The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.
NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.
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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off. Like a sack of prawn heads in the sun. Something had to be done.
Moderation was taking forever. Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged. When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !
So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit. And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.
As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire. And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.
So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog. Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity. Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.
And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments. Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.
Cheers,
Emm.
Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
I’m working on an Episode 93 for Foodge, any one mind?
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No mate bring it on. Looking forward to it.
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Go your hardest, Sister.
I’ve got some thoughts, but no ideas.
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Wonderful. I dropped in to see if someone has something happening. Cannardly wait.
I’m kinda strung out tonight with some good news you will all enjoy. Now I feel mean, like it’s Xmas but you can’t have your present (what a bitch), I will come in tomorrow when I’ve rested or later on, after a coffee and leave it for you to read at your leisure. Believe me, I am strung out good. 🙂
Looking forward to your episode, Hung. I wrote a couple of lines of one, but they didn’t do it for me. I was wanting to write something like you published here last, without it being the same if you know what I mean. I couldn’t crack it. Beats me. It’s like a slippery eel clever. I went back and re-read your previous two. I dunno I’ll ever crack it.
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Maybe Foodge goes to the High Court to sort out the Constitution. Finds the Constitution is Unconstitutional because the Queen does not have Australian Citizenship and England is a foreign power (as redefined by same Constitution).
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Bloody excellent. Thanks.
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Gee something really wrong with my wordpress account, have to log in for every comment and can no longer press the like button.
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I periodically find the like button doesn’t work on here and leave it, I have often come back to it later and it works.
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Still not working hon.
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Working okay for me. Might depend on time of day. I knock off at 5 pm.
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Occasionally it won’t let me post anything for some hours to a day, then resolves by itself. Doesn’t respond to anything like logging back in etc.
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I’ve had a bit of an inspired week of cooking. Hungarian Goulash, Lemon Meringue Pie (more like cake as it turned out) and Seafood Chowder which I’ve expanded to include fresh salmon. Also ate brilliant Sydney Rock Oysters (well I did cut the lemon and squeeze the juice over).
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Yum. I can’t remember making a seafood chowder and I had to boil up all the left over bits of prawns and fish to make the stock. Bloody nice, the base became tomato and when all cooked and pureed you chucked prawn and fish backin the soup till cooked about a few minutes. Bloody lovely.
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The recipe for mine was an article here a few years ago. Not a tomato in it. Main thing is whatever you do that it tastes good.
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Now I think about it Viv, mine was a bisque.
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– thought so, but wasn’t going to rub it in.
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Thanks Viv. I wish I still had the cookbook as it was really tasty but when I left the deep south I had to cull, cull again and then cull some more.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-25/7-eleven-court-penalties-now-top-1-million/8740706
One on Malcolms companies. And they put shit on unions.
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Walked past Lucy yesterday, Looked like she was going to catch a train, no Men in Black that I could see.
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Exciting times, Angler. Living it Large.
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Think she was catching the mountains train to rush back to the harbourside mansion. Doubt it was the flyer but I could be wrong.
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Next time give her a shove at the right moment.
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/row-erupts-over-unbelievable-graham-richardson-alp-conference-address-20170723-gxgub3.html
I’ve read this article closely. Pretty sure it’s about Liberal Party snouts in the trough. Bloody Liberal Party! Always looking the other way when corruption and careerism flourish in its rank. God I hate the Liberal Party!
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What a dumb comment.
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I love dumb comments. I really good at them. 🙂
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Dunno but I think you’re boasting. It’s a race to the top on this one. 😉
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Best you go back under the bridge, Walter and play with all the other trolls.
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Nice to see that your ABC continues to keep us up to date with these important facts.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-22/prince-george-portrait-celebrates-fourth-birthday/8733908
I guess they follow it up with nice pictures of someone with kittens.
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I simply can’t wait for her fourth and a half birthday. I’m so excited.
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An accident of birth and our ABC needs to bow and scrape.
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Damn – missed it. But I see Powderfinger are reuniting for a gig.
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Hi all.Just a note to let you know that I am in hospital for a few days due to my on going health condition I will be back on deck and firing as soon as I can. Now to Algernon, sorry to you mate, not your fault at all, I have been slipping down for a few weeks now and should have been a bit more self aware.
I will continue to use the library pictures and will let you know when I’m back on deck.
Cheers to all
What ever my name is. 🙂
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Dear Big Sister, hope you are behaving yourself and getting better. Can sort of empathise. Have had a mini session of acopia myself. Am grateful to have Mrs M to support me, otherwise might be in the same position.
May Gordon be with youz.
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Heya Mark. I was fearful just over a week ago that being on my own was not safe my health was reduced so low. A friend took me to the local hospital on my request but we failed to get me a place. See you soon when you are on the mend. We all here will miss you until then.
