The Dump

The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.

NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.

give a crap

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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off.  Like a sack of prawn heads  in the sun.  Something had to be done.

Moderation was taking forever.  Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged.   When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !

So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit.  And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.

As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire.  And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.

So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog.  Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity.  Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.

And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments.  Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.

Cheers,

Emm.

15242 thoughts on “The Dump”

  1. Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

    Some cretin lit a fire in the Belair National Park cancelling our weekend. Bastard.

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  2. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Anybody here seen or read about the trucks of hay going to Burke for the drought stricken farmers. Organised by a bloke up the road from me. The hay gathering starts at Burrumbuttock – its a village much much smaller than mine, one primary school (award winning for its environmental transformation of a swamp into an eco centre), one pub, one general store/PO and about 40 houses.

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  3. sea monster's avatar sea monster said:

    Work experience mod was on today. I saw a ‘Your a tool…’ and a ‘thats why your a joke…’

    The war gamers at the whaling article were irking me. Send in the navy was annoying. Then the naive assumption that Japan would commit its entire fleet or even a sizable task force annoyed the hell out of me.

    I suspect Aus would win any confrontation in the Southern Ocean and I oughtta know. I used to play Jane’s Fleet Command.

    Reaver insisting on the legal over the ethical gets to me too.

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    • Hi sea, no sign of Mulga, these days.

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      • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

        Maybe he’s disillusioned.

        Remember when everyone was banging on about China and Cuba on Unleashed? Now you rarely hear Cuba mentioned. People aren’t nearly as positive about China anymore.

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        • Yeah, but he/she had something literate to say about everything;global warming ect.

          I know that I started this conversation,but have become engrossed in :Singing in The Rain”, on TCM.
          It was made in 1952. There is even a reference to Australia in it. Wouldn’t have though that they knew where it was. Well they might have know Errol Flynn came from there I suppose.

          Anyways, Mulga/Rave?Matthew something or other, couldn’t stop blogging it’s an addiction. A compulsion.

          Back to Gene Kelly and Debbie Reynolds, and the advent of the talkies (the theme).

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    • Not enough Israeli stories I suppose.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      I read the Sea Shepherd (stroke Whales) article and made one comment early in the piece. Did not revisit. Glad I didn’t – just speed read the comments and see a lot of garbage and some very strange stuff. Saw your effort SM – you were dealing with a crazy. The contortions some go through are beyond logic.

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  4. helvityni's avatar helvityni said:

    Hungie, you are a good bloke, have a lovely weekend away with Tutu…

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    • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

      Thanks H. It’s a lovely park 40 minutes from town and given it will be 40 here it will be much cooler up there. . We will do lots of walking, a swim or two, a few fine wines and BBQ’s but best of all I get to spend quality time with Tutu. Cheers from your Number 1 fan (Behind Gez of course) 🙂

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  5. http://www.cavssteakhouse.com/

    The other guys all get stuck into the red, so I have strawberries and cream – as I have to split the bill.

    I still come away about 15 bucks behind 🙂

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Sounds just terrific. A lot of the menu is my kind of tucker. Too many NZ wines on the list – I know there are some good wineries in Queensland. Nice to see a Tempranillo there – excellent red wine for summer drinking – goes well with prawns and calamari. Now I get the connection with Cav and Labrador – I thought you were just talking about dog breeds !

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    • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

      Feed the man meat JL. SA has a few wines on the list but I would never pay $80 for anything from Yalumba even though I like their stuff. . Tell your mates I would recommend any of the Wirra Wirra Reds especially if it is “Church Block”

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  6. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_Brown_Ale

    After 10 of these, S.Corby will look like Elle Mcwotsit

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  7. Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

    Just a warning to any of the Crew who ain’t over their outbursts the other night, you mess with Helvi, you mess with me. And I tell you what, I am big, nasty, horrible and evil however I like spinach quiche with a side salad and a glass of Sauv Blanc. Get it 🙂

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  8. Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

    No Helvi 😦

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  9. vivienne29 says:
    February 7, 2014 at 8:57 am

    Jules, you didn’t answer my question. Here’s another – do you ever use tomato paste?
    …………………………………………………………….
    Absolutely, it’s an essential for cooking.

