The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.
NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.
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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off. Like a sack of prawn heads in the sun. Something had to be done.
Moderation was taking forever. Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged. When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !
So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit. And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.
As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire. And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.
So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog. Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity. Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.
And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments. Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.
Cheers,
Emm.
Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
Beautiful outside and here I am working from home.
I’ve trawled through the comments here (been away for a while) and one really caught my attention. The idea that Nordiska Hairy Folket had been told to ‘tow the line’ by The Drum Mods. I helped him check his e-mail. No contact. So I don’t know how they told him.
I see he got a comment up today. I actually put him up to it to test the theory that the Mods had taken a set against him.
Another was pinged. A response to Custard to the effect that ideas offensive to Nordi are against the house rules. He also accused Custard of being VoR and threatened to use contacts in the ABC to have her banned.
Just so we all know, Nordi gets pinged regulary. That’s appropriate (but his funnisest stuff doesn’t see the light of day). As I’ve said since he showed up he should be censored. With one proviso. If they censor the parody they must censor the real thing. If they allow the latter they must allow the former.
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I don’t get it ! What are you talking about SM?
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Gerard on this page on 20 Jan said that he has it on ‘good authority’ Den Nordiska Hairy Folket had ‘been told to tow the line’ by the Drum Mods. I know for fact that no one has told Nordi any such thing. We share an e-mail address.
Today’s effort from Hairy Folket at The Drum are solely to test Gerard’s theory that the Mods are cracking down on him. He’s getting the same old stuff up so I doubt it.
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It’s all very odd Sea Monster. Why make up something about DNHF being told to tow the line? To scare? To impress? It’s a BLOG folks. Lighten up.
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Now named UncleMonkey replying to Gerard. This is hard to follow. Nordi and JohnM – I can see that.
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It’s classic trolling.
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I rarely get what SM goes on about, always waffles on in riddles thinking they’re smart. I think its arguement is part of the argument about multiple pseuds
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Well I’m just stuck with being straight forward and honest and I don’t play games. Seems silly to me. Yes, SM may seem to waffle somewhat – what I’d call obscure. I used that word once before ! Obviously a coincidence. You and I often wind up at the same spot on the Drum. If I don’t manage to comment on Custard he always manages to come right after me.
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Couldn’t agree more vivienne, at least you know where you stand being straight forward and honest. I see the same at the Drum today with HOO as well.
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Got a few in Ace. Isn’t funny how the right wing want a war with Indonesia.
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Yep they just don’t seem to get it do they Hung. A few party trolls at it as well I notice.
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Ha Ha! JohnM takes Nordi’s bait. I’d like to note my pleasure in that. Same when reaver does it.
I’ve no love of party boosters full stop. I like it when they take Nordi seriously and take him on. Two birds with one stone…
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I thought the Drum would be a shut shop for the holiday today. Nup – Mungo is there with a new one posted half an hour ago.
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I just read that ninny Novak’s article on the Drum. Pushing the IPA agenda and trying to help Abbott with a load of drivel. But, now do note this – the usual trolls from the young Libs or whoever they are took the day off. Seemed every comment poo-pooed the article and gave plenty of good reasoning and argument.
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Helvi, I was going to say “I never reach your heights. You are an angel” but some people will interpret this as if we are pissing into each other’s pocket.
Then again, I care very little of what people think of me. To hell with other people: You are an angel.
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We do not content ourselves with the life we have in ourselves and in our own being; we desire to live an imaginary life in the mind of others, and for this purpose we endeavour to shine. We labour unceasingly to adorn and preserve this imaginary existence and neglect the real.
– Blaise Pascal, Pensées, no. 147
How true, how true…
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Janus
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That’s an interesting quote. For some it may be true, not all, not ‘we’, just some. Well, it is certainly not me. What year was that written?
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Between 1623 and 1662
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I was going to congradulate you for your finally finding the dot. Then I read further and found you’d been tipped off.
I found it the first time I came here. Quite proud of myself I was…
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I’m being as Australian as possible. Simultaneously agreeing with how terrible Abbott was at Davos and preparing roast lamb for dinner – buying Australian lamb and vegies and drinking Australian wine and watching Australian programs on the tele.
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Abooot: yes a generally accepted principle is that one doesn’t bring domestic polices into the international arena. However, on thinking about it and reading some commentator’s opinions, it obviously was a crafty strategy.
The G20, is a meeting about finance and what better example to give (about finance) than Australia’s double stimuli.
It could well backfire, since most economists agreed with it. And Swan walked around like a peacock, glorifying in the accolades.
So he hung his hat, controversially, in my view and we will have to see if he’s correct. It was a brave call and will be disputed by better brains than ours.
As Algernon knows , my view is that there should have only been ‘one’ stimulus.
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Interestingly most world economics commentators say we got it right therefore they must look at Abbott and think he is an idiot.
