The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.
NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.
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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off. Like a sack of prawn heads in the sun. Something had to be done.
Moderation was taking forever. Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged. When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !
So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit. And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.
As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire. And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.
So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog. Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity. Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.
And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments. Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.
Cheers,
Emm.
Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
The removal of Cazo and his comments from this site is an act of the most egregious kind and worthy of the most profound condemnation.
The owner of this blog can do as he likes and he can wear the consequences of his decisions. But that privilege should rest only with him and, if this blog is to function properly, no one else should assume it. Not only it is a usurpation of that privilege, it is also a recipe for anarchy. For disaster.
For quite a while now I wondered what the point of this blog is. Where is it headed? What is its place? Do I fit in, am I welcomed? How can engage?
And every time I come up with one answer it is blown up by exactly the sort of bizarre goings on as we are witnessing right now!
For shit’s sake, engage with the views, not the viewer! Engage with the opinion, not its maker! How difficult can this be?
How difficult can it be to heed Gillard’s exhortation: Don’t write crap!
Nothing wrong with a vigorous exchange of ideas and the whole of the English lexicon may be brought into use but, the exchange should be directed at the ideas expressed and not at the person, no matter how obvious the character of that person might be and how much you think s/he deserves your most strenuous insults.
It is now getting quite sickening an, if I may, this should be done, tout de fucking suite:
1. Cazo and his comments should be reinstated
2 Cazo should receive at least one apology from whoever removed him and his comments and one from hph who has been awarded immunity from base insults.
3 Mike should pull his finger out and make some decisions. This is said with the understanding that, due to work commitments or illness, he might not be able to get here immediately. But he should draw some lines and the consequences to those who break them.
4 Moderators should know the parameters of their responsibilities and not act beyond them without Mike’s expressed approval.
5 Commenters should be commenting on issues and not on personalities.
For fuck’s sake, grow up!
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I’ve written about this – this morning – did you see my comment Ato? Carisbrooke was here last night. He is now Panna Cotta, i.e. he is still here. I have no idea what is going on or whether or not someone is fiddling with the posts.
As to what the Pub is for – well the suggestions are clearly there for all to see, as written by the owner. The Dump (here) should be kept for matters now on the Drum. We ought to use the Dot for other rambling (weather, tomatoes, the farmers’ market, new babies). Things do get a bit jumbled up. Everyone ought to refresh their minds as to what is for what and where. Then they should remember to have a go at submitting their own article for discussion or just information even.
In the end we should all avoid nasty provocation.
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“I have no idea what is going on or whether or not someone is fiddling with the posts.” Do you care?
For the record, I care and I’m totally in support of the spirit of atomou’s utterances above.
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Totally unrelated, Voice, but I saw the sign while I was helping Nordi set up his Guardian account. If there’s anything behind or underneath it I haven’t investigated yet. Budgeting my internet time. Work deadlines. I shouldn’t even be here today.
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I didn’t ask ‘Do you care?’ Voice. It should have been obvious that I cared. I’m trying to make it clear that I see no point in resurrecting a grievance. I don’t carry on about something regardless of how much insult was flung. It’s done and dusted, in the past and should stay there.
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Yes, it was me who asked if you care, not you. That’s why the quotation marks ended beforehand.
Maybe it should have been obvious you care about someone fiddling with the posts, but it wasn’t obvious to me. I don’t think you made it obvious either – you just said it without giving your opinion on whether it should or should not happen. That’s not like you.
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I know that but your implication was that I did not care. Too smart but not really to the point either. I was stating that I have no knowledge if this is true or not. Bit like all those Liberals who keep saying their comments get censored by the ABC because the ABC don’t approve of rightwingers etc yet their comment sits there in print and usually with more insults. Either way, don’t try to tie me up in semantic knots.
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Implication schimplication. You seemed (to me) not to care. That jarred so I asked. You said you DO care. Misunderstanding over. I agree with you. I think it’s pretty crap deleting other people’s comments, blog owner aside, and even then I think it should be up front and open.
Smart? Liberals? Semantic knots? You’ve left me behind.
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Well that’s a change. Seems we can both be obscure ( 🙂 ) . Basically I am not going to make in depth comment on something which I don’t know to have actually happened on the basis of one person saying it happened to him (hence my ref to Libs/ABC/Drum). I’d care if it was true. What I care more about is what I have said twice – the original ‘insult’ is in the past and that’s where it should remain, not resurrected.
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Well, that’s one thing sorted Vivienne. But as for “the past”. It was only 2 days before Julian erupted that hph posted his latest insult along the family funeral lines.
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Errm – it was the 23rd January.