    I buy the tubes, because I can reseal them by screwing the cap back on. They’re a bit like a toothpaste tube. I never buy big tubs or cans; it’s just a waste if you don’t use it up.

    Italian is the best, but I’m not fussy.

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  10. BTW, I just thought that everyone should know. I have changed my pseudonym.

    I’m using Jonathan Green, over at The Drum, and they’ve put up one of my articles

    I have got a fats track button for The Arms’ patrons. When you log in use the secret creat and you’ll go to the top.

    Good luck.

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  11. Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

    Shap Corby article

    Keep her locked up cause…

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  12. Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

    From the nut allergy piece

    “Put a bullet in her and shoot the bitch. Then the rest of us can get on with it.”

    Just can’t see this getting up somehow, hmm, maybe it’s me.

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  13. Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

    From Alan Colons piece, just can’t see it getting up

    I’m starting a new organisation that will lift the country, CAD, Coke and Dope. I have the backers from some leather clad gentleman, today Australia, tomorrow the World, next week, out of Space

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    • Carisbrooke's avatar Carisbrooke said:

      We had them up here Hung. They’ve been given their marcjing orders by Corporal Newman.

      Look out they might be looking for a new billet. mind you they won’t be so cashed up now – Paul Howes is cutting their rates. About time too.

      Good on him. He’s turned into a sensible human being.

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  14. Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

    In response to the nut allergy article, I have a lactose allergy therefore all lactose products must be removed from my workplace. For goodness sake.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Some might also say it’s nuts! The massive increase in this nut allergy thing needs scientific investigation, or something like that.

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    • Yes, some bloke was banging on about how his kid is soooo allergic that the slightest remnant of peanut oil on another kid’s skin can send him into anaphylaxis. I was always taught that immunoglobulins reacted to proteins, not lipids. Anyhoo, perhaps the kid shouldn’t eat the other kid’s sangers.

      I’m allergic to dairy proteins so, likewise my workplace should be dairy free!

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      • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

        I’m also allergic to Liberal Party voters. All Liberal Party voters should not be in my workplace.

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        • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

          I’m also allergic to po what poo [Mike Jones here: Now I am the sole administrator I will not allow Hung to say he is allergic to poonuts] Thanks Mikey. Ewe is my hero.

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        • I’m allergic to bullshit, but sometimes am up to my neck in it!

          At least I don’t have to stand on my head!

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        • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

          So you are allergic to yourself Sister? simile

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        • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

          Mike Jones here, sorry Hung you can’t say “simile” when you mean “smiley” Just testing my new power given to me by the Lord.

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        • Poo, bum, pubic hair!

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        • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

          Sorry Big M, Mike Jones here, you are no longer aloud( just love it) to say fuck shit or piss, whatever they mean, from now on we are a clean and wholesome website so even kiddies can come here, you know cute kiddies that want to sit on unkas lap [Hung here: Cut that out Mike you vagabond]

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        • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

          I’m sorry. Anyone that doesn’t laugh at this is dead. This is so funny. I haven’t laughed so loud in years.

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        • Carisbrooke's avatar Carisbrooke said:

          In the business that you work in, there must be some Liberals – surely?

          Somebody has to shoulder responsibility and be the employer.

          Is your employer a ratbag and a cheat, Hung?

          And if so, why not go into the public sector, they need experienced valuable professionals like you?

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        • Mr Carisbrrooke, I am passionate about what I do, but, unfortunately, there are no private Neonatal Intensive Care Units in Australia, so, I work in the public system. There are no liars or cheats running the place, and we do shoulder a hell of a lot of responsibility.

          Your attitude is typical of the small minded, ‘I run a pie shop’, Liberal voter!

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        • sea monster's avatar sea monster said:

          Big M I used to live in the same house as a NIC nurse. That was in the Camperdown days. Anyway a few times s/he left work with surgical scissors in her pockets! So don’t tell me there are no cheats!

          Those scissors are way cool by the way. Snaffled a pair myself!

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        • sea monster's avatar sea monster said:

          Now I’m feeling guilty. Maybe I should send them back…

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        • You butted in Big.

          I was addressing Mark, who told me that he worked in the private sector…Remeber?