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The aroma of the roasting lamb beckons. I’ve also done a tomato bake with real breadcrumbs (have plenty of tomatoes!) and am sipping on a ouzo on the rocks. The spuds need turning, there’s gravy with homegrown roasted garlic to tend to and then the meat needs resting.
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Sarah Blasko is an Australian singer-songwriter. A very nice lady.
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🙂
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HOW TO SPEAK LIKE AN AUSTRALIAN
COMPLIMENTS
“Ya bloods worth bottling!”
“He’s True Blue”.
“I’d be up her like a rat up a drain pipe”.
“A better man never stood in two shoes!”
YES
“Does a fat dog fart?”
“Even Blind Freddy could see it”.
“Is the Pope a Catholic?”
“Does a Koala shit in a gum tree and wipe his ass on a Cockatoo?”
“Bloody oath!”
“No wuckin’ forries”.
“Is a frog’s arse watertight?”
“Does a duck’s bum pucker in a power dive?”
NO
“Pig’s arse!!”
“Do chickens have lips?”
ASSORTED
“Drilling for Vegemite”. (Anal sex)
“I’ll have a super”. (I’ll have a beer)
“Make mine an unleaded”. (I’ll have a light beer)
“Going off like a frog in a sock”. (try to picture this one)
“Like throwing a sausage down a hallway” (bad sex with a loose girl)
“Like trying to put a marshmallow in a coin slot” (sex after a few too many beers)
I’M HUNGRY
“I could eat the crotch out of a dead leper’s undies”.
“I could eat the horse and chase the jockey”.
“So hungry I’d eat a shit sandwich”.
“I could eat the arse out of a rag doll through a cane chair”.
“So hungry I could eat the arse out of a low flying duck”.
I’M THIRSTY
“I’m dry as a dead dingo’s donger”.
“I’m drier than a nuns nasty”.
“I’m dry as a fuck with no foreplay”.
“I’m as dry as a pommie’s bath mat”.
“I’m as dry as a bulls bum going up a hill backwards”.
“I’m drier than an Arab’s fart”.
I NEED TO GO FOR A PEE
“Gonna drain the dragon”.
“My back teeth are floating”.
“Need to syphon the python”.
“I got to take a snake’s hiss”.
“Gotta go have a slash”.
“Gonna go water a horse”.
“I’m off to drain the main vein”.
“Time to splatter the bladder”.
“I’m dying for a piss so bad I can taste it”.
“Shake hands with the wife’s best friend”.
I NEED TO DO A POO
“I gotta go give birth to a politician”.
“I’m takin’ a stroll to the gravy bowl”.
“Off to the bog to leave an offering”.
“Time to snap off a grogan”.
“Have to hang a brown bear in the porcelain cave”.
“I’m gonna strangle a brownie”.
“There’s a brown dog barking at the back door”.
“I’m going to give birth to your twin”.
“Need to choke a brown dog”.
“Taking out the garbage”.
“I gotta back one out”.
“Gonna lay some cables”
“Off for a James Hird”
“I’m touching cloth”
“The turtle is poking his head out for a look”
“Spray painting the Duck Bluey”
VOMIT
“I was driving the porcelain bus this morning”.
“I left him a lawn pizza”.
“Toss a tiger on the carpet”.
“Having a technicolour yawn”.
“Say hello to Ruth”
INSULTS
“I hope your ears turn into arseholes and shit on your shoulders”.
“Not enough brains to give himself a headache!”
“About as useful as tits on a bull”.
“You must be the world’s only living brain donor”.
“He’s a few wanks short of an orgasm”.
“She had more pricks than a second hand dartboard”.
“Fell out of the ugly tree, and hit every branch on the way down”.
“Face like a bashed crab”.
“May your chooks turn into emus and kick your dunny down”.
“He’s got a few roo’s loose in the top paddock”.
“So stupid that he wouldn’t know a tram was up him ’til the bell rang!”
“Couldn’t organise a piss-up in a brewery”.
“Pull your lip over your head and swallow!”
“As ugly as a hat full of arseholes”.
“If I had a dog that looked like him, I’d shave it’s arse and make it walk backwards”.
“Got a face like a bashed in shit can”.
“Couldn’t tell his ass from a hole in the ground”.
“Couldn’t drive a greasy stick up a dog’s arse”.
“Couldn’t organise a fuck in a brothel with a fist full of fifties”.
“About as useful as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking competition”.
“I’ll kick your bum till your nose bleeds!”
“A stubbie short of a six pack”.
“Seen better heads in a piss trough”.
“You’re as handy as shit on a stick”.
“Tighter than a fish’s arse”.
“So tight that he wouldn’t shout if a shark bit him”.
“As ugly as a bulldog chewing a wasp”.
“He could talk a dog off a meatwagon”.
“Fucked in the head”.
“You’ve got a head like a half-eaten pastie”.
“He wouldn’t go two rounds with a revolving door”.
