The Dump

The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.

NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.

give a crap

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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off.  Like a sack of prawn heads  in the sun.  Something had to be done.

Moderation was taking forever.  Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged.   When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !

So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit.  And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.

As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire.  And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.

So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog.  Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity.  Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.

And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments.  Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.

Cheers,

Emm.

15242 thoughts on “The Dump”

  1. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-11/nt-minister-nathan-barrett-resigns-amid-sex-video-allegations/7502236
    “While this is essentially a private matter that my wife and I have been working through for some time, I unreservedly apologise to my family, the people of my electorate of Blain, my parliamentary colleagues, the party, and the men and women in the Department of Sport and Recreation and Youth Affairs,” he said.
    [All class]

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  2. Where oh where is Wally?

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  3. Anon E Mouse:

    09 Jun 2016 4:54:19pm

    The unemployment figures might look better, but they hide the fact that full-time employment has fallen drastically and these are part time casual jobs. It is smoke and mirrors accounting.

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    DoctorWhatTha:

    09 Jun 2016 6:39:37pm

    That’s true for me. At one stage I had to juggle five different jobs in a week. I was still only making $100 more than I would get on the dole, then only before rent assistance. Every one I know is employed under sham contracts and the ATO knows it and doesn’t care, as I found out last year. For many like me things like insurance, super and decent hours or even penalty rates are little more than a fantasy. An ACCC investigation into the cleaning industry would effectively wipe out most of the industry overnight. Literally in this case. Although considering what happened after the 7/11 investigation, maybe not. I sometimes wonder why the hell anyone works for a living. And I think about my classmate Colin, who inherited his fathers multi million dollar boat business within a few years of leaving school. And a couple of years after leaving Uni. Works more than twice my hours of course, earns somewhere between 10 to 15 times my income, possibly more. And the lib’s are going to give him a tax break in a couple of years he’ll use to put in a rock garden or get the windows cleaned in his yacht or something. When even the wealthy admit they’re not paying their fair share of tax, all I can do is laugh. We actually vote for these numb-nuts. So what does that make us.

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    (Baa – Baa Baaa…. sheep)

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  4. I sent this to Big Ben:

    ” Ding dong ding dong – Dong ding ding dong ”

    ..but it didn’t make it 🙂

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  5. Julia Zemiro’s page

    AJ: [to Desert Woman]

    07 Jun 2016 2:29:58pm

    They have a right to be acknowledged even by cold hearted serial man hating bitches such as your self.

    Unless of course you really do want the victim wagon to roll on and on and on.

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    !!! something is definitely wrong with The ABC.

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  6. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Anyone noticed that some time ago the ABC stopped having Comments on news items.

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  7. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    Over 200mm since it started and no sign of let up

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    • The Northern Beaches have been hammered. A Pascha Bulka storm was forecast for Newcastle, but it hasn’t been so bad. Some of our staff may be flooded in, but I haven’t been at work to find out!!

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        Still gentle rain here. Seeing it all on the news of course – you and Paris ! Actually the rain has just stopped. I’ve been playing Algy’s music and took a side track through a pile of Cyndi Lauper stuff. Been good.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        Just went through ABC photo gallery of wet stuff in Sydney, Bellingen and Newcastle – floods all right. We’ve had more than our fair share of storms over recent years – funny how they never makes the state/fed news. Albury has done a lot of flood mitigation work over the years – before that they had a lot of flooding.

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        225mm (9in) since it started on Friday, more than double what we’ve had in the last four months.. Thought it might stop for a bit this afternoon then it came back again with vengeance. Radar looks like it might stop in an hour or so. That wave at Coffs Harbour looked rather large.

        Ironic it’s about 9 years to the day since the Pasha Bulka.

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        • That was the last time I had a bad flu. Woke up to find that a man was drowned in a gully box about a km from our house.

          I don’t know why the Pasha was instantly something to celebrate. All of the ships were instructed by the Harbour Master to leave, and get about 20 ks off shore. The captain of the Pasha moved too late, so got grounded. That section of coast is pretty dangerous, over a hundred ships have gone aground on Stockton beach.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          People not doing what they are told and the consequences. I’d only remember it as it happened just before the long weekend and off to a mates 50th.

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  8. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    How are the ducks?

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Nice and steady here – proper rain and it’s a relief.

