The Dump

The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.

NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.

give a crap

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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off.  Like a sack of prawn heads  in the sun.  Something had to be done.

Moderation was taking forever.  Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged.   When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !

So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit.  And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.

As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire.  And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.

So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog.  Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity.  Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.

And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments.  Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.

Cheers,

Emm.

15242 thoughts on “The Dump”

  1. (ring ring)
    ..
    (ring ring)

    (ring.. Mark answers the phone)

    Mark: “Yeah who duck is this?’

    Hph: “It’s me hph..”

    Mark: “What the duck do you want?”

    Hph: “Mark, I need your help. You gotta help me!”

    Mark: “Yeah! What the duck did you do this time you duckhead?”

    Hph; “Mark, I’m in the shit!”

    Mark: “You’re always in shit you shithead”

    Hph: “No Mark, this time I’m in the REAL shit.”

    Mark: “Real or not you’re always in shit.”

    Hph: “Mark listen to me… I am in a tank full of real shit”

    Mark: “Get the duck outta here.”

    Hph: “That’s what I’m trying to do Mark help me”

    ……….
    {Someone else can do rest}

    🙂

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  2. The banning of selling petrol and diesel fuelled cars is getting closer in The Netherlands.
    http://time.com/4298742/netherlands-petrol-diesel-vehicles-ban-pollution-electric/

    ( PS Havanna Liedown, did you watch the welcome of refugees in Germany on the ABC 4 corners? Makes you proud to be an Aussie.)

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  3. Q and A … geee that Brendan O’ Neill is a bit of a cornhole, isn’t he? 🙂

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  4. Has anyone been watching Grand Designs New Zealand? There are some really wacky people over there. 🙂

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    • Are male nurses still called ‘sister’? I suppose nurse for both sexes. Mind you, there are now many more sexes about. You wouldn’t know who is taking the bed pan now. All the Lgbtq with hogb and even lrrci. (long range reversible idiosyncratic orientations.)

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  5. We will decide who comes here and the manner by which they come. (John Howard). It seems, now that Vietnam is saying that, all Aussies are up in arms

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    • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

      Thousands of Australian are in Vietnam for the official ceremony at Vung Tau. A second less formal event was planned for the Long Tan site.

      Initial approval was granted for Long Tan but then withdrawn when local authorities became concerned at the growing numbers planning to attend.

      Turnbull intervened. Then his Vietnamese equivalent intervened. The local authorities agreed to allow smaller groups in phases.

      Unfortunately many missed out. Including Harry Smith who led D Company in the firefight 50 years ago.Harry was interviewed for ABC Radio news this morning he found the circumstances “disappointing but expected”.

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      We all know that the beige coloured statesman it responsible for much of the social and economic mess that the country now finds itself in. We all heard him hairy chested claim to a partisan crowd those comments and the use of asylum seekers as pawns in his pursuit of power. He is the on responsible for the hyper racism now on display regarding asylum seekers. Its ironic that Turd now says he shouldn’t have opposed the Malaysian Solution.

      I think it is right that the Vietnamese government stepped in and hosed down expectations for this commemoration if they thought that it was growing out of hand. The Australian Government had ample warning that the Vietnamese government. might intervene here. I’m sure that the Vietnam Vets would have been dignified with their ceremony at the cross at Long Tan. However the Gala Dinner and Concert for something that should be a solemn occasion. Who’s idea was that!

      I have a problem with the jingoistic attitude that government and almost exclusively Liberal Government have to the celebration of war events and anniversaries especially milestone ones. Their ability to metaphorically use the Australian flag as an item of clothing to cheer on yet send others to do their work.

      The Vietnam War was the war I grew up with. From the late 60’s or about the age of 10 onwards I was trying to work out what it all meant. I was in the Scouts and we’d march on Anzac Day but not really understanding what it was about. One year I think it was 1970 we’d come to the end, a drunken RSL committee member commented to we might want the the lemonade and icecreams over there and how we weren’t like the long haired layabouts. Those “layabout” where the leaders who up to 10 years older than me were at risk of being conscripted into a war that they didn’t agree with. I never marched with the Scouts again in a Anzac march.

      As these men came home from the war they were conscripted into the were shunned by these same drunken RSL committee types and others at large unlike their fathers and grandfathers before them. It took more than a decade to gain any sort of recognition.

      I went to a dawn service in 1985 to try and make sense of it and came out none the wiser. Yet after visit to Gallipoli a few months later I got it, the futility of war and the playthings that the ruling classes played. No one ever went there yet a decade later Howard turned the place into the latest lets get pissed place for “tourists”.

      The same a few weeks later when I visited a former concentration camp in Germany of the evils inflicted on others by a tyrant and psychopaths. My father was visiting his parents homeland on an extended trip before WW2. The family told his mother to get out of Europe whilst it was still easy to travel. Which they did, not that he was Jewish.

      Gerard I agree wholeheartedly with your strident comments online about the plight of Asylum Seekers and you calling out of this utterly appalling government’s treatment of of them. The Minister is a buffoon and out of his depth. But I cannot agree with you linking the plight of Asylum Seekers to the blocking of Vietnam Vets visiting the site of a battle they were involved in 50 years ago. Well other than the relevant minister is also a buffoon and way out of his depth, ignoring what he was told.

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      • I understood that about 100 men were involved with Long Tan battle. Yet, a thousand ex-soldiers, some with family and children wanted to visit the sight. A gala dinner and a pop group was to be featured as well.
        Vietnam was bombed and hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese lost their lives in yet another futile war.
        I mean, would we welcome a thousand Japanese ex soldiers remembrance at Darwin featuring a large sake with sushi fest and sumo wrestling?