“Mate, shes as rough as a pigs breakfast”.
“He’s got a face like a cat licking shit off a thistle”.
“She’s been hit with the ugly stick too many times”.
“She’s two pick handles wide”.
“An arse like two pigs fighting in a sugar bag”.
“You’ve got a head like a dropped pie”.
“He thinks his shit don’t stink, but his farts give him away”.
“I wish his dad had settled for a blow job”.
“If I had a head like yours I’d circumcise it”.
“Wouldn’t know if someone was up him sideways with an armful of deck chairs”.
“As thick as two short planks!”
“Shit for brains”
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I could point out a variation to vomit:
Saying hello to Bill and Ruth.
Or an insult from the Australian movie Newsreel:
Get stuffed, no I’ll do better than that, I’ll invite you to bite your bum.
The one legged man is a favourite.
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Yawn
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I’m watching a wonderful doco on Indigenous TV – about Australia Day 1988 – from an Aboriginal perspective and from the rest. No commentary other than what was actually on the footage as it happened. Excellent reminder of how far we have not come (apart from the wonderful Sorry in parliament).
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Thank you, Helvi 🙂
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Grrrr…
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I hope everyone has calmed down and ready for something else to ‘discuss’. To cut a long story short I have had no internet/email since 8 am Friday. Sometime in the middle of the night (after 6pm Thursday) Telstra unplugged my connection to Broadband. Miraculously sometime in the middle of last night, someone drove out to the village exchange (it’s a large metal cubby house) and plugged me back in.
There was a short sharp storm at around 4.30 am on Friday morning but we have them frequently here and it never does anything other than blow out transformers and we lose power. I’ll be having an ‘exchange’ with Telstra next week over who pays my bill (as I said, it is a long story).
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We sure are (ready).
As far as I know, Patrick White has been the ONLY writer to have received this Australia award.
Australia should be deeply ashamed of this. Unless we never have writers worthy of it.
Surely literature is capable of transforming a society a bit more than kicking a strange oblong ball about?
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He didn’t get the gong for playing football. He does a lot of other good things and is a role model for indigenous people etc. I think the Australian of the Year committee need to look a bit harder. I think local government awards are more relevant overall.
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Good luck vivienne, I had a six moth running battle with them over stuff ups with transfers and bills. Ask to escalate it should you not get anywhere with the first phone monkey.
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Was it six moths each or three a side?
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boom boom! 🙂
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It was asked to be escalated (eventually) – ISP want to prove that everything has been checked before they go further. It was all fruitless. I have a new modem which I should pay for but the bill for my techy to come out – needs to be paid for by Telstra. Something similar happened to me some years ago and I eventually won and got recompensed for four unnecessary trips to town as well. It’s a pain in the arse though. My ISP has no office here – I have no idea where they are. They are the ones who took over my previous (and one and only) ISP who went kinda bankrupt – so not as straight forward as it used to be.
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We had a new modem turn up with no instructions. We were transferring from a business to a consumer plan should have been straight forward, 23 phone calls later. We got finally got there. Junior who was dealing with many ISP’s trough work said none of them are any different. Anyhow the bill turned up with the cost of a modem and a whole lot of other costs as well as $2 for the paper bill.
I wrote a complaint and a phone money rings me telling me I’m complaining about the $2 pater bill, I asked if she’d read the complaint, she said she had and I was complaining about the $2, I asked to be escalated to straight away as part of this was a threat to go to the Telecommunications Ombudsman. and I wasn’t dealing with people who weren’t taking it seriously.
Eventually spoke with their legals and all the extra costs were waived and a $20 reduction in the monthly internet bill.
A later bill had something missing so I had an extra week to pay (in writing). The following bill had a $15 late fee, Rang up and it was taken off, the next bill had a $15 deduction on it. Somehow their all OK now.
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Algy – my ‘old’ modem was fine as it turned out but I had asked my techy to bring a new one so all aspects were covered. Being out of town one has to be prepared for all possibilities. The new one I will pay for – previous one was 5 years old and apparently they don’t go on forever so I thought of it like buying a new model. Getting a win with Telstra is like winning the lottery! The problem with all this shit is that one gets no explanation. Telstra has my email, they send me newsletters and one came in today (!!) telling me all the wonderful things they do and want to do for me. Ha.
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PS – you story sounds like the one I had years ago. But they actually recompensed me too much. I told the personal Telstra contact I had and she said to forget it and so would she !
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I might add that I wanted all correspondence in writing which was not forthcoming. I continued getting tax invoices for my internet for $4.20 credit, I asked them could they just apply that to my current bill so as to stop sending me the invoices, That was a 10 discussion with their manager which the duly did. Then they wanted me to do the on line survey for their service. Nowadays when I contact them and they ask, I tell them I’m with them under sufferance and they busily start to run around trying to fix things
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It seems to me that they have to stick with some pre-determined script which prevents staff (they can’t all be dills) from applying commonsense and from sorting it out as it should be done. What the hell is the point of sending an invoice month after month telling someone they owe you $4.20. For shit’s sake. Take it off the account in the first place. Madness, isn’t it.