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When hph posted his latest insult along the family funeral lines*. 2014/01/30 at 11:22 pm
*The latest one at the time I wrote the comment, anyway.
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Perhaps if you didn’t see it, that explains why you don’t have a problem with it.
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If Julian has has been removed or blocked from posting then that is a sad and unnecessary escalation here. Jules might be a pedant and often passive aggressive here but he does add to the richness of the PA If I have a beef here and have said often a piece for comment would be good.
That hph whoever he/she is is allowed to dish out bile and attack Jules as they do with impunity is wrong. Either they back off or piss off!
By and large I agree with you Ato.
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I think you belong. As Hung’s friend said it’s ‘too in’ without a bit of variety. You’re one my preferred commentors. I admire your repeated stands against authoritarian tendencies, even when the authoritarians ‘are on your side’ politically.
I do feel for Mike. Everyone requesting he intercede. It must be such a hassle. It was funny as hell when it blew up in Oct 13 and everyone was calling on him like some saint or demi-god. We all assumed his omniciensce. And it seems he wasn’t even watching.
I was tempted to submit and article ‘On the Nature of Emmjay’ based on the various assumptions people make about his characther and assumed omnisieince. But thought it might be too forward.
An avuncular figure willing to concede a point but always prodding us towards better standards of behavior.
A patron saint that if prayed to may intercede on the behalf of the offended.
A playful woodland daemon who delights in breaking the rules he has set.
A mysterious and capricious Greek god lurking behind the veil in his temple who might to arbitrarily emerge and strike down any who offend him.
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And – loving it! (Get Smart the American TV Spy Show for all those culturally deprived souls who don’t recognise the quote.)
Power/responsibility. If they could be uncoupled how much more fun would it all be.
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Get Smart and loving it
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🙂 🙂 🙂
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Don’t know how to embed. Hope this works.
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Thanks for the chuckle.
I don’t know how NOT to embed. Ya copies yer link and the blasted wordpress software shows the youtube video whether or not you want it to. Your link is the clue, obviously; I might come back and look at it later.
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Unfortunately it’s a bit like Heathrow airport here today so I can’t engage as immediately as I would like and with the alacrity your comments demand -alas!
“A mysterious and capricious Greek god lurking behind the veil in his temple who might to arbitrarily emerge and strike down any who offend him.”
Those gods who acted like this, SM, were put on Aristophanes’ stage the very next festival and made fun of by getting him drunk, making him wear phalluses over their heads and parading them down the red districts of Athens. Gods may have had their caprices indulged but they knew the consequences. It wasn’t cruel, it wasn’t even insulting but it was a tit for a nipple!
There is still time for that article on Emmjay’s nature -or perhaps natures- SM and I, for one would love to read it. It would remind me of the wonderful Uni days at the Classics when at the end of each year we had a review, spawned mainly by the “natures” of various lecturers or tutors. They were undisputably enjoyable.
Vivie, yes, I’ve read your observations and I concur. However that wasn’t the central focus of my lament. It is the fact that posters can be arbitrarily removed by shadowy tricks employed in shadow puppetry. It is the fact that this blog has become flakey and dodgy. It is the fact that people insult people with immunity. It is the fact that more posts and comments are concerned with insulting people than discussing issues.
We can talk about anything and argue as lustily as we wish about any and every thing. The lustier, the more vigorous, the more intense the discussion the better because the more it evokes our intelligence. Let there be lusty discussion on anything and everything – but let it be free of insults, especially wrongful allegations, even more so allegations of such an intensely personal matter as how one grieves the death of one’s mother. Had not some moron done this already with Gillard’s father, and had we not learnt something about the moral protocols that govern this behaviour?
We need new people to not simply window shop here but to actually contribute: to buy, to sell, to exhibit, to bring in their lovers and their mothers, their pets and their tomatoes. It’s not going to happen if all we -WE- are doing here, is behave with total disregard and disdain to those moral protocols.
And alge, yes, someone has removed Cazo’s ID and comments. They should be restored immediately, the perpetrator should apologise and the insults and wrongful allegations made against Cazo should be removed. It’s not good enough to simply let them stay in the archives. Why should they? They are highly offensive and, if they should be removed when they were first made, then that imperative still stands: Remove the bloody things and let us all, together, move on, onto bigger and better things, of which I am most certain we are fully capable!
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I’ll have to accept that that has happened, I have no access to who is and isn’t blocked.
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Divide and Rule (or Conquer)
The policy of maintaining control over one’s subordinates or opponents by encouraging dissent between them, thereby preventing them from uniting in opposition.
