The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.
NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.
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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off. Like a sack of prawn heads in the sun. Something had to be done.
Moderation was taking forever. Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged. When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !
So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit. And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.
As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire. And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.
So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog. Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity. Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.
And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments. Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.
Cheers,
Emm.
Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
Excellent reply h…When I read it I nearly fell off my chair. I was laughing so hard my ribs were starting to hurt.
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Annabel Crabb hosts Q&A tonight !
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My fan club – Forrest Gardener and The Other John – have become extra nasty lately and I reckon today’s effort from FG is OTTP. I’ve replied that I think he has gone bananas (yet to turn up). Does anyone here think my comments are always ‘hate filled’?
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It’s on Verrender’s piece.
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TOJ is clearly a troll. I’ve posted this, lets see if it gets up.
When I read your comments here TOJ all I see is ad hominem. You seem content to abuse others yet not prepared to offer an opinion of your own. I also see that you are prepared to follow others around put up a comment for the sake of it. Would it be correct to suggest that your a troll.
For the record, Hockey hasn’t thought this through properly, he rarely does. I though the whole idea of Superannuation was that it was quarantined until a certain age and take pressure of the pension. This idea is just a sugar hit whilst creating a huge hole well into the future.
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It got up Algy. I note that no one supports Hockey’s brain fart. Can’t work out why those sods on the Drum say what they do because none of them supported the concept either – just attacked again and again with the kind of drivel the moderator should have sent to the bin.
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None at all Vivienne. Your comments are not hate-filled. He is just trying to portray you as one. Don’t play into their games. FG is another stormtrooper of the liberal party.
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FG and TOG are obviously conservative trolls. I suspect they are paid to peddle dogma from Young Liberals 101.
I f they weren’t picking on you, they would be picking on someone else. Low brow stuff.
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A very nasty pair. Always have been but getting extra vicious lately.
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A fun day out today. The right wing fiddlers are in a lather I see. They think the latest poll is a ringing endorsement of Adolf. Let em dream on.
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And they think the intergenerational report is a blueprint for the future. They think that people are picking on poor old windbag Joe.
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What I don’t understand is if you were 20 in 1990 you have sufficient super to retire in 2035 or so therefore no pension required, yet Big Joe seems to have missed that point.
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Hockey doesn’t get a lot of things Hung, seems to forget that those of us that were working prior to the introduction of compulsory super didn’t have super. Does he think it will be enough when its time to retire at 9.5% it should have been something like 15%. Tories hate universal superannuation.
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Add to that all the crap about never be so many oldies, 100 year olds etc – look at the Population Pyramd – never been so many 10 yo, 20, 30 etc. More people everywhere. None of it is as bad as Hockey pretends. If he doesn’t want so many oldies, cut migration – migrants get old too.
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You could add the BS that he comes up with about unemployment. His latest bit he said that unemployment would now be 7.5% under Labor but is now lower due to his policies. Serious delusion. Business confidence has been down because of his policies for 12 months there is the strong prospect of a recession later this year all due to him. Abbott seriously needs to move him on and replace him with someone economically numerate and literate,
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They’ll are idiots (lying ones).
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Gawd – they are all idiots……………. Scrambles my brain thinking about those brainless farts.
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“Yes, it all looks pretty dismal. A fog of political nothingness hangs heavy and deep sleep has taken over.”
Well said sir, well said. – made the front page –
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Gerard at Jonathan Green’s blog
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The Drum stopped dead in its tracks.
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no it’s moving again !
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Mad as ever:
DocMercury:
04 Mar 2015 1:23:33pm
If Tony gets any more punch drunk as a speaker, he is going to need Stephen Hawking’s chair.
PS. Not a big fan, and even if Turnbull usurped, he’d still be stuck with the rest for whom my loathing blooms, but upon whom a far bigger picture permits indifference and apathy to rule. Thank technology for the TV remote.
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Which article is that on Big M ?
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Lewis and Woods, national security, etc
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‘ave a gander at this kids:
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This made me laugh:
anote:
03 Mar 2015 9:59:47am
Do we still live in a democracy?
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Margie Reen:
03 Mar 2015 10:22:57am
Good point. We have Credlin as de facto PM and now Fraser as de facto Treasurer why bother with politicians.
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Yes as Margies alter ego, simple is best.
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Creepy!
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Very good but the actor is not evil enough. He seems to have a genuine smile.