Now, they used to have some staff who had some responsibility to take CONTROL of these issues – get it out of the round-about of nonsense. Why aren’t these matters automatically referred to them? Do they still exist? They did in December 2007 when I had my first disaster. But I had to work very hard to find that person. I think they closed the Albury office – not the same as a shop.
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I found I had no trouble until about a year ago, however of late its all phone run around. One moment your talking to someone in Manilla next they’ll transfer you so Bangalore. Most the time they sort it but when they don’t you end up running around in circles, occasionally they’ll put you through to an Australian, who picks up on the nuances. Mind you going into the shop can be hit and miss too. Some know what they’re doing others the lights on but no-one home and start parroting the company line
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Just to get back to perspective. My ISP is not Telstra. But the problem was Telstra – they are the only ones who can connect anyone to the Internet via enabling their phone line to be plugged in to whatever it is they do in the exchange. But all these outsourced jobs give me the shits. It might be cheaper but it is no good for our economy, no good for service, no good for jobs. Abbott – open for business – BS – it’s more sell out. Why the eff can Saputo (Canada) buy Warnambool Cheese but Murray Goulburn or Bega (Australian) not because it is counter-competition. Our ‘rules’ are arse up. Free Trade – ha ! Rip off crapulous garbage.
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I understood your ISP wasn’t Telstra. The problems with ISP is they are all the same, they aren’t interest in service and all dish up the same garbage.
I’m with you on Warnambool Cheese and Butter, how is any of that in the National interest. Food security should always be controlled here.
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That was the problem with my old ISP, the one who went bust. They provided service, they had their own staff answer the phone and sort stuff out. They had a newsletter. They had an office in Albury. They lasted for about 15 years.
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I wonder what the chances were for Julian Burnside to get ‘The Australian of the Year’ award?
I know football is very popular, but…?
I would have considered Ben Quilty. I know he is just an artist, even so, it would have been nice.
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At least he paints under his name! 😉
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Samuel Clemens is probably a better role model than you gerard. And Helvi writes as hph, sending smilies to herself.
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Carisbrooke, now you make me smile 🙂 hph is brave, intelligent, has a good sense of humour, plus he appreciates classical music…
I’ll never reach his hights, but thanks for the compliment.
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Mark Twain, already is my role model, love the man, love his writing….
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Quintin Bryce, Barry Humphries, Malcolm Fraser, Germaine Greer, even Cate Blanchett, a host of aboriginal artists all would have been a better choice, but a good footballer…? A totally silly choice by a totally silly man.
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So is it because he’s a footballer Gerard, Do you know anything of him apart from him playing football.
Are you aware he runs with his cousin that assists young aboriginal boys and girls get an education, jobs and promotes healthy lifestyles. I understand it was seeded with his own money. He’s also an anti-racism campaigner amongst other things.
What does Cathy Blanket do apart from put on shows for money and buy expensive apartments for her kids so they can live in a manner in which they’ve been accustomed when they grow up?
Look If I look a the lists of “of the year” there appears to be a political agenda behind it, there always is. Bit like honours like those released today, I’m sure there are many worth recipients, however there are many well connected who receive them just for asking for one.
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“hph is brave, intelligent, has a good sense of humour, plus he appreciates”
She/he, is a nosy, insulting idiot. And if gerard was doing his job as a moderator, he would have deleted his comments about the wearing of red, and eating oysters at my mother’s funeral.
As he didn’t I am assuming that it is you helvi, or someone that gerard knows??
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Can’t we cease this – I would have thought you would do as you say! Whoever hph is he is not Helvi and you know it. Writing styles are world’s apart Jules.
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Well, I apologise if I missed you criticising the other party, Vivienne – as others did – for the personal invasion?
If you did I didn’t see it.
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You are right. The article was on Nov 7. You commented on Nov 8
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Sorry I take it back. I wasn’t lying after all.
Article: The end of entitlements doesn’t apply to the rich.
07 Nov 2013 7:44:44am
07 Nov 2013 7:55:05am
This is just a clarification that I wasn’t lying.
but that’s all water under the bridge now.
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I was asleep watching TV the other night when the phone rang and woke me during one of the best TV shows ever, SBS Test Pattern. 🙂
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Here’s a nice tune
Lior – Old Love
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Is it the weather map? I think I caught sight of it once. Better than the original ABC one which was a real test pattern but didn’t test much on a black and white TV – so much better in colour!
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The trick is, you keep a civil tongue in your unprepossessing face and just go, “woof, woof”
🙂
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By Jimmy Carson;
He never came to me when I would call
Unless I had a tennis ball,
Or he felt like it,
But mostly he didn’t come at all.