          We all know where you work and what a stirling job you do.

          He was bring up the subject of Liberals. It never occurred to me that you would respond.

          I’m not sure that my attitude has anything to do with this conversation. Anyway, accept that you misunderstood, so it’s of no concern..

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        • Two doctors were in a hospital hallway one day complaining about Nurse Nancy.
          ” She’s incredibly mixed up,” said one doctor. “She does everything absolutely backwards.
          Just last week, I told her to give a patient 2 milligrams of morphine every 10 hours.
          She gave him 10 milligrams every 2 hours. He damn near died on us!”
          The second doctor said, “That’s nothing.
          Earlier this week, I told her to give a patient an enema every 24 hours.
          She tries to give him 24 enemas in one hour! The guy damn near exploded!”
          Suddenly, they hear this blood-curdling scream from down the hall.
          ” Oh my God!” said the first doctor, “I just realized I told Nurse Nancy to prick Mr. Smith’s boil!”

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        • A man goes to visit his 85-year-old grandpa in hospital.
          ” How are you grandpa? he asks.
          “Feeling fine,” says the old man.
          “What’s the food like?”
          “Terrific, wonderful menus.”
          “And the nursing?”
          “Just couldn’t be better. These young nurses really take care of you.”
          “What about sleeping? Do you sleep OK?”
          “No problem, nine hours solid every night. At 10 o’clock they bring me a cup of hot chocolate and a Viagra tablet … and that’s it. I go out like a light.”
          The grandson is puzzled and a little alarmed by this, so rushes off to question the Sister in charge. “What are you people doing,” he says,
          ” I’m told you’re giving an 85-year-old Viagra on a daily basis. Surely that can’t be true?”
          “Oh, yes,” replies the Sister. “Every night at 10 o’clock we give him a cup of hot chocolate and a Viagra tablet. It works wonderfully well. The chocolate makes him sleep, and the Viagra stops him from rolling out of bed

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        • A new nurse listened while the doctor was yelling, “Typhoid! Tetanus! Measles!”
          The new nurse asked another nurse, “Why is he doing that?”
          The other nurse replied, “Oh, he just likes to call the shots around here.”

          And…………………………………………………………

          The nurse who can smile when things go wrong is probably going off duty.

          I have more, however, have run out of ink

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      • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

        JL, I work in the private sector and the owner seems nice but doesn’t like to spend much which at times is disappointing. E.g., when I started I was given an orientation day and sat next to a lovely girl with a killer figure. She explained that she worked here 6 years ago. We were given a tour around the nursing home. Later at a coffee break the girl told me that the wheels on the tea trolley in the kitchen were the same ones she reported 6 years ago as they don’t work properly. After I started I asked one of the kitchen staff about the trolley and she confirmed what the girl had said. A worker had been badly burned when the hot water jug split on her because the wheels on the trolley would jam causing items on the trolley to shift. Those wheels are still there. Sad but true.

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        • Unfortunately it’s the same all over the world. The Indians ahve taken over most of the aged care faculties in The UK.

          There lucky to get butter on their toast.

          Investors go into the health business, because it’s bound to make money, however they often cut corners, something that the admin doesn’t do in the public service, if they have the budget.

          Like other businesses though, I guess it’s (hopefully) not all of the private health that’s run like that.

          I had fantastic treatment in The Mater (private) Brissie and my mother had fantastic care in the public hospital at Robina. They couldn’t do enough for her.

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        • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

          I am pleased you Mum had some dignity. Palliative care is much better now than 40 years ago.

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  15. So, Vivienne, Coca Cola own 29%, of the cannery. Who owns the other 61%?

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  16. Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

    Reply to SO over at the dumb about Sharman Stone

    She presented really well SO but she did get a bit cagey when asked if she called Abbott a liar. She then did a bit of a word game to get around it but in the end is an untruth a lie? I liked her. She would make a better PM then Abbott but then again almost anyone would.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Might have been more than one interview – on the Country Hour – she used the word ‘lying’ a number of times. Did not use the better choice of ‘Abbott is a liar’. She explained she did not want to be unparliamentary as that word can’t be used there. Somewhat tongue in cheek. Abbott has just reaffirmed no change on answer to SPC.