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        50-75mm since it started raining last night, which is 10 times what we had last month and about what we’ve had in 4 months. Suns trying to poke through at the moment. Had to drive Junior to the airport in the weather this morning in it, what a joy.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          65 points here overnight (divide by 4 to get mls). We got just over 4 inches in May.
          Trip to airport must have been a bit nerve racking. Driving in heavy rain is not nice. I used to do it in Sydney on my bike! The things we do when young. Someone came off our road to the village yesterday morning, rolled car but got out unscathed though no doubt shock will set in soon.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Wasn’t a lot of traffic fortunately until we got to the airport. Took longer to get from the domestic to the international than it did to get there. Problems on the M5 apparently. Could have got there 15 minutes earlier if I took the right lane. Most were driving cautiously except the dicks in Mercs Audls and BMWs. Plenty of water across the road.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          So where’s junior headed off to and when will he be back?

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Canada and US West Coast. Due back on 2 July, however that might change. He’s meant to be going to the company he works for headquarters for three weeks for some training. For a while they’ve been trying to make it coincide with his holiday. Looks more likely he’ll come back for a couple of weeks then fly to the East Coast for about three weeks..

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Sounds great. Hope all goes well in every way.

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  9. Like I said SeaM. A mention of Nordics and you hit the roof. 🙂 I was wondering how long it would take you to drop in today. You’re so predictable. 🙂
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    Andrew Thomas:
    02 Jun 2016 3:39:14pm

    Hi Helvi,

    I note with some irony that several of the responses rebuking your original post actually help to prove your point.

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    • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

      What makes you think I’m angry?

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      • Your predictability.

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        • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

          Sounds like a non-sequitur to me.

          So predictably countering hype about the social superiority of Sweden is angry? What am I supposed to do?. Let BS stand?

          Is it angry when I predictably counter the hype about superior LNP economic management? Or BoM climate conspiracy theories?

          You know who was cranky? OneNation. Really flipped out. Looks like s/he got her/himself sidelined in short order.

          I don’t know why they do it. Stay calm, stay reasonable, stay lucid, stay relevant, you stay in the game.

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  10. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    It is just me ? I’m finding Drum articles boring/uninspiring.

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  11. What do you think of Terri Butler?

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      I thought she handled last nights Q&A pretty well. She’s not stupid. Steve Ciobo is a bear with a very small brain. He was at a friends significant birthday some years ago, Had a ten minute tirade from him, made a real goose of himself, he hasn’t changed. Di Natale made some silly comments at times and nailed it at others.

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  12. Ha ha ha, fabulous GT

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  13. Jean Oliver:

    30 May 2016 10:11:14am

    Rubbish – no clear win according to most commentary. It was neck and neck boring until the last ten minutes when Shorten landed a few good knock out blows. Shorten just won it and Turnbull lost it by insulting our intelligence with the usual Liberal Lies. If $50 Billion in company tax cuts is not SPENDING I don’t know what it is anymore.

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    dr dig:

    30 May 2016 11:58:26am

    Jean, it wouldn’t matter for people like you if Shorten personally conceded defeat in a debate you would find a way to spin it into a Labor victory. You knew who was going to win the debate in your eyes before the debate even began.

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    [Dr Dig officially now on the dickheads list]

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  14. Son of Zaky:

    30 May 2016 12:03:31pm

    Typical alarmist.

    1. Sovereign debt is plant food.

    2. Sovereign debt happened in the Little Ice Age.

    3. Sovereign debt isn’t caused by humans.

    4. Sovereign debt is just an excuse for economic scientists to run a scare campaign to milk the public for research funding.

    5. Andrew Bolt has told me sovereign debt is a socialist conspiracy – that’s good enough for me.

    6. Even if sovereign debt is happening (which it isn’t, so there), we need to find ways to adapt to it rather than wrecking our economy trying to prevent it.

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    [I think I have a love hate relationship with SoZ]

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  15. Why were the Greens not part of that piece of absurd theatre they called “debate?”
    And who would have won it if they were?

    If this was a debate then it was between Murdoch’s decrepit old testicles. His left one said “Yes” and his Right one said, “Yes, Sort of, anything you say, boss.”

    This was not a political debate but a sickening spectacle of brain rape.
    I hope we won’t be subjected to any more of such crap.
    “Days of our Lives” is much more engaging!

    And I daresay that the number of people who would have watched this nauseatingly boring farce of insults to our intelligence would fit comfortably within the confines of a pencil case.

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    • C’mon GT chill a bit mate 🙂

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      • OK.

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        • That is so unlike you GT, I expected a dressing down and an essay. Anyway cheers mate haven’t heard from you in a while 🙂

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          • HPH:

            30 May 2016 3:38:15pm

            Ah, 67 yrs old! .. I’m getting there slowly, RC. The great thing about getting older is that you don’t lose all the other ages you’ve been. I live in that solitude which is painful in youth, but delicious in the years of maturity :)))

            “Ah, but I was so much older then
            I’m younger than that now.”

