bench drunk. It would seem that you have taken a selective view of what is offensive and what is not.
I did use the f word to Astyages, a person I know personally, a person who swears along with me when we are together. The comment was for T2 not either of you. T2 has not expressed offense however you have. Are you both just being a precious?
Yes one day I mucked around with posts from Julian as a bit of fun but did not compromise Julian in anyway shape or form. I then went on to delete those comments as site administrator. How many comments do you make each year without any interference, I’d say 99.9%, again pretty small stuff.
Both of you have been very kind to me and I consider you both as friends. These comments I made was a reply to JG Cole who obviously saw the funny side of what was said and I clearly included myself at all times.
Voice, the comments were a joke, surely you know my sense of humor by know. You have fixated yourself on the sexual comments but ignored the rest again selective at best. Where you think I called Julian gay is totally beyond me, a shit stirrer for example is a person that is a bit provocative to try and get a reaction from another person, it has nothing to do with being gay. You then ignored the rest of the quip which was all positive.
Julian, I see none of my comments as abusive or rude. I am disappointed that you, a man of the world, has been unable to discern that. The Clip was invented to store music clips as I am the bunny that has to go through each page and create archives. I released a set of guidelines for us all to work to however some folk just ignore this. Polluted, strong words, you are obviously feeling a bit emotional about all this.
Again I apologise that you are offended. This was not the intent. If I wished to offend you I just simply would have used much stronger language. I feel you both are being a bit sensitive and failed to connect with my well known absurd humor. In other words it was just a big joke that you both didn’t get, I’m sorry for that but please don’t take yourselves so seriously, relax, enjoy, have a look at yourself.
Your friend
Mark.
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I suppose I took umbrage at your rewriting of my thoughts Mark. That’s what happened.
And without going through all of your comments, I can’t say how many and where you said, ‘ fuck’, but there were just loads and loads. It is sometimes appropriate and sometimes not.
As an administrator you write a reply under a post, which interrupts the flow, as the other writer cannot respond in the same way . It is extremely irritating and useless.
So all in all I would just say settle down and try and be as normal as one can be with depression. I have been through it and I know from T2’s posts; he has.
As to the music–of course you can post where you like. However it must be obvious that no-one is going to listen to 5 or 6 in a row, in a section mainly devoted to The Drum.
But do what you like. If’n I get bored, I will Eff off!
Now let’s get back to normal. A few more stories on the writing side: in latest posts!
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Julian, what your problem mate? You swear and some of your jokes have been so offensive I have had to delete them? What’s you problem mate?
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To be perfectly honest, Hung, I DID dislike that park bench drunk comment about you too. It was icky. And some other things you’ve said about other people and the way you sometimes badmouth yourself. So, perhaps you’re right, too easily offended. Not sure offended is the right word. Sometimes even if you’re not exactly offended, it doesn’t seem right just to let something pass without comment. I could have emailed you privately I suppose; perhaps you would have preferred that.
An apology that ends in “have a look at yourself”. Hmmm. Well, I’m not hanging out for a better one. Since you clearly think the fault is mine, it was nice of you to apologise at all.
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Julian, I don’t expect you to listen to he music I post, it’s up to you if you want to hear it, and I would guess it’s like anyone that wants to blog music songs. What’s special about me? You and Voice have taken a special stance about me that to the point I can no longer be myself as you and Voice will take umbrage if I say a word out of place. You have become the thought police, I can say anything I like as long as you and Voice agree, you are now holding Mike Jones to ransom as your egos have been dented in some way, how fragile are you?
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Well Voice, sorry, but have a look at yourself please, I do not have any problem with the joke comments that I posted, I clearly included myself, you and Jules display your own fragility by you post joke comments, If you had told me to Eff Off like Helvi I would have had much more respect for you, you are both prima donas that don’t want their own views challenged, yes lets be mates with Voice and Julian as long as we agree with everything they say, I mean is this how you want to live life?
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Genuine regrets Hung. If Julian’s ever taken offence at an occasional fuck in your comments or I’ve ever insisted you agree with me, I’m Martina Navratilova.
But genuine regrets because you can be and often are funny and also you seem a really good guy sometimes and that’s the truth.