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He does look like he’s having ay too much fun!
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I finally worked out what’s the problem with good government starting whatever day it was.
Nobody thought to turn off the bad government.
Oh, that’ll be our job – and we’ll get around to it in a year or two…. 😦
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Sometimes Abbott’s mindless stupidity just blows me away.
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In some ways, Hung, God’s gift to satirists has taken it so far that it’s hard to do a better job of ridiculing the arsehole than he does to himself. But the cartoonists are definitely having an absolute field day/ month/year.
God I hope it’s over soon. But what if they swap him out for Malcolm. Shit, he might win the next election – especially if Labor doesn’t get a leader. I reckon a solid vote for Tanya Plibersek is the only way to go. Albo is a good but not great man of the left, but I don’t see him on the world stage as a serious player.
Jesus, John Key in NZ cuts more ice than Tony, not by being a great statesman, just by avoiding looking like a complete fuckwit.
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I agree Boss, not sure why Shorten is coming across better. I saw Tanya on Q&A and was impressed
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peegee73:
02 Mar 2015 9:46:13am
The conservatives in politics, a rented bunch of barking dogs, is on the nose and the decline. Never mind the recent poll, which they probably bought through Rinehart influence. Never have I seen a worse bunch of inebriated liars and ineffectual policy makers in a long professional career of observation, back to Chifley’s wonderful nation building. Abbott leads a shopfront of shonks for Murdoch, Rinehart, Palmer and Lowy interests, reluctantly, but keenly for the pay and the ego depend on it. Victoria and Queensland woke up enough to the simple fact that the advertising is a lie, the results are detrimental and a vote for the enemy would be disastrous.
How can these liars, backflippers, exaggerators and hypocrites get up and go each day? It’s because careerist politicians are scum, but believe they are blessed, bound for glory. They feather future nests, get largesse for their children, slide up the greasy pole of ego and ambition and generally do what must be done to exist and proceed. You and I can get stuffed when a career must be advanced. We need a political system where citizens participate, are rotated regularly and take turns at executive leadership, all to avoid nepotism, corruption, bribery and coercion. No foreign intrusion should be allowed, so out with the traitors like Murdoch. Get tax off everything and everyone earning in Australia by Australian activities. Tolerate no bludging like Lowy and Westfield off shoreing receipts and tax, otherwise use federal police and army powers to shut them down immediately. Build up the nation with these receipts, with some decent roads, etc. The road over the Blue Mountains is still an effing mess as is the Pacific Highway, and yet boofheads dream of super speed rail, or magic cable to play “kill the wog” games or watch porn. A better Australia is possible but not without foreign controlled, profiteering, off shoreing, tax dodging, conservative crooks.
[This came off Paula Matthewson article over at the Dumb. This comment is pure poetry.]
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Pure gold. Can imagine how it got up – unless the ABC has decided that they couldn’t possibly be worse off – and decided to help kill off Abbott and his shitty excuse for a government.
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I read it at the time – as I said elsewhere the new mod is unpredictable. It’s good.
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Wonder what tomorrow will bring us on the Drum.
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Probably be closed by the time I get to comment.
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Do what I do Ace, I blog on a News Ltd website as Don Key. Man, the right wing nuts jobs love to come after me, it’s a little perverse sometimes but I love it.
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I only have time when I get home from work unfortunately. I do read beforehand and give it some thought.
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Has to focus on the Big Tone, how is going to turn it around, good government starts today blah blah blah
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Look I hope he lasts another month so he can help Mike Baird.
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The answer so far – housing.
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Clitoris has big balls:Cly Taurus:
27 Feb 2015 4:47:53pm
One thing is for sure.
Tony Abbott’s public persona has taken on something of my own name, at least in part.
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Cly Taurus:
27 Feb 2015 5:02:52pm
Honestly, this shouldn’t have been published but I got away with it …
Have fun!
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Tried for a reply, but couldn’t get my tongue around it.
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Well I might give Fred the Fart a go then if the mods letting that go.
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Extraordinary.
I had mixed success – got a couple of hard hitting comments up about Abbott which I half expected to not make it (called him a bastard or something along those lines). The new mod is unpredictable.
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None of mine have got up, lately!
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my success rate was: 1 in 5
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🙂
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article by Alan Kohler
TC:
26 Feb 2015 5:01:17pm
Free trade agreements have resulted in untold wealth and opprtunities for Australians. We need access to world markets for our products. We can prevent food poisoning through various means without being anti free trade.