“The politics of divide and rule in society”
Grrrr…
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My knowledge of the Childrens Crusades is sketchy. But I think following is basically true. A contingent reached a port city seeking passage to the Holy Lands. Genoa I think. The Genoese patiently heard them out. They explained to the children that (I’m rendering this in colloquial Australian and paraphrasing) in blindly following dickheads they themselves were starting to act like dickheads. They gave the kids food and lodgings, a kick up the bum and sent them home.
Good for the Genoese! Other contingents reached less friendly ports and were sold into slavery (by dickheads).
Pity more people didn’t practice Genoa style division.
I’m dissapointed as such a Hess fan you’re so opposed to the politics of detachment. He expressed opposition to anti-Semetism. He aided Brecht’s flight into exile.
Never expressly condemned Nazism.
I prefer his later poems. Which I read in an edition with German and English versions on facing pages. They introspective. They dealt with his character flaws, aging and depression. He seems to have a sense of his own ridiculousness. A quality I always admire in people. As Socrates suggests increased cultivation should make one doubt him/herself more. Hess got it.
One of the poems mentions friends condemning him because his later poems are too introspective and negative. They preferred the power of Steppenwolf.
Introspection is difficult. Its not pretty to look at. Especially when it involves real self-criticism. Am I being a dickhead?, is too hard a question for many. Not for Hess though.
Justification and blaming everyone else is much easier.
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In fact it seems the Children’s Crusades never happened. Thank you wikipedia. Great story though. I was relying on Vonnegut’s account in ‘Slaughterhouse Five’.
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12. Mumbles into his beard as his head nods progressively lower.
But I take your point, and if I might have some minor issues with its delivery I very much accept that we are all entitled to our own style.
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I can’t fathom what you few are on about. Panna Cotta etc etc. If you don’t like some comment and want it gone why are you putting it up again and again. It could remain in the archives where it winds up gone from sight. But you resurrect it. Someone isn’t well. Don’t post late at night. Tired and stressed – all leads to nonsense. Darn stupid string of garbage frankly. Just let it be.
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Yes but…
There are two tangoing. He’s clearly gone loco but lets not single him out. The sledge he received was a big one and below the belt. A lot of people would react as strongly.
If you’re going to name him, name his interlocutor who seems to have started at an ill-considered comment and instead of backing down or (heaven forbid) apologising has upped the ante.
Random observation. Lindy Chamberlan spent years in gaol because the mob considered she was not conforming to their expectations of what grief looks like.
Random observation. Tony Abbott was deemed a disgusting sub-human because of his Bernie Banton comments.
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It’s OK, Sea, I’m not actually loco.
I’m just pointing out hypocrisy and stupidity.
You know, like the long story about how one can tell from their IPs that nomme de guerre may use the same IP.
So presumably, you are Voice. According to the law of moderation?
One can feel sorry for someone as disturbed as hph is; exhibiting stalking and vilification traits. However what about the moderation.
If I was a moderator, that comment would have been struck off, instead of being left to fester…It isn’t an indictment of me.
I’m comfortable now I have made a stand for justice – and will regale my friend at The farmer’s market.
Perhaps ask them to join in the discussion…I doubt they would of course.
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“I doubt they would of course.”
They standards are higher than insulting people’s families!
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Okay, Jules, in regards to that grievance…
I have noted over the years the tendency of ‘Children’s Crusades’ to form around certain individuals. Of course the children do all the dirty work.
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I might add that the mob considered itself morally superior and well rounded emotional beings whilst condemning an innocent grieving mother with their prejudice.
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I think that you can (fathom), however are criticising the victim – and appearing to support the insult?
I’m off to The farmer’s market, where there’s fresh air and reasonable, empathetic Australians.
I’m Julian BTW, Panna Cotta is defacto, since Carisbrooke can’t post – unlike the perpetrator of the insulting bullying…..Which you haven’t criticised, although, originally Algernon, Big M and atomou did. Interesting.
Why should “I” let it go, when it could be moderated, just as Voice’s postes are stripped from currency, when she shows decent about a point of view.
I’m making a stand for decency and family values.
You seem to have a nice family Viv. So do I. and I don’t want vilification approved by moderators.
Is there anything vague about what I have written?
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Give him something, Viv.
For me I could forgive the initial sledge as overexcitement if hph showed contrition or just had the decency to lay low and cop the flak.
Instead he upped the ante with the ‘I showed more respect…’ BS.
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To be fair Jules I’m sitting on the sidelines disgusted at what I’m seeing here. I think however you celebrated your mothers passing and whatever you did on the day of the funeral is up to you and no one else’s business. From your writings she’d have approved.
