The Dump

The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.

NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.

give a crap

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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off.  Like a sack of prawn heads  in the sun.  Something had to be done.

Moderation was taking forever.  Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged.   When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !

So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit.  And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.

As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire.  And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.

So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog.  Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity.  Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.

And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments.  Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.

Cheers,

Emm.

15242 thoughts on “The Dump”

  1. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    Does anybody know who Tatum Satiago is?

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  2. Bigotry is nothing new. Years ago when Italian and Greek migrants arrived in Australia they were sometimes judged as unsuitable migrants because of eating garlic.

    Yet, eating vile brown vegemite and tinned spaghetti on toast was seen as desirable attributes and perfectly normal.

    Now, wearing what our grandmothers used to wear, a headscarf, is seen by a few enough reason to burn down a theatre.

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  3. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    How come wives of rich American men all seem to look alike? (The white ones.)

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  4. Greg Hunt the New Health Minister and Sport. Wikipedia’s in for a hell of a workout.

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  5. Looks like ICAC Arfur is going to get the Health gig full time now. Abbott band though keep belting the drum for his return. One has to wonder what stuff ups are in store this week

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  6. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Yep, she’s (Ley) a goner. Now just an MP. Still trying to suggest it was all within the rules. Bullshit. Never seen such contrived excuses to fly to Coolangatta and be on the Gold Coast. I see more recently she cut down on her charter flights but still enough to keep her flying licence.
    Turnbull’s meeting the press time was a lot of waffle. Bravely smiling, or trying to.

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  7. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    More on Ley’s charter flights. She is flying them herself. She does have to fly regularly to keep her licence. ww.bordermail.com.au/story/4396575/ley-charges-taxpayers-13000-for-capital-city-charter-flights/?cs=11

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  8. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    From SMH on line 9. Jan 2017 – read it for a good laugh:

    Former speaker Bronwyn Bishop has jumped to the defence of Sussan Ley, accusing socialists of tearing her down and arguing that double standards exist for women and men in politics.
    Ms Bishop, who was herself forced to resign after claiming $5227 in taxpayer-funded expenses for a helicopter ride to a Liberal Party fundraiser, said Ms Ley’s critics were ideologically motivated and fuelled by the “Twitterati” and 24-hour news.
    Ms Ley stood aside as Health Minister on Monday morning pending the outcome of an investigation into her travel claims, following revelations she bought an $800,000 apartment on a taxpayer-funded trip to Gold Coast and has taken 27 flights in and out of the area in recent years, including two for New Year’s Eve engagements.
    Ms Bishop said that she didn’t have specific knowledge of how Ms Ley’s travel was arranged “but I do know that there are socialists out there who want to attack free enterprise and anyone who sticks up for it. And I know that socialists, like alcoholics, will blame anyone but themselves. And whereas alcoholics can damage their own families, socialists can destroy the whole country.”
    The former speaker said the two inquiries into Ms Ley’s expenses – by the Department of Finance and Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet – should be allowed to run their course without the cabinet minister “being attacked by people behaving like a pack of dogs”.
    “But let’s understand that there are people out there who wish to destroy free enterprise and those who stick up for it. Whereas socialism, which is always on the march, if you expose it, it can be defeated. And be under no illusions, whenever you see some of these arguments come to the fore, there will always be an ideological component,” the former member for Mackellar told Sky News.
    “But what’s this got to do with socialism?” pressed host Laura Jayes.
    “A lot, a lot. Socialists will always blame anyone but themselves.”
    Ms Bishop also criticised Labor for its response.
    Acting opposition leader Penny Wong was quick to criticise Ms Ley’s explanation – and Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s decision not to sack the minister – at a press conference on Monday.
    “I found it pretty, pretty disgusting to see the Labor sending out a woman to attack another woman this morning. I don’t think that’s a good look either,” Ms Bishop said.
    “And to be blunt, if you look at the socialist side of the Labor Party, you look at the people in there and the blokes who have…done many more things like that and, quite frankly, nothing happens. So I think there’s one rule for some and a different rule for others.”

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  9. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    Gotta love these Tories, $800k for a unit on a tax payer funded trip to the Gold Coast not a problem. $4000 for flights between Albury, Sydney and Coolangatta for two easy.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-06/ley's-purchase-of-unit-on-taxpayer-funded-trip-'not-planned'/8165414

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    • Barnacle reckons it’s OK, so I guess it must be.