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  17. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Jules, it is part of the effort to stop temperatures increasing. You are asking the wrong question. My question is why throw taxpayer money at a guessing game called Direct Action while simulaneously dismantling some real direct action in the form of loans which were not just highly successful but also profitable. Face it, the Libs have got it all arse up. Libs want to subsidise polluters but not assist SPC with a proven business plan. They want to throw taxpayer money at a rate of up to $75,000 for women to have maternity leave but they have to investigate welfare for the disabled. They aren’t in favour of the law taking its course on some union member’s corruption (no cost) but prefer to spend Millions of Dollars on a Royal bloody Commission in to all Unions.

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    • On page30 of this link you will see that their turnover is 48 BILLION.
      Why can’t they put in the $25 million if it’s such a good idea? It is, as you say, proven??

      Industries change. The Spinning Jenny changed the Midlands In The UK. In the South the tin mines went out of business many years ago..Coalminers become unenviable and now fruit growers are in completion with Asian fruit growers.

      If the cannery close, I guess that the fruit growers will find other markets. I havn’t studied -and don’t realy know about the viability.

      The problem – probably – is that there are hundreds of thousands of request on the government’s desk. It shouldn’t be partisan, and I hope that it isn’t. It should be examined on a case by case scenario. I listend to Martin Ferguson, while I was drivng and he was listing all of the faults tha he found with Coca Cola’s management there. I didn’tunderstand all of them. However one thing I can tell you as a judge of charcter, he came across as sincere in wanting to save the business, he sounded tired and said that he had 48 hours of consultation on it.

      He knows more han you and I …………………….and my laptop is playing up. Putting in letters and jumping around so Hasta la Vista.

      I am note sure about direct action. Do some research and write an article for comment Viv…I’ll then provide my opinon.

      G’day

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      • Click to access 0000021344-13-000003.pdf

        Sorry, I forgot the link.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        Coca Cola Amatil is an Australian listed company which uses the word Coca Cola because it has the licence to make the product with that secret ingredient. They aren’t the same company. This is the last cannery in Australia. No other place to send product to. Just like McCain who were buying local potatoes and encouraged locals to supply them for their frozen chips. They are now buying spuds from NZ and left all the locals in the lurch.

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        • It’s owned by Coca Cola. Holden is owned by General Motors and Ford is American.

          Surely some entrpisng Aussie could buy the cannery off Coca Cola. Paul Keting, if he sold his piggery. Mind you he might to have sold that. I’m not up to speed.

          Bloody typewriter.
          What about Paul Howes? He could set it up with The Bikies. They’ve got heaps of cash.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Coca Cola own 29% of it. As sensible as it might seem that it not the way businesses do their business. Never have to the best of my knowledge. One reason why Keating flogged off Qantas was he was sick of government having to use taxpayers money to buy new aircraft which the airline itself couldn’t afford. He didn’t rate it as an essential service. Actually most government business (Telecom/Telstra, Medibank, the Post Office) run within their own income and expenditure and usually give the govt a dividend – unlike Qantas which need govt money, often.
          I do hope that CCA will put up the the money needed for the upgrade. In 2006 ‘ CCA opens its new $15 million national distribution centre for SPC Ardmona, which centralises and consolidates twelve of SPC Ardmona’s offsite warehouses.’
          It comes down to the hypocrisy of the Libs but especially Abbott himself who says one thing and does the opposite. He lied.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        Can’t research it because little is written about it. The Liberals I think are still working on it. The only sure thing is that it involved giving selected industries taxpayers money to hopefully do a bit less polluting. I think they intend to plant more trees – that ignores the fact that we have already had massive tree planting done by govt (first by Hawke) and the wonderful success of Landcare among other grassroot orgs. Many many farmers have undertaken a great deal of tree planting since 1995 as a result of specific efforts by governments.

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  18. Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

    The Dumb is down again

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Yes, down as in depressed. However it has just sprung to life.

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      • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

        Thanks Viv. I see the usual conservative trolls are about

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Idiots aren’t they. One tried to pretend to be Alpo. Been sorted. PS: cool change arrived during the night. Only 30c today (so far) instead of 43c. Same your way I hope. Cool enough to cook something ‘proper’ – curry chicken. But I also picked up a kilo of fresh school prawns from Lakes Entrance (bloody delicious and easy to peel).