When he was young
He never learned to heel
Or sit or stay,
He did things his way.
Discipline was not his bag
But when you were with him things sure didn’t drag.
He’d dig up a rosebush just to spite me,
And when I’d grab him, he’d turn and bite me.
He bit lots of folks from day to day,
The delivery boy was his favorite prey.
The gas man wouldn’t read our meter,
He said we owned a real man-eater.
He set the house on fire
But the story’s long to tell.
Suffice it to say that he survived
And the house survived as well.
On the evening walks, and Gloria took him,
He was always first out the door’
The Old One and I brought up the rear
Because our bones were sore.
He would charge up the street with Mom hanging on,
What a beautiful pair they were!
And if it was still light and the tourists were out,
They created a bit of a stir.
But every once in a while, he would stop in his tracks
And with a frown on his face look around.
It was just to make sure that the Old One was there
And would follow him where he was bound.
We are early-to-bedders at our house — I guess I’m the first to retire.
And as I’d leave the room he’d look at me
And get up from his place by the fire.
He knew where the tennis balls were upstairs,
And I’d give him one for a while.
He would push it under the bed with his nose
And I’d fish it out with a smile.
And before very long He’d tire of the ball
And be asleep in his corner In no time at all.
And there were nights when I’d feel him Climb upon our bed
And lie between us,
And I’d pat his head.
And there were nights when I’d feel this stare
And I’d wake up and he’d be sitting there
And I reach out my hand and stroke his hair.
And sometimes I’d feel him sigh and I think I know the reason why.
He would wake up at night
And he would have this fear
Of the dark, of life, of lots of things,
And he’d be glad to have me near.
And now he’s dead.
And there are nights when I think I feel him
Climb upon our bed and lie between us,
And I pat his head.
And there are nights when I think I feel that stare
And I reach out my hand to stroke his hair,
But he’s not there.
Oh, how I wish that wasn’t so,
I’ll always love a dog named Beau.
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Love the poem:)
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Since we are at this subject I want to ask you a question, Gerard. I saw this Russian film about 25 years ago. For a very long time I have been trying to find out whether a story or a novel exists or not. It was about a dog and his master and their relationship in pre-soviet era where the dog turns into a human being slowly over a period of time as they are having a political and cultural discussion with a lot of sarcastic humour in the conversation. This is nothing like Kafka’s Metamorphosis. I can not remember the title of the film either.
Did you ever come across to a story such as this one?
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I think it might be the 1988 Russian TV movie ‘Heart of a Dog’. Made from the 1925 book by Bukarev. “The novel has become a cultural phenomenon in Russia, known and discussed by people “from schoolchildren to politicians.” It has become a subject of critical argument, was filmed in both Russian and Italian-language versions, and adapted in English as a play and an opera.[5]Bukarev.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_of_a_Dog
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Thank you, thank you, Gerard. I’m very grateful.
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I got the book and the movie:)
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Another novel (and the name of the author) I am after is one from Hungary, The story is about a man who works in a government office or in a bank, builds/invents a chair at home that whoever sits on it will speak the truth and nothing but the truth, in other words the person can not lie. So he takes it to his office and puts it in front of his work desk and then… well you get the picture 🙂
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You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, ‘My God, you’re right! I never would’ve thought of that!
🙂
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woof woof ..
Ear Muffs $10 a pair on ebay… shop online.
woof woof ..
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🙂
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Hah!
Jules comes to me with an itchy spot and I scratch it. Simple as that.
Check his postings and mine. I stay clear away from his path!
I don’t start it and I don’t reply or respond to him at all.
If he does then he gets what he deserves.
But out of respect to Mike and all of you guys I will never ever again scratch his itchy spot.
I’ll leave it to you guys to do that job from now on.
funny how Ato talks about dogs and bones and not about swear words..heh heh
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I promise, never ever again…
But I promise you this as well: He’ll never be able to get rid of me out of his system for the rest of his natural life:)
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No more oysters, no more urchins, no more fish stories:)
*Promise*
However, you should check the news:)
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hph, my Milo spots the real one every time, no lessons to be taught; when the three vets arrive home after work, he has to be let loose to meet his friends… but when he hears the sound of the car of the village bitch, gossip, whatever, he puts his head down onto his doggie pillow/mattress… and ignores it…( he hears it alright.)
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Ohhh sweet Milo .. They are my best friends.
woof woof
🙂 🙂
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Thanks Helvi,
If no one whistles at me then I will put my head down next to Bubu… woof woof:)
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Swear words are words. They say something.
Barkings are fucking annoying noise!
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The Rolling Stones are coming to Adelaide and some suspicious white powder has been found in their belongings. The Police tested it at the lab and found that it was polyfiller. 🙂
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What not tar and cement?
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Age hasn’t been kind to them Ace.
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Indeed not Hung, another superannuation tour perhaps.