On this line of attack from hph, I stand with you, but I’m not going to get into a slanging match with everyone hurling abuse at each other. hph I recently asked you to back off. Now I’m asking you to stop, you’re carrying on like a dick. You’re not winning any friends by this level of attack and trolling.
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I’m with you Algernon, not my fight but pretty disgusted.
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I just butted out of it – past experience is that it just makes matters worse and although I probably have had a weird written relationship with you Jules I think you could say I just get on with it and I expect much the same with you. You give as good as you get yourself. How you or I take the perceived insult seems to vary a lot. I have, btw, no idea of who is being moderated out/cut off etc from posting comments here. In fact, I didn’t think anything was moderated. Some string was withdrawn after a lot of complaints and OTT stuff and that’s all I recall. It’s in the past, leave it there.
I’ve never regarded the Pub as a forum like The Drum, SMH or IA etc. A place, rather, where mainly like minded meet and chat about many topics, including the weather and how our tomatoes are going. There is a lot of funny banter and stuff put up which one would never find anywhere else on the web. To me it is a special joint, a Pub !
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PS – I don’t support any personal insults. Trouble might be though that we all have a slightly different view of what is ‘personal’ !
I’m putting on the ear phones now to do another transcribing job. I’ll pop back in every now and then when my neck and head need a rest.
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Agree 100% about the subjective nature of what constitutes personal.
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I think you’ve glossed over Julian’s wider point here, Algy, SO, and SM. Yes he objects to filth about his family, but what he’s particularly objecting to is the way the filth is dealt with after it’s been posted. Occasional filth is an inevitability, what makes or breaks the blog as a place to visit is how it’s dealt with.
Algy, sadly this level of attack isn’t stopping hph from winning friends – one or two people including yourself, yes.
It’s to your credit doing what you can to address this particular brand of filth by this particular commenter, but it’s a broader issue that needs to be addressed in the long term by the blog owner.
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BS voice, Jules gives as good as he takes. Do not for a moment assume whom I am and not friends with here. There are many whose comments I agree with there are many I don’t. There are some who I choose not to engage with, you happen to be one of them.
I have no idea who hph is, whether they are an individual or someone with multiple psued’s. I have not replied to any of hph’s posts as a result of their treatment of Jules and have no intention of doing so until all this is resolve.
Keep your twisted reverse logic to yourself.
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It isn’t clear exactly what you’re objecting to here, Algy, but your policy of non-engagement is exercised in a surprising way. Over to you.
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“It isn’t clear exactly what you’re objecting to here, Algy” Well why doesn’t that surprise.
“Algy, sadly this level of attack isn’t stopping hph from winning friends – one or two people including yourself, yes” smart arse line thrown in for the sake it I suppose.
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I’m guessing it’s the bit after the dash that’s the problem? If so I’m happy to withdraw it. Intended harmlessly and still looks harmless to me, but what the heck, I’m not interested in endlessly analyzing how you might have taken offense unless you feel it’s important and are genuinely interested in clearing up the misunderstanding.
I stick with “sadly this level of attack isn’t stopping hph from winning friends” though. I think it’s crap (Helvi) praising hph after he’s done something like that without a fitting apology, and crapper (for gerard) to delete Carisbrooke’s comments objecting to it yesterday after hph continued on the same theme, only worse.
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Fair enough, but all my comments have been in plain English so there is no confusion. Also I’ve thrown weight behind Jules in this battle or have you not noticed. If “Carrisbrook” has been blocked why and who has done that and no I’m not looking for the name here, and for what purpose.
As for helvi, gerard and your difference that is for the three of you to resolve it has nothing to do with me.
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“Why”? I’m not a mind-reader but given it was while Julian’s objections to hph were being removed it has something to do with that.
Deleting other people’s comments without warning and with no comment at the time – crappy.
We see the difference thing differently. Whether or not I have differences with someone (and clearly I’m disgusted about the ongoing Sea Mendez is Voice thing and the nastiness around it), if they do a crappy thing, it’s crappy.
I appreciate the fair enough though. It’s fair.
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Hang on, today isn’t the first time I’ve spoke up about hph’s treatment of Jules and their endless barking about his mother, I’ve expressed my disgust before, If I recall I asked them to back off, which they did for about a nanosecond. The deleting isn’t on either.
Oh I’ve never thought you were Sea Mendez either.
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One could just leave sleeping dogs lie. Insults? Filth? Offence? Hurt? Petitions on Change Org to send on to poor Mike? In terms of time on blogs I really thought it was history.
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What a selfish rift you have created, gerard, by making sure that the post stays up.