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My two-word response: “Which Australians?” was binned by the coffee boy !
it’s a legitimate question, don’t you think so?
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Agree hph. FTA’s suit multinationals only not the local guy on the corner. Kohler typifies the world of greed, the one he has studied intensely and now loves.
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Oh I know these Alan-Kohler-type of people and what they stand for. But this drum commenter TC is an idiot.
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FTAs are completely one sided.We use a drug that used to cost a few cents a day to administer, now $60/hour. I’m sure there are plenty of other examples. The next big thing is the Pan-Pacific treaty, which will give American companies the right to sue individuals for ‘breaches’ of the agreement.
F%^ed if I know who TC is, a Lib stooge??
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FTAs are shit. Alan Kohler is often way out of his depth.
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Me too. I have an FTA every day
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Free Turd Arrangement.
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Adolf likes them
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Hi Headbangers,
I’m Margie Reen for the next few weeks over at the Dumb
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Nice work, Reenie, you can reply to the rusted on, f*&^ing stupid sycophants that populate the Bum at the moment.
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Are you blogging as Big Mark?
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No, Smokin’ Joe, which is as successful as Big M!
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Just got a new phone and it says No Sim, see even my phone recognizes genius, no simpleton.
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Thanks, Slim.
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I have thought I might try Fred the Fart but somehow I don’t think it would get a look in.
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I’ll keep an eye out – been away from computer shopping for baby gear.
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Are you having a baby Viv? Congratulations, seriously though I don’t now I would cope with all of that again.
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Did you miss my announcement that I was going to be a GRANDMOTHER.
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Nah, just pulling your leg, when is the baby due?
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Yes, Viv, you’re GRAND!
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There was an article in today’s SMH (page 4), where Adolf awarded a “matehood” to the local “newspaper” proprietor. This paper or more appropriately birdcage liner, is referred to locally as the twit. They received a “Mate of Bennelong” for contribution to the community award. This person was recommended by ICAC to be considered for prosecution for giving false and misleading evidence during an inquiry into Ryde City Council.
It should be pointed out that a councillor (former Liberal member) was forced to resign, also 6 councillors were named as possible candidates for prosecutions. The is a by election for the council seat today. One doesn’t understand why the council hasn’t been sacked and an administrator appointed. Then again the Liberals could get control of the council today.
Apparently these “matehood’s” were the brainchild of the B grade tennis player who reckons they should replace knighthoods. Just shows how in touch these Liberal are with the community and their values.
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Absolutely appalling, of course, Adolf Turd was unaware of the ICAC’s interest in Booth, then added that ‘it is innocent until proven guilty’. The total dollar value of council corruption across Australia must be phenomenal.
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I agree Big, I think Local government should be abolished and replaced by regional government in its place. The stench coming from our council has been there for a number of years. The stories I hear behind the scene are almost suggesting criminal activity. Allegedly the Mayor was “king hit” by one of the candidates at one of the polling boots yesterday who allegedly suggested the Liberal party was corrupt. This person who was allegedly hit isn’t shy of a punch up himself, having had a run in with them around the last council election where I suggested the council be sacked for corruption. Led to shouting match with them, very unbecoming it was and the allegations made by them.
Of course another miss step by the master of miss steps. . Cant be long before Adolf is moved.
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Can’t say local council elections are boring !
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Its what the locals want, the candidates and those elected belting the living daylights out of one another. All this came about between tories and ex tories.
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They’re such a mob of Nancy Boys, that I can’t imagine any fisticuffs for fear of breaking a nail.
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How stupid are they now. New posts but unable to comment.
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Maybe the new mod has quit in disgust at the horrid stuff which has been flowing in.
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Dunno my only day of the fortnight and I can’t comment! Maybe the new mod doesn’t know how to push the buttons
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Well they have apologised.
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Yes I see that.
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A bummer for you Algy on your day when you can comment, you bloody well can’t.
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Lets hope they leave it open for the weekend. Mind you one can comment on Facebook. I don’t use Facebook
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I note they’re all the same today. We have the member for Wannon with a piece there today. What its it about the Liberal party and truth. They are words that just don’t go together. His argument is the tired old. Labor, debt, Greece borrow. Partisan nonsense is the best way to describe it. It also demonstrates the quality of the LNP candidature.