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    • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

      http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/disgraced-former-federal-mp-craig-thomson-running-migrant-placement-scheme-20160920-grk4un.html

      Convicted criminal. Can’t (apparently) afford to repay the money.

      Alleged by the SMH to have submitted internet plagiarism in a report as chair of the Economics Committee.

      Not sacked by Labor because it needed the vote. Then “sacked” by Labor because it needed the vote. Labor paid a settlement for a legal matter to which he was party.

      Now a former politician allegedly offering his expertise to exploit a loophole in the regulations. I love that; when former pollies and public servants get rich showing people how to get around the rules they themselves implemented.

      It just blows my mind that people think there’s a major difference between Labor and Liberal in these matters.

      Labor practices corruption. Labor sends its kids to elite schools. Labor connections get Labor kids cushy jobs. Labor negative gears investment properties.

      What did Emmjay say the other day? Stop settling for the least worst? Well sorry I’ve got to. That’s the system; but I’ll be —kt if I’m going to barrack for either one of them.

      Pigs Arms on systematic Labor self-interest, careerism, bastardy, nepotism and incompetence? Frank Drebin said it best…

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        Do you practise hard at being a fuckwit SM.

        How on earth do you justify what Sussan Ley has done here. I’m commenting on what the POLITICIAN has done here. Purchased a $800k property and fobs it of as a whim from an LNP donor. Just happened to be there, seriously. Business class fares for two from Sydney to Brisbane return for two as well as full fares from Albury to Sydney so she can sit in the front seat. Don’t believe me, I fly on business every 4-6 weeks and have to fly at the lowest available fare.

        And please what does Craig Thompson who hasn’t been a politician since 2013 have to do with this clear rort.

        I don’t care which party a pollie is from if they’re rorting the taxpayer. Obeid for example needs to have his assets stripped from him whilst he rots in jail. I also think the state of politics is incredibly poor and has been for a while. And I agree with his sentiments, but then I guess you didn’t read the comments.

        I’ll take you a bit more seriously when you get around to posting a piece here for others to comment on rather than being contrary.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        Well Algy beat me to it – I second his post. He’s spot on. Your post has nothing to do with rorting pollie perks and the sickening attitude to honesty which all Lib MPs seem to excel at.

        I’m still trying to figure out how much of Ley’s charter flight costs ($100,000 odd in one year) are in fact her charging top rates for the use of her own plane which she proudly flies around the electorate for which she is known as the Farrer Flyer.

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      Oh look the helicopter pilots got in on the act..

      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jan/09/bronwyn-bishop-blames-socialists-for-criticising-sussan-ley-over-expenses

      And the Gold coast is the place to be for New Year too.

      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jan/09/sussan-ley-used-taxpayer-money-for-gold-coast-events-with-multi-millionaire

      But she stood aside. Malcolm thinks ICAC Arfer is a good fit for the moment.

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  10. I am cleaning and baking. Son of Sandshoe the Younger will be here tonight overnight with his 2 mini-people girl and boy ages 6 and going for 5.

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    • I hope it is good for you shoe

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Lovely.

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    • To you, Mark and to you, Vivienne I so thank you. It was a lovely visit. I so appreciated knowing your comments were here.

      My relationship with them isn’t established in familiarity so it was a steep learning curve for us all.And in heat wave conditions too. What lovely kids and I mean including the Dad, Son of Sandshoe the Younger too. Lovely, truly lovely having them here.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        Well do keep the relationship going Sandshoe. I’m so lucky to have both my daughters living only half an hour’s drive away. Granddaughter Olivia is now 17 months young and just so darn fabulous. All so much better than the horror of a relationship I had with my mother who cut herself off completely from any contact 17 years ago (she is now deceased) – all over imaginary doings which aren’t worth going into but that had been her strange way since I was 22.

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      • Thank you, Vivienne. Yes, as well as I can and you are fortunate to have a happy relationship with your daughters, and that they are nearby. My immediate neighbours all have local grandchildren in their lives. I see the continuity and what life advantages there can be in long term relationships between family for everybody. I do wish for everybody they had the opportunity and as well each of my three daughters. There are some real bad stories aren’t there of loss.