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Wishy washy and vague, what about you Jules, Voice is defending you?
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Hmm. nothing but hollow, vague threats
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Mark! I don’t have anything to add to what I have written above. And I see no point in trying to squeeze any more out of it.
Write an article.And I’ll write one. Is that a deal?
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What ever you say Jules, I no longer have a view to express otherwise I will have hell and high water dumped on me
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Jules, I cannot believe one word that you say
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Hung, can’t you post these on the music section?
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You wrote this Algy: “You have a habit of blurting on about the unions they only represent 1:5 workers at best. Still if you repeat the same old same old, like Tony Abbott.
I’m not sure what it means?
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It means that only 1 in 5 workers belongs to a union. About 14% in the private sector and a littl over 20% in the public.
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In other words the massive union representation in the government is unrepresentative of ‘real’ Australia.
I had written a reply to you : I’ll paste it in:
Union affiliation: Gillard, Ludwig, Wong, Shorten, Combet, Ludwig and Conroy (Transport Union). Your maths is worse than The Interplanetary Treasurer of the year.
As Hawke said, yesterday, or today, “get rid of the union influence”.
No offence Algernon, but you need some new specs!!
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You’ll get no argument from me that the unions are over represented in the Labor party as well as in government and that that needs to be remedied. On that point I agree with Hawke. If they don’t then the Labor party will be a rump of a party in 15 years.
NSW is a good example of what happens when union donkeys start running the asylum. Then you end up with a lazy do nothing Liberal government looking to the 2023 election.
Don’t fool yourself about the LNP though Vectis. There is hardly an economist in the country that thinks the LNP is economically literate federally. I hope for their sake that they get rid of Abbott and replace him, possibly with Malcolm.
It will be interesting in your home state. Commonwealth games on the gold coast, the white shoes starting to circle and almost certainly a LNP government this year. That has all the hallmarks of Joh Bejlke-Petersen Mk2 though that maybe a bit before you time.
The Liberal party is no more represetative of the general society than Labor.
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What is ‘ the white shoe’ reference Algy?
Sorry to be a bit slow .
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Sorry VL, been out all day, White shoes refers to dodgy developers. They had a field day on the Gold Coast (and much of Queensland for that matter) during Johs time.
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Hello! Complaints department please.
Someone has commandeered one of my pseuds: Paul Mylegg!
It’s just `not’ cricket.
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Happens to the best of us it seems !! Good psued and now has a new home.
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Well you can’t pick it. Seems today its open slather day at the Drum, or perhaps the mod hasn’t got to work yet.
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I have dropped several on Damon Young’s article and one on Berg’s.
None have appeared.
I despair Algernon.
This is pigawful!
Perhaps I should try again.
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Its a lottery JG, one minute the posts are almost instant. The next they’re almost asleep. Yesterday couldn’t get a post up and had some removed.
Keep going and see what happens.
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hahhaha
Algernon, i did try again……
That one did not appear,
but what did appear…..was my first one – TWICE!!!!
and I only posted ONCE!!!!
Lord, spare us the absurdity of Drum moderation 😉
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JG,
You will find here sycophantic weak kneed suck holes, me included. If you tell the Piglets how you really feel they will hate you, even though the language will be pleasant, they will hate you. My advice is to keep your mouth shut, unlike me that says what ever I feel the rest are just small town sycophants. There are exceptions of course but I will let you figure out which ones they are. Here’s an assessment
Emmjay – Good guy but doesn’t come here often
Gerard – see Emmjay plus he comes here often
Helvi – Great if you are Scandinavian, has a great life attitude and is my all time favourite
Big M- A Good bloke, who drinks pale ale
Algernon – see Big M, except[t he doesn’t drink pale ale but is a fellow cricket tragic.
Viv – Not consistent but nice
Vecits – Good bloke, shit stirrer and a right winger, I like him
T2 – too intellectual but a good bloke
Atomou – a wise sage who understands about taking the piss
Voice – a miss guided lesbian heterosexual, the doyen of all women, intelligent, smart and busty
Hung – a borderline bench drunk that thinks farting is funny
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Its a strange animal the mod.