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I think they are getting half a mil but I would have thought they would already be well off
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I’m sure they aren’t short of a bob or too. Makes you wonder why they keep up hard touring as septuagenarians.
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On the day of your mother’s funeral you wore red, ate oysters, blogged at the drum and carried on…and vor is a liar, liar, pants on fire.
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I agree, so what if he was commenting on something, or other, on that day. Perhaps a diversion whilst waiting for a taxi or plane.
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I got the plane the following day; got back to Surfers – and then checked my mail.
The other time that you are thinking of, is when I was in Sydney (a week before)and the fires were causing smoke everywhere. I commenting as I logged into Sydney Airport WiFi.
BTW, that was the time that I drove to meet VoR. We had coffee and cakes near her house, at the same time as Sea Mendez was blogging on the PA.
It doesn’t matter now, but I am just recording it, because of accusations that she was Sea Mendez. It was irrefutable proof.
Unless, I was lying of course. You’ll have to take my word for it.
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Yes, for all we know, you and VoR could be Harold and Maude!
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More to the point, Sea Mendez, we could BOTH be Sea Mendez.
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….too scary!!
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Sorry Cariz, this should be below Algy’s comment. I agree with him that where you blog/comment/whatever, on whichever day is no one else’s business.
BTW, I don’t really care who VOR, or sea mendez., or any one else is, or isn’t.
I am genuinely sorry that these accusations are causing you pain.
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You are definitely a man of your word JL
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hph, methinks thou bartketh far too loudly and far too often. Beware the next bone!
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If Jules did choose to blog at The Drum on the day of his mothers funeral, so what. If that helped him get through the day then what’s wrong with that. From what I can gather he spent a considerable time with her in the weeks and months leading up to her death. Far more important I feel. At a funeral well she’s dead, Funerals are more for the living and those who haven’t had the opportunity to say goodbye. It would appear that Jules celebrated the day in the manner his mother would have approved of. I suspect much of his grieving was done beforehand.
Several of the PA family and their families have lost parents in the past year. Why signal him out for the manner in which he chose to remember her by.
I’ve been commenting with Jules since the beginning of Unleashed, I agree with him at times at others I disagree. We’ve had some real full blown barneys, I might bait him and he’s not too bad at baiting me. At times though, there has been friendship albeit through writing online.
By all means debate, pick apart others arguments, disagree or even have a go at one another. But remember the context.
Our families don’t come here and don’t debate here, we may well talk about them in context. Families especially out of context comments should be off limits. In death they are definitely off limits
On this line of argument, hph, it’s time to back off.
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Wholeheartedly agree, Algie.
Arguments, ideas, points of view are always arguable; and that’s where the arguments should stop.
And now that you’ve mentioned it, let me make a couple more observations.
The same with the bullshit about this nic belonging to that other nic and is the same person behind that other nic who nics under the other sixteen nics.
So fucking what?
So fucking, fucking what?
Even if Zeus himself has bestowed you an extra sense, some sort of ESP and you’re correct about that, so fucking what?
It’s so fucking boring, so fucking meaningless, so fucking irrelevant, so fucking pathetic!
Get to the idea propounded. Tell us what’s wrong or right with it and let us see your views on that idea, not on who’s wearing what nic under what nic!
We have lapsed deep into barnyard dog area and, frankly, if we can’t get ourselves out of that mode, then, once again, I might need to take a holiday. I don’t need the constant noise and the perpetual wining about personalities. I don’t come here for that. I come here to get some intellectual engagement, some intellectual and -even- moral nourishment, not to listen to rabid dog barkings.
Dogs bark to frighten you off. Well if that’s the pub’s agenda, that’s easily done! I’ll be off and the pub will only attract more barnyard dogs!
It certainly wasn’t like this in its earlier days. I remember turning up ready for good work and, for engaging myself and others with thoughts, not with bile.
It’s high time we got back to that!
Personally, I’d love to see good political commentary and debates, as well as good arts. Discussions on music of all sorts, on poetry and literature of all sorts, something for the students of a pub uni. Students who come here to learn something, to cross-fertilise views, thoughts, perceptions.
Fuck the inane bullshit. If that’s all you’ve got, then just shut up, sit at the table and listen. Stop the crap!
I say this with all due respect… to where respect is due.
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You really are a fucking moron aren’t you. My family ate oysters in respect of our mother, because she enjoyed them, however. I did NOT blog THAT day. I shouldn’t even be writing this.
Now fuck off back to the sewer and take your stupid inane smilies with you.
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here is my reply to Vor:
“..
Gerard says:
“The ALP has 3 years to return sentiment towards boat-people to a much more compassionate, acceptable, and normal level. The issue is a non issue and the numbers are miniscule compared with boat people overrunning Europe or refugees fleeing into their neighbouring countries.