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        • Hung One On's avatar Hung One On said:

          Beautiful today, 27, almost need a jumper, prawns sound good.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Of course the prawns were from Lakes Entrance – I didn’t go there to buy them. About the only reason I would go there actually ! Unfortunately we have also a lot of shitty wind today and the temp is now 32 and a bit. With a bit of luck it will stay low 30s for a few days.

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        • Yes, out of 260 posts on ABC Drum, it is the one by Gerard O. on Mungo MacCallum that’s been followed again as usual by SM. I am beginning to think it must be love. It will remain unrequited. So sad, never even a hint of reciprocation. I am taken already. 😉

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        • sea monster's avatar sea monster said:

          More of a hobby. There was some love nearby

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        • sea monster's avatar sea monster said:

          Nordi had a fail by the way. He complained that he couldn’t move without tripping over an Australian genuflecting. They were everywhere!

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        • Nordi’s such a redneck. Fancy making up some stupid idea about Australians genuflecting.

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        • Surely not? At my age, could that still happen? How do S Monster and others get so hopelessly smitten? Was it my gravatar, giving the angle of my nose, the tilt of the affirmative chin or my distant look, hinting at generous promises with ripe fulfilment?

          Sadly, if this is the case ( or any case), it must remain unrequited. He has already been taken. No number of overexcited internet ‘femmes fatale’ or hopeful trolling will be able to unhinge me. It will not ever be reciprocated. Your love is doomed S M.

          I have told her to be gone not to darken my well scrubbed doorstep again. I am curious if this phenomenon is rare or is it just a case of a world of demented, frustrated souls, waiting to pounce on unsuspected bloggers? Is their hope for the blogger to become totally unhinged by their persistent obsessive statements? Do they relish the chance of a mental cave-in, or… a marriage proposal? . ..Who would know?

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        • Hi five Sea Monster. I think someone forgot there’s a REASON why it’s usually so easy to win Drum arguments over here at the Dump. LOL.

          I leave things in your capable hands. Vader you must confront, and confront him you will. May the Force with be with you. 🙂

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        • Huh!, Whatever.

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        • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

          Not now, gerard! I’ve just met a deadline. Didn’t bring the work laptop home today for the first time in ages. I took the bloody thing on holidays for god’s sake!

          Did a 6 kay run to clear my mind and I’m trying to relax. I’m in good humour…

          It’s a weird obsession I admit. Actually I prefer to call it an anti-fragile enmity. I may lay my reasons some time. Not piecemeal. Not in heated moments. But I dunno… Maybe I could post it as an article here! ‘The Taming of the Oosterman’.

          If its a problem just stop talkin’ nonsense about Australia and its plain sailing. Real problems fine. I’ve got nothing to say. Made up problems the worlds gonna see they’re made up. Also I’ve got a problem with derailing. Trying to turn every discussion into Norway > Italy > China > Nazi Germany > Australia is bound to draw a response.

          And remember this place is the small time. The Drum is major leagues.

          I’m not alone in being weird am I? I can hold my head high in this company.

          How about that roaring rampage of revenge you guys took through The Drum after Tabletalk rose against you? Convicts this! Alcohol that! You wanna talk about weird…
          It was like watching kids out late running down main street smashing car windows.

          One more thing, buddy, I was mindin’ my own business here. I was prepared to let things slide…

          THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD!!!!

          Hph has some pluck I’ll give him that. And loyalty in spades. He recited the mantra just the way you like it too. That’s true love!

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        • Oh dear, of the over 260 posts on the GG by MacCallum you finally did find me, your love a fatal attraction as no other. How many hours, nay days of ferreting, having to go through all the Drums pieces and thousands of responses, but, finally… you found me!

          Cast me loose, Sea Mendez, Sea Monster, Voice, VoR, Reader1, Reader et all.
          Resist the siren’s call. Fill your ears with wax or tie yourself to the mast. Leave my unworthy soul afloat on the ocean of bitter tears, like aimless driftwood of so many loves left alone. I am no Odysseus. Just a mere fighter for free Salvation army soup for the unemployed, the subsidised walking frame for the over 75’ers. (The freedom not to genuflect for those liable to break the pea soup wind in waiting).

