The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.
NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.
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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off. Like a sack of prawn heads in the sun. Something had to be done.
Moderation was taking forever. Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged. When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !
So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit. And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.
As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire. And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.
So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog. Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity. Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.
And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments. Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.
Cheers,
Emm.
Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
Hung, guess what *it* is for yesterday and today. Should be easy for you…:)
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Are you a whale?
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hph, I’m no good at guessing. Just bloody well tell us. PLEASE.
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here is a clue: it starts with H and I run on electricity or some kind of power and I have no emotions. three articles and near the top 🙂
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go to Dot for the answer
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Either way I had a good week. Amazing. Family arriving soon for curry chicken dinner with the works (papadums) so signing off.
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Different moderator today. Plenty of comments and replies – covert racism – from right wing warriors and conservatives to drown out other voices.
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Which pieces hph?
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Sorry for the late reply, Vivienne. In most of the articles … but on second thought there were enough comments from our side posted late in the afternoon and evening.
I tried to post a few comments in support of G & H but the moderator did not like it.
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Well the Libs are doing so dreadfully on all fronts even most of their diehards are lost for words or just not showing up. A few ones valiantly writing total garbage here and there. On my home front Sussan Ley is getting little support for actually half heartedly doing the right thing.
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Article by Dr Rodger Shanahan of the Lowy Institute of International Policy
Lehan Ramsay:
12 Jan 2015 4:51:29pm
Did The Lowy Institute have the guts ripped out of it?
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A valid question under the circumstances and whose irony escaped many commenters.
Although I was surprised by this article (highlighting free speech as a fundamental human right in oil-rich kingdoms), I still feel it falls short of the mark, which is really human rights for women, no mention of how women are treated badly in these countries, mentally and physically.
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I struck gold today. Mods let through all my posts on Barnes so far. Fracking miracle.
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You was on fire Viv, at one stage I thought I might need to get an extinguisher 🙂
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So hph, I sea you post under a seadonym?
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I thought this week I might try No Interest In Repayments
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you got that one right Hung:)
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I have a nickname for family use only. Hot Mum. Earnt for my ability to find things others can’t, fixing things others can’t, and for some of my brilliant cooking. Yep, Hot and on Fire today. I’ll enjoy it while it lasts !
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Yep. Enjoy it today. I suspect tomorrow will be a different story.
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Me too, Vivienne
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I’ll check you out. Been too absorbed in my own success. Let’s celebrate with a little drink of something nice. Glug glug, sip sip.
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What pseud?
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you know, I can be a ….
🙂
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Can’t you spell it out. I have no idea what the pseud is and so I can’t see how well you did.
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Good grief – now I got top billing on Paula’s. Wonders will never cease.
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Well done, Viv. Just skim read it all….starting another run of nights.
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You were on fire today vivienne, well done.
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I was at home doing not much as too bloody hot. I couldn’t believe it when I got up and then it kept on happening.
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Article by John Blaxland
Zing: 08 Jan 2015 5:08:06pm
“Society needs the freedom to tease others. It doesn’t need biting dogs.
If you tease a dog, it will bite. If a dog bites, it will be put down.”
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And my reply to zing wasn’t posted:
“If you tease a shark, it will eat you. If you molest a stingray, it will sting you.
So, are you gonna kill all the sharks?”
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Weird comparisons being put there. Dogs can’t read newspapers. I could not see any point in joining the discussion(s).
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Just relogging in.
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This is from Emma-Kate Symons’ blog. This SG guy is one funny atheist. 🙂
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SG:
08 Jan 2015 6:46:33pm
Islam is a race not a religion. Muselim is the religion and as far as I know not every Islamic person is a muselim. So with that being said, all organised faith based religion should be open to criticism, scepticism and we should be encouraging open dialogue of all religions. You should not however, critise someone for their race as this cannot be helped and is racism. So no one is being anti-Islam, just anti Muslims, it’s a completely different thing – religions cause nothing but wars, evoke unnessesary fear & repress women all around the world. I’m an athiest and I can’t remember the last time someone was shot, stoned, beheded, killed, raped or jailed by an athiest group. Just a thought.
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Good to see he’s across the topic and uses a spell checker as well. Does anyone know where in the world Islam is?