Sounds like we need to build us a mighty fine hospital. x C.B.W
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Thanks, ‘shoe, I hope you are okay. Belated Happy Birthday. Hope you had a great day!
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My dear friend Hung, I hope you are back with us all soon. Perhaps I should have been aware also. Look after yourself and a short stint in hospital will work wonders, as I know from some of my nearest and dearest.
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Cheers Ace. I’m okay. I need to move on things a bit quicker I reckon. Some warning signs had been occurring for a while but I ignored them. Anyway friends for life, abso bloodly lutely
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Thinking of you. At least you are still lucid.
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Thanks all. As I am still in the “little hospital” I’m allowed to use my tablet. I have been heavily sedated due to anxiety and have convinced my GP to keep me here rather than go to the “big hospital”. Now I understand why folks like Valium. In between sleeps I will head out side for a smoke, yes, back on the bastards and will stay in touch.
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Home today, thanks to all.
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Happy birthday Shoe.
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Thank you big lots.
I’m glad you are home again if home is where you need to be. I honest could still do with a couple days time out, but I’m getting there. Don”t worry. x
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Stay strong, easy to say hard to do. Take care CBW.
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It is hard to do. You too MW.
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I don’t know how I feel any more Hon. Indifferent is about the only word that comes to mind. The only real high I get is when I can write a story for the Arms otherwise everything else is ho hum. Each day just seems an effort. Force down food and have a shower, go to bed and dream about my wife and children, get up the next day and do the same.
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Here’s looking back at y’. I’ll be back in contact soon. I undertook to tidy up the fence line ready for fencing contractors and when I went out grudgingly do some last night I noticed my winter vegies are disappearing under soursobs. In my mind at the moment believe me you’d think it was the end of civilisation as any of us know it. 🙂
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Soursops bloody every where in SA. Good luck.
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Hahaha. Now you say that, well then maybe I am not so stricken with mental fever after all . I might be normal. I might even be having normal thoughts. Maybe it is the end of civilisation, certainly as you and me know it.
Yeeeah, mate, eh, they are, they really are, they’re everywhere. You understand me.
Your humble friend
Shoe 😀
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Thank you, too, I think to add. For your wishes of good luck. This early evening I am pleased to say I made some headway.
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Here is Guardian article that included the letter about Abbott’s citizenship: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/14/scott-ludlam-resigns-from-australian-senate-after-finding-out-he-has-new-zealand-citizenship#comment-102050746
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On your bike-bus.
https://www.treehugger.com/bikes/netherlands-kids-take-bicycle-bus-school.html
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Lovely photo there. But would Australia allow it – no seatbelts and all that.
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No helmets either because they proved that wearing helmets prevented many from cycling and as a result suffered heart attacks instead.
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Yep, knew I forgot something else relevant.
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That’s a whole different look out and outlook, isn’t it when everybody around you it seems is a pedaller. All those kids are getting the good news, Gez. 🙂
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What a birth day. 😀
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Yours Shoe?
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Yes, algy. It’s been a most unusual one. It’s been an unusual week really. 🙂
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Well celebrate well and a Happy Birthday, Shoe.
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Thank you, algernon. Your well wishes mean a lot to me.
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Should have said this yesterday – Happy Birthday Shoe. xxxoooxxx
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Thank you, Viv. xxooxx
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You’d think you’d check your citizenship before nominating for government, not assume that it’s automatically been revoked once taking out citizenship.
That said I’m saddened by Scott Ludlam having to resign from the senate because he is still has citizenship of another country. A thinker he added value to government something that can’t be said of many that pollute the chambers.
I suspect there are some where their citizenship isn’t necessarily in order including a recent tory PM.
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I appreciate your thinking. It is a sad thing. I wrote a public speech with my father’s help for a comp I won when I was pretty young and my dad and I discussed the notion of citizenship concerning Billy Hughes. The speech started with a rivetting question I remember word for word… and how I was to deliver it… “Can a man born in one country become the leader of another and retain his loyalty to both?” followed by a pause of complete silence and stillness. Radical concept I realised later and from a number of viewpoints to emerge out of the mouth of a regardless fully grown 13 year old.
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Both Julia Gillard and the Turd were British born and came here when they were both quite young, Gillard 4 or 5 and the Turd when 3. Julia Gillard was a dual national until she entered Parliament. Of course the Turd is silent on the issue.There have been PMs who were born overseas, mostly before WW1. Only Hughes and Gorton and the above mentioned since. I’d suggest that Gorton was still a Kiwi as well even though he was considered to be an Australian War hero.
In that respect Scott Ludlam is in the same boat, even if New Zealand and Australia have a special relationship where both can live in one anothers countries; the Kiwis treat Australians better than the other way around. Symptomatic of the obscenity of a government we have I suppose. It wasn’t that long ago all you needed was some form of identification (not necessarily a passport) to even travel to and from.