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      • I remember to mention, Vivienne, that Son of Sandshoe the Older is visiting in March. I think he will be able to tarry for a while so I look forward to that too. I have visited the kids but these visits are the first to me here. That’s really nice. 🙂

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      • Lovely to hear that, ‘shoe, it’s bloody difficult. Sometimes just establishing a fraction of a relationship is hard. I hope they come again!!

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        • Thank you Big. Kind and insightful I know thoughts. I am lightened the two blokes are going the distance. I hope they do it again. x

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  11. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    Wacko first post of the new year. Happy New Year everyone

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    • Does he have a cat?

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      • maybe for his racquet. Fancy getting a knighthood for hitting a tennis ball. or for running a race.. Bit like getting an OBE for scoring 7 runs. No wonder Adolf Turd gave Prince Philip a knighthood.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Ridiculous isn’t it. Still, in the not too far distant past Oz PMs dished them out willy nilly to friends and to donors.

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        Too true, mostly brown noses of the Liberal Party. We had an old lady where I grew up, who literally begged the local member to give her an award. Just to shut her up they gave her a BEM (British Empire Medal). Proud as punch she was, services to the Liberal Party or the like apparently. Too thick to realise it was like a booby prize.

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        • I’ve known a few nurses with AOs, etc. Fuck knows why they got them, not for working hard. I remember Libs were charged, I mean, made a donation of $50000 for an MBE, it’s probably much higher now.

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  12. The car park was eerily empty this morning. Shopping frenzy seems to have died out. I saw a few pale looking people skulking about. They looked like their credit cards.
    Watching ABC news. No respite there with Malcolm dancing a wild unrestrained Hanukah. I reckon he will kiss Trump’s arse next.

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    • What only kiss it. What a sad excuse for a PM he is. How could anybody support apartheid Israel.

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    • Lets hope it won’t last long Gez.

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    • Bob Hawke suggested recently again I hear that we get rid of State governments. It makes me nervous to consider centralised governance. It could go very wrong in the hands of a cruel individual like Turnbull. Of course I think no-one is going to call it for what it is in the US of A and stop the Presidency of Trump. These are crazy days.

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      • Yes, ‘shoe, it always seems good in theory. It makes more sense to nationalise various boards, standards, licensing, etc. Although state governments do a really good job of mistreating individuals.

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  13. Is Hung on leave, does anyone know? I mailed “Sandy Goes All Out for Mary’ to him, yesterday, another explanatory piece.. I’ve not heard that he has received it..’

    We’ve no power. I mean electricity. This will be my last correspondence for a while. Mobile phone ‘s been on charger since early hours. Howsoever, battery is flat but I suppose this must be how long I’ve had no power, about 5 hours, give or take I skimmed FB to get the news. Richard Adams, Carrie Fisher have stepped out of the building.

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    • I was cross posting with Hung I think and the battery simultaneous to writing to acknowledge it died. All good, Hung.

      Power restored here. I heard cheering in the street and a voice carry, excited, “That means we can have a cup of coffee .”

      Right on. I’ll go a second.

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    • Hoo?

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  14. Vale Princess Leia. Better stick to the cricket. Seems like every time I watch the news someone else has fallen off the perch.

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    • Who will it be tomorrow Hung. Lets hope they play today. Junior and I are off to day 1 at the SCG.

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    • First the daughter now the mother. Debbie Reynolds has decided to pull the pin.

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      • Really! Oh gosh! That’s my profound comment. I think our generation and associates are dying of grieving, algy.

        Back to the garden and a quick saunter down to shops before afternoon storms. Steamy day. Mud is very fetching I think. I’m covered in it. I wish it would fetch the groceries. 🙂

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        • Very hot here shoe, trying to keep out of it. 38 degrees and still climbing. Need to go out later. The mud would dry out here in an instant

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        • Ditto, here, already sinking a Trotters Best.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Humid here but not too hot. Been pruning lemon trees which grew heaps this year due to the massive rain we had – totally verging on out of control.
          Sad about Carrie and her mum. Tell your loved ones how much you love them – often.
          It’s G & T weather here.

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  15. Mario Milano has died. Never again will we see him battle the likes of Killer Kowalski or Brute Bernard, Killer Karl Kox , Bulldog Brower and Skull Murphy or even Spiros Arion. Vale

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFlX5BJz7lE

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  16. A Merry Christmas and a safe and Happy New Year to all those who freely roam here. A round of Trotters Best.