          Find a good one. The lonely articled clerk on a Friday night at Homebush’s ‘The Locomotive’ in front of his fish-chips. He still has his own teeth and a handy portfolio of blue chips as well. His own bedsit at Parramatta. He needs a good strong -willed woman. Go on, give it a go.

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          • On the grounds this type of comment says so much more about you that it does about me, gerard, I had been going to let it go. But since I’m here anyway.
            Look, it’s sweet in a way that you believe Helvi’s intuitions or whatever the heck they are (this multi-persona thing did originate from Helvi) and feel you have to support her. And now you’ve abused so many people online you’re probably invested in it. But even that doesn’t excuse you.
            I recall when someone (we all know who but why keep bringing up his name again and again over the past) was having very serious problems a couple of years ago and made some vile comments about everyone, one I commented was calling me a lesbian. You obviously thought that indicated I’m really sensitive about that (it didn’t, it was chosen at random) because I recall you dragging out the lesbian thing several times for the following week.
            Now SM came out the other day telling off the latest online abuser for his line of abuse against me, you think I’m sensitive about THAT. (Again, you’re wrong. I hadn’t even recognised SM’s interpretation). So you’re continuing it.
            It just says so much more about you than it does about me it’s not funny.

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        • Stay for a while SM. Draw Gerard in a bit more – as ‘they’ did to *@*. They emboldened him/her and, foolishly, he didn’t know where to draw the line.

          Well one doesn’t, when on is slightly unhinged anyway. He/she”s pursuing me in The Drum now.
          But be warned Gerard is a master of syntax and rhythm. We have it on record……….
          ….And he wrote a long article about checking IPs.e
          That, of course was before he tabled a note about recommending that we treat the asylum seekers that SAME WAY as Turkey treats their Syrian refugees – all 700k of them.

          If you are not lazy, and can be bothered to research it, you will find that all 700k of those Syrians are desperate to get home to Syria, once the civl war is settled. None of them are seeking to live in Turkey.

          So, of course, the logical lesson here is that gerad is proposing that ALL of the asylum seekers in The ALP Kamps are returned, just as Turkey is going to return The Syrians. In fact listen to The Syrians, they are desperate, yes desperate to get back. Poor displaced citizens

          How heartless can one be?? After encouraging them to make the dangerous trip, one should at least evaluate their status.

          In truth SM, I would probably contradict my earlier request for you to stay. Well I would change it.

          Ignore your natural urge to challenge gerard, an just chat to others here. You and I could argue about Israel – or spying.

          Gerad has declared that he has proof, through your IP, that you are Voice. Leave it at that. Although I think that I feel a limerick coming on.

          Now what are you up to today Sea?

          And what are you up to today Voix

          And what are you up to today Hung?

          To Vivienne, I am doing a “risotto” rehearsal. PS: I am on a broccoli fetish at the moment, however, I don’t know whether that is a suitable ingredient?

          I should do a recipe for Gerad and Heidi. What is a happiness ingredient?..magic mushrooms perhaps. I picked some on a golf course once, when I was a million years younger and was following a peer. We made tea in an old teapot….A complete waste of time – and Iv’e never got below a 20 handicap.

          NOW, in other important matters, I rang into The ABC this morning. I often do, as they have a general knowledge quiz, and I have won a couple of times. However, this morning ABC (Gold Coast)FM, it was about Credence Clearwater Revival; the prize being two tickets to The Ladies masters at The Royal Pines (Just by Rosser Park, where I walk my dogs).

          Grrrr, I got one question wrong and lost

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          • Oh, Carisbrooke, go re-soak your head in a bucket. Now you’ve made me make another comment. If gerard has declared he has proof through IP addresses that Sea Mendez and I are the same person he’s lying. I think gerard prefers to insinuate though so I doubt he has declared that. You’ve probably got insinuations and declarations muddled. Which I suppose, on reflection, is the power of insinuations. But no-one takes it seriously anyway, except possibly when YOU come out with something like this.