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Hung, oh me god, I love this, I love to be someone’s all time favourite, many many thanks for that.
It’s not true that I only like Scandinavians, i like Aussies like you who speak from the heart, and some Dutchmen, even if they laugh at farting jokes, like Gez…
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hahah
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hahh
haha
Bravo Hung!!!
I imagine I’ll need to pull my socks up in such…..esteemed company!
Ummm, move over and gimme a little room on that bench of yours 😉
All the very best for this new year Hung. Health and happiness, laughter and buffoonery!
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Faith No More – Easy
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Hung, a small correction. I drink pale ale. It’s my beer of choice.
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Yes Lord Algernon, I was just trying to be funny 🙂
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Did you go to the test?
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Sorry, missed that.
As regards the Test, not today, Algy junior had to work. We’re off to the game tomorrow. In many respects the first session will set up the rest of the Test. India looks like it has far more problems with their aging players than we do. Our bowlers are looking very good, batting is still brittle though.
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Hung ! Me, ‘not consistent but nice’. Since when did I blow hot and bold, or inconsistent. I don’t understand. Sob……..
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Grrr. hot and cold. I’m always bold.
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Helvi,
Tell me who Reader1 is.
Tell me of Tomokatu.
Tell me of the others.
Ta.
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Who was feeding on quill?
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que?
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“Feeding on Quill”, is a poster.
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Funston, I am in foul temper this morn…..stop with your infernal riddles!
Will you light the dark…..or continue to taunt me?
Damn that fuking Moderation team!
I spent over an hour penning articulate and deeply personal posts on Damon Young’s article. Only 2 or 3 of the general ones appeared. Yet Mitor, for the second time in as many weeks, is sitting at 20ish posts!!! Every one of my attempts at conversation were halted. Every one!
I am disgusted….and plan, this very minute, to compose a long note registering my utter contempt for their method. I shall cite points of common jurisprudence, point to specific cases, highlight examples and generally hurl every invective known to me…..
Such is my displeasure.
And this time I shall demand a response.
I shall concoct some story as to the….necessity….of a response, something along the lines of Funston’s uncle is Mark Scott and this is an official Govt sponsored enquiry into the methodologies employed at the Drum Moderation.
Something like that anyway.
Wish me good fortune!
That….or start suggesting some new pseudonyms.
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Riddles? I posted as Lord Byron–then a harmless post–about the fear of death.
There seems no rhyme or reason to the moderation.My lucid sensible posts are censored, yet the idiotic ramblings by weakly minded Malcolm and Brian62, are put up.
I wrote a long post to Azrael, which didn’t appear. However some absolute tripe did.
Try pasting your message into outlook and emailing yourself. The when the moderators change shifts–repost it. Just cut and paste from your mail. I do it now and again, if I suspect that one particular moderator is just culling every 3rd post or so–just for fun. Which I am convinced that they do!
I don’t use word to compose my posts. I types straight into the box–so once it’s gone, I can’t save it!
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Just a rider to that: There is the thrill 😉 of getting a sensible post in ones mailbox 🙂
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Have I said what a great guy Hung is
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Prove it! Draw a 6 with your right hand–and turn your foot in clockwise circles.
To claim your $ 20. winnings post a vid on You Tube
Oh and what a great guy Hung is
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So is your name Sunny or Vectis? Get with it man
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Well on the “Speaking of 2011” blog, Feet Slipper, VoR and I post comments together complete with a s soapbox entry for VoR. 15 minutes later I come back and they’ve removed them. Feet Slippers comments on censorship with Vor and I talking about Unleashed must have urked them.
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Yeah VoR is scary at the best of times 🙂
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I’ve had another removed from the same blog yet JohnM appears to go on unscathed. I sent a note off to the Mods yet nothing will happen. They must fear the pigs ganging up. Its ironic that they would fear a comment of robust debate then cull it.
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algie: You mean my comment along the lines of “Unleashed is dead and secretly buried. The only memorial is some old works and the web address, and those just to disguise its demise and attract its followers to The Drum”?
And I didn’t even borrow “The Dumb” from whatever bright spark (VL?) initiated it!
That a topic of the article is free speech is certainly ironic.