            –Robert Allen Zimmerman

            ?Dylan

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        • Yep. Zimmerman and Dylan – they both are the same person 🙂 🙂

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        • I have a six-month young grand daughter now, Mark and with but one glance of hers, I am kept very pliant.
          She has Zeus’ ear and Apollo’s eye and she can see everything I do and… but she is most merciful and gives me the juiciest, most heart melting hugs anyhow.

          And she agrees wholeheartedly with my politics.

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  16. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    More on the Liberal candidate for McEwen

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    • This is the sort of talk at election time

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    • Another tool ready to serve for the benefit of the top 1%. He forgot to peruse the manuscript from the Liberal head office before confronting Bill Shorten, didn’t he? What policies? …Liberals don’t have policies for the people of Australia. They follow the instructions from Big Business.

      (what do you say I’m-not-a-socialist-SeaM?)

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        I watched the debate on Landline today. Barking mad Barney was there between Joel Fitzgibbon and Richard Di Natale. This clown one heartbeat from the Prime Ministership sprouting lie after lie. On telecommunications he was telling of the job the government was doing building mobile towers,. Really telco’s build them not the government. But the biggest lies had to do with the tying the livestock ban with Indonesia sending refugee boats. The crowd was horrified that he’d lie like that. No wonder Bishop went into damage control. Too bad that party brown noses like John can’t see the damage he’d done

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        • Born-in-a-barn-Joyce, Mathiass and the rest … LNP politicians are running around like headless chooks.

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          And still the journos think that the LNP will most likely win even though the polls are telling us that Turnbull’s popularity is falling off a cliff and Labor is in front. Lets see what the debate does for credibility.

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      • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

        Well seeing you ask,I agree. I make that point consistently on The Drum. I don’t know how you’re not getting it.

        I’m always banging on about vested interests and chrony capitalism.

        This has been a constant source of bemusement on The Drum from day one. People don’t seem to read or comprehend my comments. They seem to assume what my position is.

        Or use their detective skills to deduce that I hold positions that I have never expressed. Like: SM pointed out a lot of Scandinavians vote for racist parties; he is therefore a devoted Abbott fan.

        Case in point is people who assume my criticism of Labor is an endorsement of Liberal. Particularly as I criticise Liberal just as often.

        Another point I consistently make is that Labor is also for vested interests. Don’t vote for either of them.

        I’m baffled by the socialist reference here. Do you think Labor is still a socialist party? Shorten is a dry and certainly to the right of me on economics. So are Keating and Carr for example.

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        • I should have added two more question marks after that single one. The question was not about you SM …or about me. Don’t take everything I say personally. But since you mentioned it, I’ll say it again. There is no lack of comprehension on my part as to what your position is. You are a capitalist. Whenever you criticise Liberal or Labor, you are a capitalist. Even when you are banging on about ‘vested interests and crony capitalism’, you are still a capitalist. But whenever I mention how good the Nordic Model is, you always hit the roof and straight away rubbish their system.

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        • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

          I take it by “capitalist” you mean a person that believes most capital should be privately owned and the free market should resolve the economic questions on most occasions.

          Rather than the more correct: person who owns and accumulates the means of production (capital).

          But why single me out? The majority of Australians are capitalist. The majority of Labor politicians are capitalist. The majority of Labor Party members are capitalists.

          Several people who frequent this page own or have owned small businesses. Not me . I’m a professional manager.

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  17. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    Looks like the Liberals have picked another brain dead candidate. This time in McEwen. Held by Labor with a 0.15% margin.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-28/election-2016-chris-jermyn-bill-shorten-flees-media-medicare/7456146

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  18. I did the vote compass today and apparently I identify most with the Greens. My senate vote is going to Jacqui Lambie or Ricky Muir. Maybe I’m a latent petrol head. 🙂

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  19. Hahahaa.. Just in case if anyone is wondering what is happening between Ben and Major then have a look at the following exchange and see what pissed Ben off. So funny. 🙂
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    Big Ben:

    13 May 2016 11:23:44am

    “church, sport, family, children at home from school.. )”

    Typical rabbie thoughtless as usual. None of those have anything to do with the business, so if you would rather spend all day doing charity work for your church, playing with your balls, playing with your family, then don’t bother looking for a Sunday job. You have six other days in the week to work if you want.

    If you have children and everyone hates them and won’t take care of them for you, then it’s your own fault for having them, and you should train them in menial work such as sweeping and mopping and shovelling, and cleaning windows, so that all your friends and rellies will be happy to pay you for their services on Sundays when you have more important things to do than babysit them. If you don’t try to think of a solution on your own, then expect to enjoy a miserable life for the forseeable future. Som nam naah, it’s what happens to fools.