It would have been so simple to behave as a decent human being.
It certainly isn’t a good look for you.
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Was it worth it, one has to ask? Defending The PA, when the moderator who’s wife I defended, agrees with disgusting personal abuse, involving patron’s deceased members.
I’ll leave it to others to decide. I haven’t noticed any comments yet?? This is fan exchange from me to the ‘old Hung!
On 27/11/2011 8:10 PM, Vectis lad wrote:
We don’t all agree. I have had many arguments.
Warrigal and atomou have ignored me, sometimes for weeks on end. And they have insulted me.
I couldn’t care.
But the new guy J.G. Cole seems interesting—so why insult him? We need people like him.
That’s not gonna build up more patrons. If variety is what you want.
Really I don’t know why more writers haven’t joined in. However, sometime it takes a while and then there is a break through. J. G, might invite someone.
From: Mark (sir name an email deleted)
Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2011 7:07 PM
To: Vectis Lad
Subject: Re: Stuff
On 27/11/2011 7:07 PM, Vectis Lad wrote:
I see!
However, it must be upsetting him to see you writing Fuck all over the place.
Mike doesn’t really have anything to do with your personal life Mark?
You’re alienating people who do care, regardless of whether you believe me, or not.
I mean you have known some of these people’s ‘minds’ for about four years now.
If you’re angry with Mike, why insult Voice & Helvi. Helvi is an old lady.
Insult me. I couldn’t care, if it helps you to let off steam. None of us can do much really. So it seems a bit pointless.
Do you want to burn us?
Julian
From: Mark (sir name and email deleted)
Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2011 6:13 PM
To: Vectis Lad
Subject: Re: Stuff
On 27/11/2011 6:28 PM, Vectis Lad wrote:
What’s up mate?
Nuffing, just proving Mike Jones is a prick with ears, cut me out of the Arms without explanation, proving to him I can still post on his site whatever I like, Administrator one day nothing the next, no explanation, sure my post have been bad but hey I can still keep doing them, Mike himself rarely visits the site, he is a hypocrite
You are all burnt Julian. I did nothing to jeapadise( can’t spell that word) the Arms except post my inner thoughts and reveal a dark and tragic tale. In the early days I encouraged friends to visit the Arms who reported back that it was too “in” and that everyone just agreed with everyone else.
Another issue is reverse racism which shits me big time. This happens when new Australians refer back to the “good old country” and yet when you you visit the “good old country” you see for yourself that the “good old country” is full of problems. Helvi denied a rift between the Flemish and the Dutch, the rest of the world knows it is there, proving beyond doubt she is a hypocrite and open to criticism. I speak my mind and use colourful language, if you don’t like it then I’m sorry but you will always know where you stand with Hung One On.
I will die alone and the sooner the better, no I won’t kill myself but I have nothing to live for. My wife stayed with me this weekend and it was wonderful however we will never get back together. Yes I am bitter however I will continue to dish it out to any one that deserves it, even you, an internet friend that I rate really highly, a good man, of opposing political views who has a good outlook of life. A guy who has been through some of the bad times that I have experienced.
Peace brother
Hung
JG is big enough and old enough to stand on his own. Again I say if we are all just going to be really nice to each other what is the point. You are the best thing that happened to the Arms as you are politically different to the rest of us, except Voice. We need you you more than a syncopant like Helvi or JG. Yes we need those two to debate but imagine The Arms without you, totally soulless. And for fuck sake if any one is so thin skinned they can’t take some abuse well what are they doing there any way.
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By Zeus, I love the word “syncopant!”
Absolutely gorgeous, Hungsie! It takes a muso to come up with such brilliant malapropisms!
Love it to death. Any copyrights attached to it?
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Thanks ato, I love them. I’m sorry Julian saw fit to use me to make things better. When you are in a bad space everything is bad. That is over now and I believe the Pigs Arms will be closed. What a shame.
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Oh well. Seeing as how the The Dump is about to be closed for good Nordi wants to show off some of his best ideas that were rejected by The Drum. On his behalf:
” The key variable in sustaining a population is sunshine. And unfortunately the cold weather means we need to keep our pants on. So the stuff that shines out our backsides is inaccessable. So even though we have space, rainfall and rich soils we can’t sustain a larger population.”
“I reject any notion that Europe or Scandanavia has reduced its carbon pollution due to reduced economic output. I resent the very idea that Norway holds some responsibility for its oil exports. Scandanavia has introduced many innovative schemes. For example they now all wear nighties. Instead of reading by electric light before bed, they place their books on the floor – squat over them – and read by the renewable lightsource that emits from their rear ends. It is really quite touching to see families reading together like this.”