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I am on facebook but I have no intention of commenting on any Drum thing on FB. Just use FB for family stuff and keeping in touch with a few others.
Drum should have put up a further note explaining what the F is going on.
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Yes, a bloody waste of time. I do repost the occasional ABC article to FB, but I don’t really expect most people to be discussing it.
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There are some really nice human beings on this planet. I wonder if the man who likes being whipped and barks up the wrong tree has read this:
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Ben Nallay:
19 Feb 2015 9:46:18am
“Governments that fail to provide moral leadership will inevitably lose their moral authority.”
There’s something even a toothache can’t stop me from laughing at this morning. Thank you Dr Hugh. Past tense would have been more appropriate but that would not have seemed so naive and laughable. There’s probably a reference to morality somewhere in the government regulations. Have you looked up ‘religion’ yet?
If everyone on Manus or Nauru was shot by a firing squad tomorrow, and died, it would save Taxpayer’s Money and help reduce global warming. Both sides of politics will be happy.
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velcro:
19 Feb 2015 1:22:17pm
Ben, surely the children are innocent of any of the wrongdoing as you seem to perceive. I don’t know if you are a parent who could understand, surely you would extend them some mercy.
In life and beyond, all expect mercy; therefore fundamental morality asks that you show mercy to all of your fellows.
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Ben Nallay:
19 Feb 2015 2:14:29pm
Thanks Velcro, I do try to when I’m feeling well and wealthy and merciful, and I don’t discriminate between gender or race or age or even species, etc., etc.
It’s the prospect of a secular government having anything to do with morality that I found so extremely funny I forgot about the toothache for those vital few minutes before the codeine did its job.
Morality to a public servant is to selectively screw over the maximum possible number of others whilst attempting to make it appear as though one is kind and helpful. It’s because of money that otherwise potential nice people turn into monsters. That’s human nature.
We already have a budget deficit, apparently, so let them stop pandering to the CWA and get rid of these festers brutally forced on the Taxpayer and its Money. Sink the damn boats. There’s plenty of wide open sea out there and nobody has to know.
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I wonder how Ben wants to be treated when he has his myocardial infarct, stroke, bowel cancer, or just gets dementia and shits himself, because, if he lives long enough, he may get to enjoy one or all of these. The lack of compassion is just appalling.
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Ben’s a lovely creature isn’t he. Best to ignore him, maybe these ultra right wing bowel movements might just go away.
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Guess who’s on the front cover of Time Magazine? Not me but I’m on the front cover of The Men’s Shed (thanks Gez)
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Oh and to any one that is interested, old versions of Father O’Way have been reloaded into The New Hung One On, who ever he is.
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Is it available at Newsagents Hung?
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Fucked if I know Viv, ask Gez, but look here, http://www.theshedonline.org.au/ then members articles, I mean with the last part the irony is delicious.
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Thanks, Hung, will you be making wooden toys, and bowls on a lathe??
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Your story was followed by Gerard’s on Erectile Dysfunction, or, as he calls it, getting old. So much to look forward to.
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You’re famous now.
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Is there a link, or do we have to pinch one from a pensioner?
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Look in the list of categories Brother
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I had Emms face at Medicare once. Now we’re looking at the Hooster if we can find the link. The Pigs is famous
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Scary, I saw it too, Seniors Week I think
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This is Hung
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Except the cocaine and if you don’t like this please feel for a pulse
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I found a copy of that floating around the home office/’study’/man cave only yesterday.
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Seniors Week AND Emm’s face.
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Yep, scary
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I know how to make a proppa cuppa tea, the traditional British way. Can I get a job at the ABC?
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What way would that be – the proper way?
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Yes, Vivienne – the proper way.
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Hurrah… The coffee boy is back in action !
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The moderator doesn’t allow me to respond to a specific commenter at Peter and Jackie blog. I wonder why? 🙂
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See what I mean .. Now the moderator is posting a few comments and replies at this time of the night !
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Thanks, a comment I made at lunch time has just appeared.
The article on Sarah Ferguson has no comments, yet.
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The article on Barnaby Joyce probably has no comments, because there is nothing much to discuss.
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The Ferguson article had 69 comments AFTER midnight!
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Yes, I just saw it. Perhaps Vivienne can send an email to what’s-his-name Texan at the ABC and find out what’s happened to the Drum ?
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More of the same today. Hours go by with no comments published.