No one wants people to risk lives in rickety boats, but they do. That is a fact. To treat them on-shore quickly, humanely and with compassion is the only answer. We are a country within own continent and blessed with the lowest density population in the world. We are blessed with space and sunshine. So, don’t be stingy when a few thousand undertake that terrible risky journey. Welcome them!”
..
He means Europeans are coping with a lot more.
And you say: “I have seen you yourself say outright that Europe is being overrun by refugees. How is it not silly for you to say that, yet it is silly to suggest Australia might be at risk of the same thing happening?”
You are taking what Gerard said above completely out of context and twisting into something entirely different.
…”
again, ….Bastards 🙂
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You called VoR, a liar. Strong language.
She proved you wrong, without even mentioning The PA.
We know that you lie, since you wrote that I blogged on the day of my mother’s funeral.
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Yes, VoR could have easily replied to so many others stating similar views. I must have an irresistible attraction when it seems to be always ‘Gerard Oosterman’ that she most responds to. The out of context and twisting is a ploy much favoured on blogs by many, it helps to get traction, as is writing under many different monikers heartily agreeing with each other.
Here again is my respond to Julian Burnside’s article that seems to have caught the wrath and the attention.
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gerard oosterman:
23 Jan 2014 9:14:46am
The atmosphere around the world is the border now. We just can’t let the countries such as Egypt, Libya, Palestine, Iran, Turkey, Pakistan etc. cope with millions (thousands every day)streaming over their borders. They come on foot carrying their bundles and their children.
For Australia to claim we are somehow at risk of being overrun and that same happening here is just silly that a Morrison has been successful in fomenting in ‘those like you’ .(so sorry)
Have you seen the tent cities in those arid countries?
We are such a huge country but our once generous hearts have shrivelled. That’s a pity.
Did my parents come here in vain?
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It’s amazing how quickly they change direction in a debate when they can no longer argue rationally and resort to other means to discredit your ideas. Sometimes, if they don’t have logical thought processes left anymore; they go into semantics and try to corner you with what you have written or said previously. …Fat chance! They, themselves, are trapped in the corner in the first place. Or left all alone in the middle of an ocean desperately holding onto a sentence as if it is a life jacket which will save them from drowning. And the persistence that follows afterwards is so incredibly stupid and boring.
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Gerad, you and VoR have had strong differences of opinion on many subjects and if you write controversial comments, it is acceptable that she writes back in a controversial manner.
If I write to you, I use my pseud…and I know that you know it’s me.
You do tend to go on and on about the same subjects – as is your right – however, expect to be called out on it. You cannot keep insulting Australians and promoting Scandinavia and Holland, without Ozzies fighting back. They are just as proud of their country as you seem to be of Holland and Scandinavia.
Surely?
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IS my manner controversial? Generally it’s considered to range from hilariously witty, to charmingly amusing, through to (alas, all too frequent) mundanely factual.
And please. Pride in your country is one thing – the stuff at gerard’s level I leave to Sea Mendez’ good friend Southern Cross Tattoo. I wouldn’t have a bar of it.
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Sorry Voice but I couldn’t see you as any of those options. Got any more.
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Hi HOO. You seem to be in good spirits.
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Going well at the moment thanks Voice. 🙂
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I replied to Vor three times at the Drum but to no avail! I couldn’t get thru! BASTARDS !
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Must be the new look hph
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Must be, Algernon, must be….
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I thought that you ‘were’ VoR.
I get confused. Now I read somewhere, that Clownfish is someone. I don’t know who. Is it hung?
Vivienne says that it’s the same person. but the same person as who??
And where is Sea Mendez? Have we frightened him off too? …And who is he? I thought that he was Gregor.
oooh it’s so confusing. if only I could tell from the way that they write. but I’m just not that smart.
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JL, If I change names I post them here so you guys know its me. Hung has a real hit and miss success rate at the drum so I change it to see if I get a better strike rate.
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yes, always make it obvious when it’s me. It’s part of the fun. Whether I’m Funston, Hadron or whatever.
I make sure that everyone spots my usual rhetoric,phraseology, syntax, cadence and rhythm.
I wish that I had more rhythm when I had Mitch’s drums. I might have kept them.
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Yeah, every time I sell a musical instrument I want it back straight away. Would Mitch’s drums have any collection value?
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Well, I’ll bring the sticks down to Adelaide
No doubt if I find hph, I’ll find you 🙂
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I could also hire a snare and show you and your BFF a couple of hard rim-shots and a heavy paradiddle!
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Not really sure what you mean JL but if you come down to Adelaide look us up but I’ll warn you I do live on the povo side of town.
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I still have your hand written letter, with your address on it. You included it when you sent me the music USB — which I returned — of course.
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Of course you did. I glad you got them as it was right up your alley
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And the gift card which was a lovely suprise
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The Drum has had a bit of a revamp. They explain the tweaking they have done. Not sure if it makes much difference really. Faster moderating would be better.