In response to some impertinent posters who claimed tens of thousands immigrate from Scandanavia many motivated by the cold:
“There are no Scandanavians here. I have Scandanavian friends here. I am a Scandanavian.”
“No true Scandanavian would migrate to Australia.”
“Rubbish! The warmth of generated by our pure and loving hearts is warmth enough for Scandanavians. In any case any society has a convict scum element. It is natural to pack them off to Australia to be with their friends!”
He tried that one again. Deleted the convict reference but added the suggestion that mods had chips on their shoulders because of their convict heritage. Failed.
Generally they won’t touch anything that contains a reference to a political dream he has called Greater Scandanavia. Or the idea that it should be expanded by armed fit young nordic ‘Ambassadors’ and ‘Teachers’ in long boats.
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He also briefly had one up the Guardian at a tongue in cheek article about how things aren’t all they’re cracked up to be in Scandanavia.
‘This is pure jealously. You Anglos are intrinsically racist. This is due to inherited gene damage caused by your bland foodstuff. We have been trying to improve you since our attempted Danelaw liberation and you just keep throwing it in our faces! Such bile! Somedays I just want to give up the internet!”
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Different cracks altogether up that end of the planet!
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Olé!
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night night, Jules. I’m going to watch a movie. 🙂
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Fight your own battles.
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hph says:
February 1, 2014 at 9:12 pm
(A massage to the Moderator:)
Dear Mr. Moderator,
We see who is calling the shots in here now. In league with the moderator yeah?
I bet he’s thrilled about that exposure. Poor bastard.
Mind you, he could have deleted you stupid, insulting comments about my family.
They are all quite shocked. However asked me what I am doing, conversing with a fucking moron!
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Were you in the same asylum, as your friend in here?
Or are you him?
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“I’ve got weeks and have been known to wait years to get justice.”
ooooooo………. I am shaking in my Aboots
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Still there?
Fuck off you cunt.
With your friends..ha ha ha
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Look at the bright side.
After they lock you up in a rubber-padded-room, someone, somewhere, is going to sit down and start writing a book about you.
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Ok, we’ll have rest and come back later.
perhaps one of the others would like to comment on what’s going on in here?
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RE: My family’s comments by hph:
Do you want another 1000 messages Mike?
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(A massage to the Moderator:)
Dear Mr. Moderator,
Please, allow Mr. Carisbrook to post whatever insults he throws at me.
Best Regards
– Ps – Unless of course if he is offending the sensibilities of other visitors on this site.
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🙂
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The insults aren’t for you. You fucking dpope. You a moron.
they are registering my displeasure at any Australian blog allowing your ridiculous personal comments.
You are beyond help. Just a stupid wanker
The moderator is making a fool of him/her self for allowing it. that’s that sad bit.
You’re just a piece of flotsam, that should find another home.
I’ve got weeks and have been known to wait years to get justice.
I can’t imagine that The PA wants another 1000 messages from me asking them to stop posting messages about my family, Can you fucking twerp?
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Why don’t you go out for a jog and cool off…
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“I paid more respect to your dead mother more than you ever did.
Now put this in your pipe and smoke it, you filthy mouth !
It’s still there gerad. Is that what Mike wants you to do?
Lampoon the dead and their family.
You’re on probation here I think.
Ooops, unless anyone things that I am wrong and you should leave this foul comment up?
You know what is amazing, and that is all of the information, about your family and brothers who have struggled, Asty and everyone else, that has mention things over the years – and no one would make fun or mention. Especial not me. my breeding wouldn’t let me.
So what are you going to do Gerard, wait till Mike takes it down, or leave it up there, making yourselves look foolish to anyone else that logs in?
All your stupid pretence of being caring. What a load of rubbish – as everyone can see.
Julian
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So is hph one of your pseudo gerad, is tha why your banning me anf not him, mor is it because he licks you arse and sends you smilies.
I though that you liked swearing, a few weeks ago you wrote fuck & cunt. i though that you woould prefer that to insulting dead peolpe.
Obviously I am wrong and you are – ‘now’ – -showing the true Oosterman values.
i’ll stop when you take his comment down – which you should have done without asking.
Perhaps shoe and Algernon agree with you leaving the comment up there from that wanker hph?
To be honest, I would never have thought so in a million years.
Is it gone now
Or do I ahve to come back with another pseud?
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That night the Hunter was really, really angry and resolved that he would get the Bear no matter what.
This time he brought an M60. He went to the same spot and waited until the bear appeared by the stream. He fired off fifty rounds. When the smoke cleared, he couldn’t see the bear.