Mrs A and I had business in the city the other day where we overheard someone say. It’s one of the those new age churches like Hillsong.
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Whatever we call these nutjobs from Islamic places, they still have a way to catch up with the number of nutjobs killings school kids in the USA. Though the USA police usually manage to shoot the buggers, dead.
We’ve finally had some rain.
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OH dear me, Stuffed Olive. I admire your tenacity in replying to that penishead tossle. My patience was worn out five years ago. And now, for balance, he wants us to read JoNova, Wattsupwiththat or Climate Depot !!!
Sometimes I dream I’m behind the wheel of a Mack truck and they are hopping across the highway in bunny costumes. -a joke 🙂
(my apologies for using 9 letter word – couldn’t help myself)
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Yes – it’s wasted but I hate seeing them get their shit up unchallenged. I’m in the front seat with you in that big truck ! Easy to get them at night you know. What did Australia do to deserve not only shitface Abbott but this small but hardy group of nutcase deniers. I wish ABC to stop putting any climate change thing up because it just gives them opportunity to post their crap.
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Ws dropped a mucky turd in the Drum sandpit, then walked away! Left Algy, Olive and F Oblivion to hose things down.
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He’s pretty good with the code browns
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The old blind mullet.
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I see that the LNP is going to call a snap election. I was told last week they have internal polling that suggests that they think the have a 54-46 lead which flies in the face of all other polls. I was also told that it was going to be announced around the 19th. I wonder who the new Premier there will be after Campbell loses his seat.
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We’ll find out soon enough as tipped to be 31st Jan – not far away. If LNP win it will be another brainless idiot.
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My well connected Liberal (who now finds it difficult to even vote for them )mate tells me Can do is in deep trouble in his seat. They reckon he’s got next to no chance of holding it. They question the lunacy of their internal polling. I reckon the LNP will get back with a reduced majority and Campbell losing his seat. I doubt a hung parliament. Oh the sweet irony.
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Thank you Piglet Boys, hph, Algernon and Big M…we are going away for few days, to Port Macquarie. Talk to you on return and a very Happy New Year to all of you, and everybody else here..
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Thanks H, enjoy the trip. Try to keep the old bloke away from the Aldi Shiraz!
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PS, if you want to have a rest in Newcastle on your return, give me a buzz.
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Many thanks,BigM, it would be nice to stop at Newcastle, but we actually forgot an important appointment and we have to come back a day earlier…we’ll save it for next time..no Aldi Shiraz, I have banned it…he’s going to take Milo to his kennel, I’ll water the plants and off we go..
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Sorry we won’t see you, but enjoy the break. Glad you have banned the Aldi plonk, GO waxed lyrical about it a while back!
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Helvi, with regard to Zing and others, “Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and it annoys the pig” – George Bernard Shaw
🙂
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GO led me here ,hph, you know as well as I do who this Zing is; she has many names, and she is nasty and vindictive, but on the ABC Drum she can’t get too horrible…the site is moderated…
Shaw is right, but sometimes I can’t resist the temptation…
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I can’t resist the temptation too, but I make them jump through hoops instead. 🙂
It is a great pleasure to hear from you again, Helvi.
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helvi lovely to see you again. hope all is well.
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Nice to hear from you, Helvi. Sometimes on the Drum I just skim read for names I know. Your comments are always short and appropriate.
I also look for ws because he’s incredibly funny without realising it, until he gets nasty!
Happy New Year to the Bowral piglets.
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Engaged in a few debates over recent days. Was polite to him with some subtleties that went over his head. One about the colleagues, then asked about the cavs. The reply was as nice as it might have been once. I mean he’s fine until that nasty comes out.
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I dunno who zing is, but I’m a bit slow!!
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Here’s one HELL of a comment, even made me smile
R Supwood:
02 Jan 2015 12:09:40pm
The most solid and enduring policy in Australian politics has been to give the other bastards a go. Abbott, the most nothingy no-one in our political history, has won office, guaranteed pension rights, future largesse in boards and appointments from patrons and a place (low) in books. Now that people realise they voted for an enemy, patronized by a foreign, ex-patriate tax-bludging media wart of a soul, they’ll go looking for sense and progress, lacking now in Abbottism. There’s something stinking and revolting about a pre-1945 attitude built on superstition, fantasy and downright lies.