No reason for them to cull JohnM. He’s just indulging in the Left/Right rhetoric that it’s deliberately generating, and a bit of toothless general-purpose ABC bashing.
Hung: Beautiful!
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Yes I am beautiful thanks Voice
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P.S. I’m pretty sure the Soapbox entry is automated, not meritorious. Oh, yes and Hung is a great guy.
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Voice, yes thats the one. I thought it was ironic. You maybe right on the soapbox.
I’m not suggesting they cull JohnM, just apply the same due diligence that they seem to apply to others. Interesting mine was the only reply culled.
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All of my ‘today’s’ comments have been removed.
It’s worse than Mulga’s utopia: N. Korea.
And by the way Hung is a great guy
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Must just be Mondays Moderator, must have left the office junior in charge earlier in the day.
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Well at least we’ve got our 5 minutes of fame on Ellis piece before they tear it down. That and a soapbox each.
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Vectis Lad says:
January 2, 2012 at 1:28 pm
That’s peculiar. Someone substituted the word , ‘WAITER’, for ‘guy’??
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Sorry Jules but what problem do you have with waiters?
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I know perhaps, waiter theres a wanker in my soap.
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I think Jules has had to much to drink, next he will be telling us he is voting Labor 🙂
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Maybe Julian is drifting back to an old life when he was lord of the manor, hence his referral to waiters, just saying like
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Don’t tell everyone as they will all want one 🙂 Waiter!
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Manuel! Manuel!
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Love “pulpitory!” Sort of marriage of pulp and oratory which is what is always flambéd at the pulpit.
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J.G•CO╚∈
Testing
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J.G•C⊙╚∈
More testing
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Ta Funston, I like this’n….
How were the fireworks?
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Just a lot of noise in the background. Much ado about nuffink*.
The women, including my 89 yro Mum, drank 1bt of Lanson, 1bt of Moet and some New Zealand white. My brother-in-law, a Scot, had a beer and 1 gin, and I, had Buderim ginger beer.
* I think that there must have been a directive from the council safety officers to explode the fireworks at ground/beach level–as I could only see a glow, whereas last year there were spectacular sky bursts.
Oh well, on to the next thing.
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JG Cole was a merry old soul
And a merry old soul was he;
He called for his mate, and he did him cajole
Please find a cool font for me.
Then Vectis Lad oh he had a fiddle,
And a very fine fiddle had he;
Oh there’s none so rare, as can compare
With the symbols for JG.
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Ah h ha ha aha ha ha, oh, gosh, ah ha ha ha ha ha
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He reckons he’s a young soul.
………………………
Thank god hung has gone to bed.¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯__________
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Thanks VL, I ‘ll correct it in the draft of the official biography. 🙂
This only commemorates a single event in the life of. If, as it seems, you know more, perhaps you could draw upon your descriptive flair for a stanza or two.
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Voice, I shall not attempt to match your versification – it made me smile – with my most probable dull poesy.
I would ask you though to refrain from extending the invitation to Funston to add to your rhyme.
I fear mockery…..
I fear dull doggerel more!!! 😉
Oh, the biography you mention – is it authorised?
😉
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A bit of light-hearted doggerel that sprang from a burst of enthusiasm.
For what it’s worth, JG, I retract my invitation. I feel sure that any mockery would be in good spirits, but mockery all the same is a sensitive thing.
On the other hand he might see the “dull doggerel” as a challenge. Oh dear, am I doing it again? 🙂
Bonne journée.
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🙂 I am of thick skin Voice…..most of the time!
And I welcome doggerel, dull or otherwise, from any budding poets….
I welcome them at my expense, I welcome them at anyone’s expense!
We are friends (of sorts) and much can be forgiven……with a smile 🙂
I look forward to your second stanza……burst enthusiasm and all!
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Although I don’t usually think it’s necessary to criticize the spelling of the commenters over at the Dumb, I’ve just spotted a beaut of a spelling error about halfway down the comments section to Kevin Donelly’s latest drivel, which begs for some comment, though as usual the blog is closed for comment.