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Must have buggered up to posting then, not one got up until one where I was agreeing with Andie about how bad the moderation was.
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I agree Viv. In the good old days you have a conversation with someone. Now the Drum goes to sleep during the day and the next morning a couple of hundred posts appear. Hardly satisfactory. The other issue is why shut down over the weekend just when most can use it and why shut the article down to comments and leave it there. Dumb.
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The Libs getting all shrill about Abbott’s blue time, yet they wrote endlessly about Julia’s clothes, eyewear, nose, bottom , hair, her dead father, her partner, her fruit bowl, her kitchen, her voice……
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Don’t you mean “some people”, Helvi. Some of the posters could be from Iceland, or even human.
Just in case you thought that everyone in Mike’s Blog was against Liberal posters. I mean we don’t want to give that impression do we?
You write as if everyone in here is one eyed.
I say ever so politely.
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How is this for a trifecta – my fan club.
Stuffed Olive:
23 Jan 2014 9:32:39am
It saves having to make a decision each morning – just wear the same one again. Don’t have to think. Which figures – not much real thinking going on, about anything useful. Original thought with Abbott? Forget it. Just repeat slogans.
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Bean Counter:
23 Jan 2014 10:15:24am
“Just repeat slogans”. Hmmm, is that a three….word…slogan? Hmmm?
Just another exploded lefty head on display. Too funny SO.
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Clownfish:
23 Jan 2014 11:05:23am
Einstein had a wardrobe of exactly the same outfit for every day, too.
Are you going to accuse him of having been stupid as well?
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Andie:
23 Jan 2014 11:06:28am
What – like “we are us”. “a new way” , “moving forward” etc etc etc ???
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Have you cottoned on yet who clownfish is, Viv?
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Nup. I can’t fathom them. I’ve thought that some of them are actually one person posting with different monikers – always one word and comments are very similar. Anyway, do tell me Gerard.
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That’s right Viv. The language is like a signature, unmistakably pointing to the single person but under many monikers. There are a few that do that.
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But Gerard, do you know WHO clownfish is? An aspiring Young very right wing Liberal in NSW?
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So who is it gerard? You can’t back out now, especially with your skills of detecting rhythm, cadence and syntax.
C’mon, were all agog?
Is it…..mmmmmm Peter Rieth??
or. mmm…Craig Thomson?
Oh no, it’s not….big fanfare….Joe Tripodi?
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Well I say thank goodness there is only one Waterloo Sunset. Being unique is good and honest. 🙂
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I’m still treading water – writing to Hung (below), while I wait for gerad to share this gossip.
I’ll have to confess to not really having read much by Clownfish, as I tend to react to opposite points of view.
if you notice in The Drum, right wingers very, very rarely accolade each other. i don’t respond, or write to Custard, spud or….whomever. it’s just not in our nature. We are completely independent, with differing views and thoughts. That’s what I like about being on the right. There is just no regimentation.
I say this most politely 🙂
And PS, please, plaese if any of the 400,000 people that have logged in (whethrere it be from Iceland or Monrovia), don’t be afraid to air your views. i know it seems one sided, however that’s only an educational disparity (excepting the boss and atomu, of course – their 120IQers). 🙂
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They are…….of course!
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That’s on the The Woodcock-Johnson III NU Tests ….NOT the Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scale Fifth Edition 🙂
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Oh fuck, I’m bored with this. It’s like waiting for a train. You just klnow it’s gonna be late – or not even arrive 🙂
I say this most politely, BTW.
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There is little point in reading anything from those right wingers like clownfish et al. They just snipe as us lefty ‘luvvies’. They have little of any real comment but while they don’t comment on each other they attack like a pack. Sorry you haven’t noticed that Jules. Still, the other day Big Joe agreed with a comment on mine – he singled me out! I felt almost honoured. It’s happened once before. 🙂
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I think the answer Jules is that they are one and same person. I don’t think Gerard has any further insight.
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Good to see Big M, Algernon and ato stick it up ’em on the Julian Burnside blog at the Drum. The Pigs Arms rises as one.
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http://pabloic.deviantart.com/art/Pig-Power-207220486
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It’s kids art you know. Deviant art
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Do you mean all snouts – or just the usual 5 or 6? Or all of The Icelandic members 😉 ?
I ask most politely.
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I’m heading off to get in the trough now !
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All of us JL, we are in this together. simile
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Plus, we have disparate views in here.
And if we are kinder we may attract more 🙂
I love old Rod. makes me homesick for the old Kings rd days.
We shared a few jars.
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And remember to be kinder yourself Jules. I know you are capable of it. 🙂
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I remember when he was a kinder person.
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Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow
of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath
borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how
abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at
it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know
not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your
gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment,
that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one
now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen?
Now get you to my lady’s chamber, and tell her, let
her paint an inch thick, to this favour she must
come; make her laugh at that.
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Every picture tells a story JL, fantastic album.
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