        Why do those remembrances get so hyped up? Why not reflect and grieve without all the add on?

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        • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

          Ah Gerard I’m with you there the hype has been there for a while. There is no need for it. As for families they attend other theatres of war

          The gala dinner and pop group is tacky and tasteless. I’m unsure of the numbers trying to visit Long Tan either. Yet the government was warned that that the Vietnamese government had concerns had concerns about the numbers weeks ago. Our government just ignored them.

          The Japanese didn’t set foot in Darwin they bombed it and flattened the town as they did in other northern outposts. Japanese visit the former concentration camp at Cowra and have done so for many years and are welcomed by the locals. The Vietnamese welcome their former foes too. In both cases they do so respectfully.

          The Vietnamese government allows two commemoration services a year Anzac Day and 18 August they allow this provided the following protocols are followed. No uniforms or medals, no flags to be raised, no music and speeches to be short and low key. They’ve allowed this for 20 years or so. People can visit at other time with three days notice.

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    • Havana Liedown's avatar Havana Liedown said:

      I claim asylum at your house. Feed me, clothe me. I’m not going to work, so don’t expect me to help around the house. Oh, and my family are due to arrive soon. Too bad if you don’t like it.

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      • You’re welcome to my house Havana. Where are you from and what is your real name?

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        • Havana Liedown's avatar Havana Liedown said:

          Man Haron Monis, from Iran. Thanks hph – what’s your address? Please ensure all food Halal from now on, and no pet dogs are on the premises.

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        • Man Haron Monis from Iran is dead. If you claim you are Man Haron Monis then you are one sick puppy who needs shelter in a mental asylum.

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  6. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    From The Aust: Pauline Hanson says an ATO decision to install squat toilets in its office could spell the end of the Aussie way of life |

    My comment – I never sit on a public toilet. I’m fairly sure men all pee standing up.
    You should get No.2s done before you leave home.

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  7. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    If I here the second Queensland one nation Senator use the words “empirical evidence” when he doesn’t even understand what it means I’ll scream. The man like his leader is a fool

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  8. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    If I here the second Queensland one nation Senator use the words “empirical evidence” when he doesn’t even understand what it means I’ll scream. The man like his leader is a fool

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  9. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    NEWS FLASH from the Aust: Former Liberal frontbencher Sophie Mirabella has got a senior job at Gina Rinehart’s mining company.

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  10. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Aren’t things going swimmingly for all these Lib/Nat governments: Baird’s sale blocked (amazing), Giles in the shit, Dutton in the shit, Turnbull’s Census in the shit, the DD election shit results, WA wants a mining tax etc etc. All this from such brilliant economic managers (their words, not mine). Census website is now working – will people fill it out or just say WTF!

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  11. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-10/nsw-prisons-to-see-1400-extra-beds-old-jails-re-opened/7712570

    Well, there you go. One would think after the abuse in detention centres, government would be actively looking at doing things differently. No, we are getting more jails, more punishment, more prisoners, more re-offenders. It clearly shows that our attention is not on lowering crime by rehabilitation and re-education. No we are pursuing what has proven to be so wrong. Punishment alone does not work.

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  12. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

  13. How is the census going, piglets?

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  14. While here and in the UK, plans are under way to build more prisons, Holland is closing them. They even asked Norway to send a thousand criminals, to at least fill some of the empty cells and keep employing guards.
    http://qz.com/644914/the-netherlands-keeps-having-to-close-its-prisons-due-to-lack-of-prisoners/

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  15. From this:

    https://theconversation.com/capitalism-and-democracy-part-3-63632

    I came across to this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umVj5XQYAi8

    ,,,,,,,,,,,
    What are your opinions?

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  16. Thursday 8 September 2011

    (Simon Critchley is an English philosopher)

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2011/sep/08/history-of-violence-simon-critchley-video

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  17. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    Watching the opening ceremony for the Olympics. The commentators onanism has reached new levels. For Bruce it will be perpetual for 16 days

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  18. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Yay ….. our Census paper work has just been hand delivered. Lady said this was her last road. Phew – thought we might not get counted.

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    • Why do we have to give our names & addresses to the ABS? 🙂

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        They have always had them on list the Census people have when they come to your house. As to exactly why the change to putting it on the form, well I don’t understand. Seems to be a totally unnecessary irritation. It doesn’t bother me – the Taxation Department and Centrelink have all this information and keep it for decades and decades and they have more private info than what they get on the Census Form. Medibank have info too, and your Bank and your Council if you own land.

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  19. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    So Lord Wafflealot has the government he so richly deserves. The second pantsdown senator from Queensland seems a real winner. Loves a conspiracy theory as so many there do, especially around climate change. But then a coal industry “executive” would know that Climate change isn’t real even when the evidence is slapping his face. Seems ignorant of what Islam and a Muslim is. Claims Australia is a Christian country yet would know what a Christian is. Strange I thought the country was a Secular democracy,

    The disaster of the last two weeks suggests that an election for the reps cannot be far away.

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  20. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Got no Census letter, no log in id and no form. Got nothing. Apparently someone is to deliver stuff to the house. I’d rather them send the bloody letter but postmaster (whose son is delivering in the outer areas west of me) says they (ABS) decided we would either be less likely to have the internet or be too stupid to use it. WTF. It’s a ballsup for more reasons than Nick X says.

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  21. Havana Liedown's avatar Havana Liedown said:

    Yep, the detention centre workers should just be spat on, it’s all they deserve.

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