Then there was a tap, tap, tap on his shoulder. “You tried to shoot me didn’t you?”
The Hunter Gulped. “Yes, I’m afraid I did.”
The Bear thought for a moment then said, “You don’t come here for the hunting, do you?”
🙂
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You’re such a dopey prat aren’t you? Why don’t you go over to gerad’s blog?
he seems to like insulting fucking wankers like you.
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C’mon moderator, you’re always on about human rights and how sanctified you are?
What are you doing leaving up insults to people’s dead mothers?
Are you wrong in the head too?
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hph says
What ?
The cat got your filthy tongue ?
And you can get rid of this while you’re at it!
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The whole blog can see that you’ve left up the previous cooment about my mother. it’s on the previous page?
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You are loosing it slowly 🙂 it is addressed to the *something else* Not you 🙂
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“I’ll concede I’m amongst the worst offenders.”
An offender telling an *assumed* offender not to offend….!!!
Confucius say…When called an Hypocrite sometimes is better to be quiet than to open mouth and remove all doubt.
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I’d suggest thats an perceptive I have over you, hph. I know I’m a jerk.
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No, no, you are wrong! You are not a Jerk. You are *something else* and I made it clear to you on few occasions. I won’t let you go that easily.
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I’m quaking my boots…
I don’t think you have made it clear. I dont know what your talking about.
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When it’s deleted, I’ll be saytisfied, otherwise it stands as a beacon of bad moderating.
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You don’t ?
I thought, above, you meant you were more perceptive than I am !
How about that !
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That’s Tony Abbott 🙂
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”
“I paid more respect to your dead mother more than you ever did.
Now put this in your pipe and smoke it, you filthy mouth !”
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Let’s see what the moderators do?
Leave your insane insult up, or moderate my swearing. I’ll see what they are mad e of and what’s going on.
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A new baby in our midsts!
Last night a little boy emerged from its warm cocoon to join us out here, under the rays and the light of the sun and the flutter of the sweet breezes. Amongst us and amongst the rest of the hustling and bustling life on this planet!
The magical event, the most moving, most emotional event possible, happened around 4.30 this morning.
Welcome to the world, young man!
May the air around you be full of the deepest love, may your body grow strong and healthy, may your heart be compassionate and your mind wise and may your every minute be a minute you cherish!
Congratulations to mum and dad for this magical achievement!
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Congratulations Ato. First grandchild?
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Thanks Vivie. Not a grand child of our own, in that it’s not the child of one of our daughters but one of our nephews, which makes him a second. The first was a girl, from another nephew, this one, a boy from that nephew’s brother. In other words, my sister’s grandkids.
Alas, our two have been thoroughly disillusioned with their men. No serious relationships, no prospects for grandkids in the foreseeable! 😦
But little Johnny is our brand new, shiny, sparkling gem!
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Best of British Ato.
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Oh well, if it happens it happens. Meanwhile the grandnephew and niece will give you plenty of excuses to cook up a storm in another Greek celebration.
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Yes, congratulations on the nephew. All went brilliant, no doubt, thanks to you!
I saw a few new lives today, funny how they unfold themselves, then start to squark!!
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Gerard, I’m getting tired of these people. I would like to read one of your black-comedy articles… you know, like that one with the jogger hopping around you and you turning with him at the same time. 🙂
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Well it is hot as you know what here – 43c now, day after day again. My lemons are dropping off the trees, the birds are hanging out on the verandah again, the sheep are sticking to the shade and only roaming for food in the evening, most of the tele is crap, all the news is crap and to cap it off some bastard nearly burnt down an IGA owned by friends on mine. Business stuffed for at least 6 weeks.
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3 days of 40 plus here Viv.
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Hang in there, dear Vivienne, we are all on same raft:) I wish I had some cool news for you. This IGA fire- was it an accident or deliberate ?
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Deliberate. Lit around 12.30 am. The store has been the target of thieves often. Broken windows and doors an break-ins. It is located unfortunately close to an area which has known little crims. Not all that far from my fishmonger, near a pub – but they target IGA for cigs and grog usually. This time it’s a shocker.
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Looks like you need a new Sheriff in town …and a new Judge.
I’ll be the new sheriff. Hung will be the hanging judge.
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Sheriff HPH & Judge HUNG
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Could be a new title for a song:)
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You bring em in hph and I’ll hang em.
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HOO – we seem to have much the same weather, especially all summer.
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It’s terrible here Viv. Now I have central air con so inside my home it is 23 but it is so awful outside I wished I lived somewhere else. Tutu and I are considering moving to Batemans Bay to retire in about 5 years or so. Bring it on.