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        • Of course, ‘we’ know that he is making a fool of himself, however, he should probably be ignored now.
          It’s meant to de divisive, but I think that everyone is over it now.

          Nobody thinks that you and Sea Mendez -now Sea Monster – are the same person. It’s only the Oostermans (that think that) , and they are consumed with it. And they bought it up in this blog – for discussion presumably – so it is fair to discuss it. But I have had enough of it 😦

          Let’s just leave them alone. It can stay as dinner conversation in their house.

          In other matters, I am planting more sage and thyme, thinking of getting a new laptop and reading my electricity bill. I use Lumo, and they give 10% off for payment within 20days . There bill comes with a declaration in bold orange:

          Qld Competition Authority estimates the Federal carbon price and renewable energy target add about $259 a year to a typical 6.3MWh household bill -www.qca.org.au.

          $259pa, is not much and if I thought that this would cool Australia, I would gladly pay $500 pa.

          Is it cooling Australia?

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  19. Well, dear friends, you’ve all had quite a day of it. I’ve been at work, and wandered into the pub for a quick Pink Drink before bed….what do I find, bar stools tipped over, billiard balls strewn across the floor, even the Bowling Ladies urn has been tipped over!! I gather that Mr Merv isn’t impressed (stopped service at eight o’clock), and Granny has taken to her bed. Anyhoo, glad I missed it all and hope the miscreant tidies up, and settles his bar tab before he leaves.

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    • Eight o’clock nothing. Merv was a no-show for the entire day. As was the help, who’d spiked the booze the night before and left it on the bar. He put up a notice this morning deploring the mess.

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      • ‘As was the help…’ Sounds like Manne has returned, lazy, shiftless bastard, poisoning our piss, then buggering off with some floozie for the night.

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  20. Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

    Im (innere) Westen nichts Neues…

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  21. Steppenwolf's avatar Steppenwolf said:

    The Nobel Prize in Literature 1946
    Hermann Hesse

    Hermann Hesse – Biographical

    I was born in Calw in the Black Forest on July 2, 1877. My father, a Baltic German, came from Estonia; my mother was the daughter of a Swabian and a French Swiss. My father’s father was a doctor, my mother’s father a missionary and Indologist. My father, too, had been a missionary in India for a short while, and my mother had spent several years of her youth in India and had done missionary work there.

    My childhood in Calw was interrupted by several years of living in Basle (1880-86). My family had been composed of different nationalities; to this was now added the experience of growing up among two different peoples, in two countries with their different dialects.

    I spent most of my school years in boarding schools in Wuerttemberg and some time in the theological seminary of the monastery at Maulbronn. I was a good learner, good at Latin though only fair at Greek, but I was not a very manageable boy, and it was only with difficulty that I fitted into the framework of a pietist education that aimed at subduing and breaking the individual personality. From the age of twelve I wanted to be a poet, and since there was no normal or official road, I had a hard time deciding what to do after leaving school. I left the seminary and grammar school, became an apprentice to a mechanic, and at the age of nineteen I worked in book and antique shops in Tübingen and Basle. Late in 1899 a tiny volume of my poems appeared in print, followed by other small publications that remained equally unnoticed, until in 1904 the novel Peter Camenzind, written in Basle and set in Switzerland, had a quick success. I gave up selling books, married a woman from Basle, the mother of my sons, and moved to the country. At that time a rural life, far from the cities and civilization, was my aim. Since then I have always lived in the country, first, until 1912, in Gaienhofen on Lake Constance, later near Bern, and finally in Montagnola near Lugano, where I am still living.

    Soon after I settled in Switzerland in 1912, the First World War broke out, and each year brought me more and more into conflict with German nationalism; ever since my first shy protests against mass suggestion and violence I have been exposed to continuous attacks and floods of abusive letters from Germany. The hatred of the official Germany, culminating under Hitler, was compensated for by the following I won among the young generation that thought in international and pacifist terms, by the friendship of Romain Rolland, which lasted until his death, as well as by the sympathy of men who thought like me even in countries as remote as India and Japan. In Germany I have been acknowledged again since the fall of Hitler, but my works, partly suppressed by the Nazis and partly destroyed by the war; have not yet been republished there.