    If you want to work more than you want children, then don’t have them. It works fine for the rest of us, especially the Sky Fairy.

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    Major hazard:

    13 May 2016 11:54:26am

    Hello Big Ben

    I got this little cell especially designed for anti-social monsters such as you and I woes wondering if you could fit me into your very busy schedule to see if the above mentioned cell would fit your requirements.

    It has top of the range padding it’s completely safe also it provides total isolation so you cannot harm yourself or anybody else. Do your family, friends and your community a favour and visit me as soon as conveniently possible.

    You need locking up for everybody else’s sake

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    Big Ben:

    13 May 2016 12:18:45pm

    You’re playing with yourself on a national opinion forum. Have fun anonymous joker. I don’t like you either, if that makes you happy.

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    Chubblo:

    13 May 2016 3:35:18pm

    Major hazard: Seriously dude you need to chill out with the whole threatening to lock people up thing you have going here.

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    Major hazard:

    13 May 2016 5:32:06pm

    Clubblo

    There is room in the big house for you too, if you want to go around assisting criminals.

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  20. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Looked like we did a tag on Polls don’t mean…. but just a lovely coincidence.

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        Yes I thought so vivienne. That John’s a goose, so many of them there who think its OK to rewrite history and not bother to check the facts.

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  21. And this classic

    Son of Zaky:

    26 May 2016 12:02:01pm

    Hahaha! Do you think that conservatives, having a fully-serviceable and magnificent leader in Abbott (Hahaha!) would abandon him en masse and vote for Palmer instead? Hahaha! Everyone (Hahaha!) knows Tony speaks for every person who votes Liberal (Hahaha!), so why would ANY of them desert him when he was going to CRUSH those lefty scum? Hahaha!

    This must be creative bs week or something. Hahaha!

    It’s coming up magic gibberish week here in Montana isn’t it? I’ve just eaten everything that was in my slops bucket. Hahaha!

    By the way, I am a mortal sin against rationality. I don’t even know what that means, and I’m not paying any penance because I don’t know what that means either and I’m already paying too much and it’s all Labor’s fault. Hahaha!

    Did I mention Hahaha?

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    [Simply marvelous]

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  22. garybenno:

    25 May 2016 9:55:17pm

    Without John Boyd this marriage would not have got off the ground, no way Malcolm would have met with the parrot in the shadows of a Hyde park toilet. This does have an odour of desperation, Mr. Turnbull would not cosy up to the likes of Jones unless it was absolutely imperative. I can’t see this move as being a winning one.

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    [And so the rot continues]

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  23. (Aaaah this one is funny too)
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    Big Ben:

    26 May 2016 11:24:37am

    ” the current ratings are not encouraging.”

    That looks like good news to me. The libs are a cruel and greedy, divisive government, but they’re not near as dangerous and destructive as the last labor government/s was/ere, or as evil as any potential future labor government is certain to be, after hearing the muck that Shorten is spouting on camera once again.

    I would like to see both of them fall off a cliff and drown in the sea.

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    Son of Zaky:

    26 May 2016 12:11:12pm

    Fall off a cliff AND drown in the sea?

    A true raving imbecile would have had them aborted, smothered them at birth, run over them with a bus, shot them, immersed them in acid, pulled out their fingernails with pliers, and only then turfed them over the cliff and watched them drown at sea.

    You obviously have great promise in your chosen profession, but you really need to start expanding your horizons. No-one ever got to the state of perfect incoherence by being timid you know.

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  24. Sir Robert of Lindsay:

    25 May 2016 6:40:12pm

    Malcolm WON’T ever lose the conservative votes. They’ll vote for him safe in the knowledge both Abbott and Morrison won’t lose their seats.

    All he did today was pretty much confirm the fire sale of his soul to the devil that is the loony right of his party with his sucking up to this pathetic excuse for a human.

    He may get a few elderly ladies change their votes because that nice Mr Jones, who sends the occassional bunch of flower to old mothers in between his public toilet visits, had a nice little chat with him

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    [Good one Sir Robert]

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    • Yes Credlin certainly wants Tony in the head job.

      Posted by that naughty Sir Hung. Can’t see this getting up, guffaw

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        I’ve just started reading the Road to Ruin. Savva on Credlin – very good read. But book not all that well written so far – chronologically seems to jump all over the place … but I can handle that.

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  25. Turnbull and Jones, happily ever after….
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    Western Union Man:

    25 May 2016 9:33:30pm

    Who bent over first?
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    hah hah haaa that’s funny

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