Coming from an ‘Aussie Believer’, who bemoans the present lack of popularity of the bible, and whilst attempting to assert the bible’s historicity as well as the accuracy of ‘prophecy’ pens this little gem:
“When comparing it to Islam remember 11 different historian including the roman ceasers personal historian recorded Christs crucifiction and then Mohammed comes along 600 years later and says ,”no that didn’t really happen a angel told me so.” Yes it should be part of school.”
Now, we can ignore the fact that this sentence, like the rest of ‘Aussie Believer’s’ post, just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever and focus for a moment on an interesting, if, as I strongly suspect, accidental, neologism: “crucifiction”…
Presumably this refers to some kind of “Clayton’s crucifixion”…
😉
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Donnelly is a one-trick ass. He is so predictable that he is unreadable so I no longer read him. Some times I’ll have a look at what the commenters on his essay say, which is more than my quota of bullshit allows.
He is always thumping his fist at the dais hoping to get Christianity taught in State Schools -or the Christian book. It seems that that’s what he was up to with his latest pulpitory. Why the Dumb keeps publishing him, I’ll never know.
Teach the bible? What the fuck for? What subject does he want this bullshit to replace, maths? Science? Geography? History? And what part of the book-of-crap does he want taught? The bit that says, “if your son does not believe in God then it should be your hand that proudly raises the sword and cuts him down?” The bit that says, “if you want to cure all illnesses, then you go to the public dunny and take some soil within two meters from it and eat it?” The bit that says “you should sacrifice your only son?”
Horrible bullshit!
Myths, on the other hand -from every corner of the planet- are taught as myths. No one is asked to believe that one goddess was not born of a woman but sprung out of Zeus’ knee, fully dressed in her armour.
And then there are those who call the bloody thing a “historical document.” What part of it is historical? What part of it has anything to do with reality?
As for it being a work of Literature, well yeah, anything that has words in it, is a work of Literature. True, some bits are well written and prick the imagination but the great chunk of it is very basic Lit.
It’d be far better to teach all the by products of the book: the real history, that’s full of frenzy and crime and blood, or the art, some of which is truly inspirational, the music, the novels and poetry which have emerged out of it but the book itself, is dangerous garbage and stands at the core of much of the horror the world finds itself still.
It’s quite unremarkable that religious nutters are illiterate, or dyslexic, asty. Quite unremarkable.
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You’ll get no argument from me on the subject of religion ato… but my comment on the spelling of ‘crucifiction’ was rather on its Freudian-slip-like aptness… ‘Crucifiction’… a fiction about a crucifixion… a ‘Clayton’s crucifixion’… perhaps suggesting that subconsciously even ‘Aussie Believer’ doesn’t really believe… oh and yes Hung is a great guy
🙂
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Quite so, asty. Even though I have posted under your thoughts, I was more concerned with the whole issue as is constantly blurted out by sycophantic, neurotic, psychopathic, hypocritical, bigoted, dyslexic, fiction fucking (they screw up a good piece of fiction -or am I overengineering this metaphor?) dummies, like Donnelly.
A joyful, foot loose and fancy free year to you! Oh and by the way Hung is a great guy
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You’re sooooooo fucking cheeky, Hungsie!
A great gay -oops, I mean, guy- but veeeeery cheeky!
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That is an absolute beauty of a neologism.
The Drum is a rich source of malapropisms too, among which :
– … the actions metered out to me have taught me … (I suppose it is only a matter of time until this becomes an accepted use)
– Women will shout loudly about inequality in the workforce, then demand quoters.
– Never let a series crisis go to waste.
Of course they could just be spelling errors. Hard to tell really.
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Gee Voice, when you grow up you should be a woman
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Get a job nursing you mean?
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Well at least you would be doing something useful instead of n=n+1 else etc
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Hard to tell if you actually have anything to say [groan]
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Hey Hung, my porno betting animal abuse, lesbian black disabled whale loving equal rights amputee’s, blind impaired tactile poor homeless homosexual fur hating vegans, vegetarian lactose free Christian Buddhist meat eating petrol heads, Vogons, really take umbrage with what you say
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Take a valium.
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Benzo’s are very addictive, please stop recommending this
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Benzodiazapines are very addictive and add little value to health, please stop recommending this
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‘Ee, ah lahk a nice new word-loike!
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