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Yes. I’d bet that there are dozens of replies to already-published comments but the mod is not posting them. Strange !
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I sent him one relatively recently and unlike my earlier experiences, received no reply.
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Something strange is happening at the Drum, Vivienne ! I wonder if the LNP-government is doing something hurtful to the ABC ?
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Perhaps the cuts have been so bad that the coffee boy moderates between washing mugs and refilling the urn.
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🙂
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The Sarah article suddenly has 182 comments after sitting there doing nothing all day with 85 comments. My 9.04 am comment has appeared. This effing ridiculous.
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Tell me about it ! He is so slow… How long does it take to wash a couple of mugs ?
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It completely stuffs up any debate. All those Libs posting the same drivel and lies. The mod has let through so much garbage. Lost the plot again. So disappointing.
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That coffee boy’s slow, thinks ‘e’s a barista, makin’ ‘cupsachino’ outa blend 43.
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That’s it. Coffee Boy went home to get some sleep. He’ll be back by 10 pm tonight. I’ll get my cup of coffee ready by 9 🙂
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Probably sent orff to Coleses, or K-market to get more instant.
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Have you noticed the Mungo blog is now closed. One out of five at the end of the day. Pathetic!
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So is Berg’s blog. Pathetic!
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Just popped in to say much the same. Articles open but nothing happening, new ones stalled and I’m having little luck. Bugger. They are doing their darndest to piss everyone off.
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hello earth to Drum…can you hear me ? hello..hello…….. 🙂
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Virtually none of mine got up today hph, I wonder why they take offence at Chris Berg is a dickhead
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hah, hah, haaaaa…. C B is a D…
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I see nothing has changed since Lunchtime. Same posts and same amount of comments
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Either they have some kind of a system failure.. or…they are in orbit 🙂
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I can’t understand why the Drum fail to understand that Chris Berg is a c$%k sucker
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which one ?
cark, cask, cauk, cawk, chik, cock, conk, cook, cork, cowk, cusk, chalk, chark, check, cheek, chick, chink, chirk, chock, chook, chuck, chunk, clack, clank, cleek, clerk, click, clink, cloak, clock, clonk, cluck, clunk, crack, crank, creak, creek, crick, croak, crock, crook, cruck, caprock, carjack …. 🙂
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I think its chook hph
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🙂
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So much vile disgusting commentary on the Drum regardng the HRC’s Ms Triggs.
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Vile, disgusting, and mostly idiotic, whilst the same children continue to rot in detention. Then there is the ‘worse things happened under Rudd/Gillard therefore we have to do nothing….’ argument. Even Elizabeth Elliot was lambasted for her article.
Why do we bother to get experts to investigate such things, when we could get zing, or gbe to do it, on the cheap, from their keyboards?
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Yes Vivienne. That aside, drum moderation has become a joke. Julia Baird’s article is sitting there for three hours and the mods didn’t post a single comment. This afternoon they posted 6 comments on one article and 1 comment on another and nothing for the rest. Last night was very strange; at around 10-11 pm they posted a few comments on one article and that was all. The mind boggles !!! Are they on crack or something ?
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Check out Chris Berg blog:
42 comments, 0 replies.
Time-stamp: First post 9:20 am; Last post 12:53 pm !!!
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Yes, hph, many articles published by 07:45, no comments until close to 10:00, then random numbers throughout the day/evening.
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They seem to sleep during the middle of the day, siesta perhaps
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Or they are genuinely fucked, even some of my very benign comments didn’t get through.
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Are they having another go at killing it off? Maybe only one moderator and she/he is sick. Someone should put up an explanation as to what is going on (not going on).
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ABC News Article: Copenhagen shootings: Manhunt underway after deadly attack at synagogue and café
Comment by: cf zero
2:36 PM on 15/02/2015
If muslims are not able to tolerate offensive behaviour without resorting to killing people then we have to question why we tolerate this culture at all and if it has a place in a society outside the middle east. During WW2 both Japanese and German’s living abroad were confined for the duration of the war, perhaps we need to start confining muslims for the duration of the war on terror.
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“perhaps we need to start confining muslims for the duration of the war on terror” !!!!!!
Who can say history doesn’t repeat itself. Maybe Muslims should be forced to wear a badge in the form of a Yellow Crescent as a means of identification in public.
Lucky for Cf Zero that we don’t have lunatic asylums in Australia anymore…
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Perhaps we need to confine arseholes for the duration?
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