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It’s good and it’s original.
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Its a ripper isn’t Hung. Loved your reply to mine to Blzbob, hopefully mine to you will get up,
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It’s amazing that two Piglets can blog at the Drum, plus SO got some exposure and even he who cannot be named.
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They posted it, sure you’ll like it. Memories 🙂
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Omly, yes I remember that, thanks for the laugh Ace 🙂
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Thought you’d like it.
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Glad you got your reply to IMBY up as mine didn’t make it. You made my point, so job well done.
I’m off to town shortly – seeing the final instalment of the Hobbit with family.
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Just finished playing Midnight Oil on the USB turntable. Vinyl sound great doesn’t it. Seeing a lot of tag teaming today.
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You have to wonder vivienne why some of these people commentate. IMBY thinks the MLA is an industry body. Fails to realise they’re the regulator as well as being a government authority.
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LP – great isn’t it Algy.
Re IMBY et al I do wish I could figure out how their comments get up immediately and my reply never appears 3/4 of the time.
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The sound of the turntable is great vivienne. Lots of air guitar playing too I might add.
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Just logged into ABC to post a comment. When I hit the post tab up it came instantly. Mods must be hungover and switched to automatic.
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Yes, I had same experience on and off this arvo. Amazing !
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funny…so did mine, just below Algernon’s comment !
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The muddle headed wombat hph?
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well…looks like he hit the afternoon snooze button !
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harry got the last laugh though even if he had no idea what he was talking about.
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No it wasn’t a last laugh. I didn’t even bother to respond to him. This makes them go crazier 🙂 You and I made the point. He was desperately hanging on to the end of the rope 🙂
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I wish I knew which article you are talking about.
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Ben Pobjie’s piece on Thursday vivenne.
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Algy, did you see the post from dog walker: I’d like to thank the moderators, and many of my adversaries in here – with a particular thanks to Algernon, who bit, hook, line and sinker to my European Sojourn joke.
It gave me and my colleagues a fabulous laugh, since I predicted it prior to writing it.
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I did and others did too. I tried to write a reply by but I seemed to be in the naughty corner with the mods on that blog. I got on of a dozen up there. I wished him and his a happy new year. Told him if that made him feel good then that’s OK but other commentators thought otherwise apart from their comment. I thanked him that this wasn’t his usual ad hominem or cutting and paste without knowledge of the topic, not that there was. Of course the mods didn’t print it
I was wondering who the colleagues were, the cavs perhaps. I mean it took him a 1.5 days to reply.
A happy new year to you vivienne.
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Yes, I noted you had bother getting posts up. Me too but I didn’t write much as others covered stuff so well. Stayed up till 10.45 pm. Happy new year to you too Algy and all at the Pub.
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I noticed that the site is open again sot I’ve tried again to write a post. There are some difficulties but this is what I’ve replied with.
Why thank you WS and a Happy New year to you and yours. May it be a prosperous one for you. After all Europe can be very expensive. as we know.
Now if you feel comfortable with that then who am I to suggest otherwise. Judging by the other comments there most commentators would suggest otherwise.
And can I thank you for this kind post, not your usual ad hominem or cut and paste. Though of course there was no need for any of that here.
Your friend
Algernon
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Well perseverance paid off and they posted it.
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Must be in the naughty corner today as I can’t get a post up at The Drum. The village parrot Alfie is leaving droppings all over the place though.
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I could post only one so far. A right-leaning-mod must be at the controls !
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Reckon you’re right hph, I’ve got a couple up on the cricket blog but nothing on the review or the language blog. The usual tory parrots are posting at will.
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Seem to be getting page not available on some blogs. I’ve given up.
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It’s a sign that the gates are shut. well, that’s it for me today. I give up.
I fired few salvos to your *mate* at the bottom of ‘Drum Stories 2014’ but didn’t get thru.
🙂
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I got one up and “hoping” for another to that one. Weird my strike rate earlier in the week was quite high.
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Weird .. Same here. It depends on who the moderator is on a particular day.
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Such is life I suppose. A Happy new Year to you.
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Happy new year to you too, Algernon.
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Algy, nice run on Mungo’s piece.
The dog walker should stick to picking up turds!