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  17. Dear friends,

    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all of you and to your families

    …and may the new year be less severe than is predicted! :))))

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  18. Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/20/heres-a-forumla-for-bursting-elitist-anti-elitism

    Our Jeff has nailed it. Particularly interesting is his idea about Podesta’s subterfuge. Oh but he needs to lie…

    That’s why I think the party of Obeid, Thomson , The Terrigals Tripoli, Neal, Alpine Offset, etc, etc, etc, … should be complacent about the it’s own part in the status quo. It’s also the party that though Mark Latham would make a great PM.

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  19. Vale Colonel Potter and Zsa Zsa

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  20. A Happy Holiday (Christmas)

    With the issue of a school in Queensland not toeing the Christian line, I thought it best to use both forms; A Happy Holiday and a Happy Christmas.
    http://theaimn.com/you-better-watch-out/

    Christmas (without snow) is almost here. Yesterday we bought the pavlova and, as is now an Oosterman tradition, we will be roasting the Indian Raan dish. The lamb will be marinated for a couple of days in the yoghurt and lemon mixture with the usual spice of garam masala which includes cinnamon, cloves, chilies and whatever I feel like chucking in. I rarely measure quantities which gives an uncertain and exciting edge to the end dish. Sometimes it bombs but at other times it will surpass even our wildest culinary imaginings. A good Raan in the middle of a hot Australian Christmas is to be applauded and revered. It is really the true spirit of Christmas. It used to be possible to buy a large shoulder of hogget or an ageing sheep. Not anymore. It is all lamb now. A hogget is to be preferred for slow roasting.

    But I am straying.

    You know how it is! We used to walk with our dog Milo past a house which has a large window reaching to the floor. Very often it showed an old man reading and three small dogs all seated on a variety of cushions. The man and his book on a recliner chair. A charming and intimate picture. Milo would run up to the house and the man and his three small dogs, framed in this large window, would all be aroused by Milo’s short burst of furious barking. The three little dogs did likewise. It would just last a second or so and Milo would dart back to us. It was a little tradition without fail each time. The man would laugh and we would wave to him. It was a neighbourly bit of fun. Then, without warning, the dogs and this man were gone.

    The grass at the front of the house is now overgrown and the man’s car hasn’t moved. The curtain, that was never used before is now drawn across the large window. We are not sure what has happened. Milo still expects a return of the fun, but it hasn’t. He looks disappointed each time we pass the house. It has been at least a month since the last barking and waving-back exchange. I hope things are alright and it will all come back, but that’s not a given! Sometimes things don’t return to what was. No matter how one wishes.

    Another strange thing which doesn’t bode well is that the chickens on the other side of our fence have stopped cackling. Worse, the door of the pen is open. I suggested to Helvi that perhaps the owner has died. ‘It is more likely that the chickens have died’, Helvi said. I responded, ‘only three days ago they were full on after having laid eggs. The chickens were cackling like mad,’ I added. The owner of the chickens is also an old man. His name is Harley. He has a wooden sign ‘Harley Davidson’ screwed on the outside wall of his veranda. Perhaps he used to ride a Harley bike. I will ask him next time I see him.

    Harley always dresses in neat long sleeved shirts and wears jeans. A reserved man with a good sense of humour. He loves his dogs. They are a very large Bernese, and a lively small Jack Russell. Harley also does the gardening, feeds his chickens and reap the eggs. All of these would be combined each afternoon with Harley sauntering around his garden while sipping a glass of white wine and puffing a cigarette, overlooking his domain. A picture of a contented man. No doubt his wife would not have him smoking inside. That’s how it has gone now. I hardly ever see the wife, but she is there. Harley and I sometimes talk a bit and each time he would shake my hand.

    I do hope to see him soon and look forward to wish him a Merry Christmas.

    I also wish all of you, dear followers and friends, a Happy Christmas AND a Happy Holiday.

    Feel free to buy someone a Christmas (Holiday present) May I suggest that a good book never fails to satisfy 😉

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  21. Shoe, Do you want to send your stuff to me to post? I have more time then Emmjay.

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    • Hi Hung. I’m totally across that. Yes please. I have 2 for you. I will mail them a little later tonight. Catching last of daylight in yard. Thank you.

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    • Umm, wait on. I did have your email address, Hung but I don’t know know if it’s lost on an old machine. If someone has mine…algy has it, I think…please send me Hung’s address or Hung mine? Thank you. Shoe.

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  22. Ace, are you on holidays, no song list.

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