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Bermagui is nice too. I thought you were a mere 50 – retiring early?
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Lover Bermagui Viv, Tutu and her family would go there Christmas each year. Her and I and the boys had a fabulous holiday once at Wallaga Lake. Would love to be 50 again I’m 56 and Tutu is a bit older. 🙂
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43c here – air con struggling a bit. Best spot is in the main bedroom – Lola is there. Smart dog.
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PS: Me and Algernon are born in the same year but I am a little earlier than him and that’s why some times in posts I refer to him as Young man but I usually call him Ace because that is what he is.
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Will you take up surfing, again, Hung?
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No, but swimming and body surfing for sure. Tutu wants to retire in about 7 or 8 years but will keep working part time.
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Oops I will keep working part time
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I hurt you good the first time.
How about the second time?
The man who gets bit twice by the same dog is better adapted for that kind of business than any other.
Josh Billings
(1818-1885) humorist
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woof woof
🙂
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Idiocy and delusion! A match made in god’s own junkyard!
woof woof!
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There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell.
…founded upon fables and mythologies.
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Oh, I dunno, you seem to be battling with thousands of them, hph!
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Ahhh, you see… now you are learning something, Atomou. Look into yourself, too.
First, discover the dogs and the demons within yourself; before calling someone else a “dog”
When you do, come back to me.
I will teach you how to tame Dogs & Demons. 🙂
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No dogs nor demons around here, hp and I doubt muchly you have tamed your menagerie!
BTW, you had me chuckling last night with your exhortation, ‘But you hide it so well with your “Classics”‘ reminded me so much of that other one made to me by your leash tugger, “go and learn about mythology!” or some such turn of phrase! Man alive, as the guy on the japanese cooking show says, you guys can get a man drop his stitches with your funnies!
Just couldn’t sleep a wink last night after that one!
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Don’t bulldust me, Atomou. I can read you. I know the reason why you couldn’t sleep a wink last night. But don’t worry. You weren’t the only one:)
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I see some fairly vile sexual harassment was directed at Voice here the other day. It was quite an escalation of the she-can’t-get-a-man sledge she’s worn (an I’ve worn on her behalf) from compassionate super humans over the years. And plugged right into the misogynist trope that women behave better when men ‘attend’ to them regularly. It does provoke a thought that fascinates me. (Please recall that I chastised Jules for calling someone a bitch here).
How can one write stuff like that and then get offended at being told they’re barking?
How can one write stuff like that and then say, nay believe, they are some kind of uber-progressive and all round nice guy?
How can one write stuff like that and then lecture others on their lack of human feeling and bullying? Same goes for dictating how Jules should express his grief. Let it go, Champ. You’re making yourself look like a goose.
On the acrimony generally. How about the 700,000 visitors that allegedly visit this site per annum? Feast your eyes folks! The same (and I pause to regard myself in the mirror as I say this) idiots saying the same dickhead things over and over. I excuse Big M from that latter accusation. Most others are guilty to some extent. I’ll concede I’m amongst the worst offenders.
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Sorry I’m talking about the ‘rough men’ ‘one eyed monster comment’. Lots of stuff going on. Don’t want to confuse anyone.
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Correction : rough MAN
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SM, I think we all get on the turps, or flog down a bad pint (bloody Granny has brewed some Barry Crockers) and become belligerent. Thanks for bigging me up, though!
We should all (me included) pursue peace, love and beauty!
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You can think whatever you like, Atomou. “Thinking” is free…
It is a wonder how a person with a filthy mouth such as yours as well, lasted so long in an honorable profession of Teaching in Australia.
I feel sorry for your former students. You are a Fascist !
But you hide it so well with your “Classics”
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🙂
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Spend a little time on the word “fascist”. Give me its history, its etymology. Ask your favourite leash holder if you like. But come back fully cognisant of the word.
Read also a bit of Herodotus about the burial customs of the world.
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Take it up with him, if you don’t like what you are hearing:)
v:
28 Jan 2014 2:19:26pm
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One of the defining features of fascism is the promotion of an entirely false “national myth” which invariably looks back to an imagined “golden age”. Another defining feature of fascism is an emphasis on the ‘superman’ and the close association (inherited from ancient Greece) of physical prowess with moral and ethical virtue.
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Very low mark, hp.
Research the word “etymology” and rewrite your last sputum.
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I know you know that I cannot write with BIG WORDS, Atomou.
One of the personality traits of the closet- fascists is to talk over someones’s head with big words.
Human Nature has not changed much since man came down from the trees.
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