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Well he’s certainly littering The Drum with them. Opened his bowels with something on refugees and the level of immigration (lets face it Howard doubled and tripled the number above historical averages). From him an Economic migrant from England. I’ve posted back that those who seem to bitch and moan the most are those like him. I wonder if he picks up the turds or is one of those who leaves them there.
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Revisited the page this morning. Comments were even more shambolic!
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He’s got a pearl there about Australia were never at risk of a recession when the GFC hit. I’ve posted a reply but nothings going through. Cloud cuckoo stuff really.
There’s one today suggesting that Billy Hughes being our worst ever PM using Tim Fischer as a source by Chris Berg. You’d have to be 80 to remember any other PM from Menzies on. Even Curtin and Chifley would be hard to recall for someone that age. Of course DW talks about Bill Shorten.
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Too much time with head stuck up arse.
Tried one reply, but it wasn’t posted.
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Interesting the way Dragonista is moving leftwards, so much so, that the rusted on conservatives are calling her a Labor stooge.
Anyhoo, off to work, nights over the New Year period, perhaps I should join Hung in the campervan?
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Waterloo Sunset 2016dd:
30 Dec 2014 12:02:55pm
There was never, ever, going to be a recession here.
In hindsight the two cash give-aways were stupid decisions. we should have rode it out and and sacked Glen Stevens for not lowering the interest rates in line with other economies.
He should be in the IMF!
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The lines from many others were pure gold Big, just demonstrated he didn’t know what he was talking about. He had another where he though he should reverse his European holiday to 8 months and 4 here. Not often he leads with his jaw. Suggested he should take 12 as no one would mind. No reply of course.
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Yes Algy – spotted a couple, need to revisit too. Of course what Rudd et al did to fend off the GFC is like getting a vaccination. It worked. But according to DW no need for that. Fracking idiot.
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True vivienne 14 replies to his will all but one effectively saying he’s an idiot. SVJ chirps in with no idea what to say and about as silly as the other
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Algy, I loved the 12 month holiday response….pure gold!!
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It was one I enjoyed putting up and he didn’t bite back until late today with this.
I’d like to thank the moderators, and many of my adversaries in here – with a particular thanks to Algernon, who bit, hook, line and sinker to my European Sojourn joke.
It gave me and my colleagues a fabulous laugh, since I predicted it prior to writing it.
Thank you so much. It finishes of 2014 with a wonderful flourish and the knowledge (and affirmation) that, some responses are just as predictable as phases of the moon.
I just wonder who these colleagues are. Nothing really nasty here just fiction. Anyhow I wrote a pleasant response but given my strike rate today It’s unlikely to get up.
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I had to laugh, because quite often I skim through the comments looking for ws, because his comments really ARE so funny!!
Happy New Year to you lot. Have a Pink Drink on me, I’m off to work. Will have some NY drinks on the weekend.
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Don’t work too hard tonight Big. Mrs A’s got the Bolly on ice for later. Happy New year.
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Have a lovely day tomorrow everyone. We will.
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merry xmas, too, every friend 🙂
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Happy Sol Invictus!!
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Well a Merry Christmas every one, enjoy your day 🙂
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I had a good time at Chris Berg’s page today. tsk tsk
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Under what pseud? Or just reading the comments. They were fascinating.
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I can be a monster sometimes 🙂
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Ah – I see, I remember. You did very nicely. Opera House indeed! Got him.
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Didn’t know which way to turn, nicely done.
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🙂
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Got a few up in the end
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Here’s another little deposit by the dog walker on the footpath. Methinks he’s imbibed too much sake lately.
Waterloo Sunset 2016dd:
23 Dec 2014 4:16:22pm
Yes, it’s sad, however all too familiar now.
Chris Bowen, was the worst treasurer in 100 years. He lost billions overnight.
He must have played poker with Tony Burke.
Jaspez Perth:
23 Dec 2014 6:05:24pm
hasn’t the sunset on you yet? What a ridiculous statement. Bowen never brought down a budget so how on earth could he be responsible for the debt you claim.
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Amazing the garbage they latch on to – dog walker wasn’t the only one.
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Hey Viv, wheeze is getting a good run on the Dunlop piece.
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Eyes Ian that youz had a fair outin’ at the Bum!!