    In 1923, I resigned German and acquired Swiss citizenship. After the dissolution of my first marriage I lived alone for many years, then I married again. Faithful friends have put a house in Montagnola at my disposal.

    Until 1914 I loved to travel; I often went to Italy and once spent a few months in India. Since then I have almost entirely abandoned travelling, and I have not been outside of Switzerland for over ten years.

    I survived the years of the Hitler regime and the Second World War through the eleven years of work that I spent on the Glasperlenspiel (1943) [Magister Ludi], a novel in two volumes. Since the completion of that long book, an eye disease and increasing sicknesses of old age have prevented me from engaging in larger projects.

    Of the Western philosophers, I have been influenced most by Plato, Spinoza, Schopenhauer, and Nietzsche as well as the historian Jacob Burckhardt. But they did not influence me as much as Indian and, later, Chinese philosophy. I have always been on familiar and friendly terms with the fine arts, but my relationship to music has been more intimate and fruitful. It is found in most of my writings. My most characteristic books in my view are the poems (collected edition, Zürich, 1942), the stories Knulp (1915), Demian (1919), Siddhartha (1922), Der Steppenwolf (1927) [Steppenwolf], Narziss und Goldmund. (1930), Die Morgenlandfahrt (1932) [The Journey to the East], and Das Glasperlenspiel (1943) [Magister Ludi]. The volume Gedenkblätter (1937, enlarged ed. 1962) [Reminiscences] contains a good many autobiographical things. My essays on political topics have recently been published in Zürich under the title Krieg und Frieden (1946) [War and Peace].

    I ask you, gentlemen, to be contented with this very sketchy outline; the state of my health does not permit me to be more comprehensive.

    Biographical note on Hermann Hesse
    Hermann Hesse (1877-1962) received the Goethe Prize of Frankfurt in 1946 and the Peace Prize of the German Booksellers in 1955. A complete edition of his works in six volumes appeared in 1952; a seventh volume (1957) contains essays and miscellaneous writings. Beschwörungen (1955) [Evocations], a volume of late prose, and his correspondence with Romain Rolland (1954) were published separately.
    From Nobel Lectures, Literature 1901-1967, Editor Horst Frenz, Elsevier Publishing Company, Amsterdam, 1969
    This autobiography/biography was written at the time of the award and first published in the book series Les Prix Nobel. It was later edited and republished in Nobel Lectures. To cite this document, always state the source as shown above.

    Hermann Hesse died on August 9, 1962.

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    • Steppenwolf's avatar Steppenwolf said:

      GRRRR………………

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    • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

      TLDR. Can you do me a favour and point out the bit about the politics of detachment?

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    • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

      I’m going to help you along a little here.

      ‘Did not specifically condemn Nazism’ does not mean ‘approved of Nazism’.

      ‘Did not specifically condemn Nazism’ does not mean ‘was not revolted by what the Nazis were doing’.

      ‘Did not specifically condemn Nazism’ does not mean ‘did not condemn or resist Nazi policies’. Hence aiding Brecht and condemning anti-Semetism.

      Please do me the basic courtesy of understanding the concept before you argue with me about it.

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      • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

        For example one may disapprove strongly of Abbott carbon tax policy (as I do) without participating in Abbott hate sessions (as I don’t).

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  22. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Subject change and it’s nothing to do with the Drum, sorry to say. But this for me is a significant development. I’m just back from the tip/transfer station. I bloke there had a regular trailer which has a hydraulic lift. It’s a tipper! He may have manufactured the whole thing himself but it looks beautiful and it was up and down quickly, quietly.

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  23. Steppenwolf's avatar Steppenwolf said:

    You are bullshitting!

    People are not stupid. It is very easy to find out what kind of a man Hess was….

    The Magic of Internet and the Information Highway.
    🙂

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  24. Jules might be a pedant and often passive aggressive (WOW!) here but he does add to the richness of the PA..

    That hph whoever he/she is is allowed to dish out bile (WOW!) and attack Jules….

    He or she ???
    WOW!

    Loco, Psychopath and the Closet-Fascist…..YOU WIN !!!!

    With the help from ACE .

    So long PA….

    Bye,

    Bye…………

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