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Eyes r genius bro
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I’m not 6 posts not one of the posted! 😦
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The Drum seems to have gone on holiday. Mungo’s piece had no comments yesterday and this morning there is nothing and no ability to comment.
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The cuts have taken immediate effect.
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They are cutting big here at the Pigs Arms. My wage has gone from zero to below zero and boy that’s cold.
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Mmmm, subzero wages. I think you’re too negative.
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It all reappeared after a while. I went to do my final booze and grocery shopping. Doing some food prep tomorrow and cutting mum to be’s hair in the arvo. The rest of the family are rather happy to have a designated driver for months to come.
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Good luck with the shopping, it’s like people are preparing for nuclear war!
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I intend to open a business that is only open on public holidays between 12 and 1 which is when I will be at lunch. How do you think I will go?
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I dunno, Hung. I’ll be at lunch, so it could suit me fine. Or not.
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Perhaps we could lunch together 🙂
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For a two day holiday its amazing to watch isn’t it.
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Hung, sounds like the Irish sandwich shop, ‘Closed for lunch’.
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BRITISH HUMOR IS DIFFERENT
These are classified ads, which were actually placed in U.K. Newspapers:
FREE YORKSHIRE TERRIER.
8 years old,
Hateful little bastard.
Bites!
FREE PUPPIES
1/2 Cocker Spaniel, 1/2 sneaky neighbor’s dog.
FREE PUPPIES.
Mother is a Kennel Club registered German Shepherd.
Father is a Super Dog, able to leap tall fences in a single bound.
COWS, CALVES: NEVER BRED.
Also 1 gay bull for sale.
JOINING NUDIST COLONY!
Must sell washer and dryer £100.
WEDDING DRESS FOR SALE .
Worn once by mistake.
Call Stephanie.
**** And the WINNER is… ****
FOR SALE BY OWNER.
Complete set of Encyclopaedia Britannica, 45 volumes.
Excellent condition, £200 or best offer. No longer needed, got married, wife knows everything.
🙂
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Just to acknowledge this hph. But those little gems have been around for some years.
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An oldy but a goody hph
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Thanks Vivienne & Algernon, I’m always bit behind in these matters. Why am I always the last one to know ? 🙂 Someone emailed them to me the other day.
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What is the Carlyle Group? Who are the people behind the name? And how much power does Carlyle have?
48 minute documentary about the depth of corruption and deceit within the highest ranks of U.S. government.
This program was broadcast on VPRO Netherlands TV.
(there is a space after the dot)
www. youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Tqb7Wf_KCG8
Note: The first one minute forty seven seconds of this program is in broadcast in Dutch, The remainder is in English.
Translation of the first one minute forty seven seconds of this program:
“The war in Iraq does not seem to be over al all, but in the meantime the rebuilding has already started. This has unleashed fierce competition for contracts, which are mainly awarded to American (ed: U.S.) companies.
What is remarkable about these companies, is that they have people on their payroll from American politics and the military. Is this a conflict of interest, or is this the new global way of doing business?
[text in the screen at this time reads: ‘the iron triangle’]
One of the companies that operates in this manner is the Carlyle Group.”
On their payroll are people like : George Bush (Sr.), James Baker III and old premier John Major.
The Carlyle Group is a private investment bank which doesn’t come to the publics attention very often but it is one of the biggest American (ed: USA) investors of the defense industry, telecom, property and financial services.
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Terry Barnes’ piece on the Drum – it is a fairy tale. Takes a strange talent to write so much rot.
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Christmas crap from the Torys who are in denial.
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Most of the comments thought so too.
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I’ve had a couple comments up but basically it seems they are hitting the THB for the mods as they are not used to people making sense. So much garbage. But I’m loving the latest Tony foot in mouth etc over Credlin. Proving himself the fool and the nutcase he is has become a daily event. Do you think Liberal voters are at all embarrassed?
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I’ve been gobsmacked at both TA and the Lib sycophants. Good on you for fighting the good fight. As you say, many comments aren’t getting through.
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My Liberal fan club will be missing me.
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Helvi made a good comment at Torture blog. Now, wait for Kraken to drop by…
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…like a giant lobster pot.
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No, he kept his head down this time… unless he’s wearing a different mask.
I replied to BT just now. Let’s wait and see if it shows up in the morning !
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There he is..he he.. promptly took my bait 🙂
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