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Oh yes the Reciprocity With Australia Act went pear shaped. I got caught in the cross breeze when I went as a family to NZ because of especially hubby to work. It is significantly more complicated than on the outside of things to get caught up in any wrangle and a great deal more complicated when it’s both unofficial and nasty as to the bone.
I’m really birthday caked out right at the moment. I’ll return to this somehow. I have intended for some time to write about the sequences of events that contravened the Reciprocity with Australia Act we knew near backwards before i would leave Australia in 1983 and to boot towing 5 kids (into a headwind?). Its story was intended to fit somehow into my neglected volume ‘The Castle’ I have been writing here and it is time to get a whole lot of it written, so maybe there.
I think I have to hit the hay. Goodnight, dear algy.
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When I became naturalised my previous nationality was automatically revoked.
I find it all a bit odd. Someone pointed out that the Queen as head of Australia isn’t Australian.
That hyhena of George Brandis is now trying to get Ludlam’s pay returned.
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Theres a vileness about Brandis, came to silk by questionable means, rorts the taxpayer for expensive bookshelves and spends most his time in the senate on his phone and reading poetry.
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He ordered it be given to him. Not qualified as was not even practising law at the time.
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A letter was put up on Guardian article from a caseworker in UK saying it was revoked in 1993. It was dated 2015. It’s not the actual document required. Everyone questioned how come it’s finally come out despite years of asking for it and it not being forthcoming etc.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-07/alan-joyce-pie-thrower-tony-overheu-pleads-guilty-in-perth-court/8688666
Sorry but some folk should just accept whats happened and move on. No need to involve the law.
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Agree but it’s too late.
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Dinner – Sydney rock oysters and blue swimmer crabs. I’ve just cooked the crabs and so dinner is ready to go (though just not time yet!).
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I think Foodge had crabs, once.
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Really Big, where
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South coast, of course.
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I thought you might say up the arse, don’t know why.
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What, the North West passage??
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Probably worsened by the call of the wild. I can’t see from here.
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Is thats somewhere near Canada
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South Coast of Canada? Now we’re pinpointing it.
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Now I think it was Foodge’s cousin, Duane, who lives in Winnipeg, or Winnie the Pooh?
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I’ll have to leave the oysters (allergic) but the blue swimmers sound good
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Anythin’ and anybody goes swimmin’ in this weather, Algernon that is a blue swimmer.
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For those who do love oysters now is the best time of the year to eat them. Also blue swimmers improve at this time as I think the males get all beefed up for mating (making themselves strong and attractive).
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Chicken liver fried with bacon and some chilli is on tonight with a 2015 Coonawarra Wynns Estate Shiraz.
Would love some rock oysters Viv, but H is not too keen on them. I am not keen on vegemite, so…
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Life is a compromise Gerard. Coonawarra, delightful. Do you and H like the liver just cooked? I do.
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No Mark, H is not so keen on liver…so I have the liver and she cooks her own piece of fillet steak with pepper. I insist on my liver and have taken a strong stance on that.
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Good man Gerard. I like an eye fillet when I can afford one, with red wine jus and steamed vegies.
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In my house if one likes a food and the other doesn’t (which is the case for only a few things) I cook separate meals. Hubby won’t eat brains – I love them.
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Friends of our had 4 kids and if anyone didn’t want what mum cooked they got a tin of tuna and a can opener.
Now Nurse Barbara how do you like to eat your brains?(Sounds deadly already)
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-04/toomelah-and-boggabilla-macintyre-warriors-get-grant/8676826
Good, eh.
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This one made me laugh.
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/jun/30/celeste-barber-i-get-miffed-with-fashionistas-thinking-they-are-better-than-others
Click on the …… – in pictures tab at the top as well.
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I saw this one Ace. Very funny, reality hurts sometimes. I see the young man from Bennelong is scoring well over there.
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As are you HOO. Pointing the dickheads for what they are.
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Politics, with our democratic forms, is a popularity contest. The vast majority of this populous has a favorite party. Another vast majority (a different but largely overlapping Venn circle)is not as passionate about it as you.Nowhere near as passionate.
So here’s a few thoughts I have on your perspective.
Do they think you’re pointing out dickheads for what they are?
Do they think you’re qualified, as a self-appointed dickhead police, to identify and point out dickheads? Do you have any moral authority in the dickhead policing sphere?
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Troll. As such one shouldn’t give a troll air
I’ll continue to repeat this. I’ll take you a bit more seriously once you’ve submitted something here for everyone to comment on. To date I’ve never seen anything and I suspect you being a troll that you never will.
I would have thought by now you would have realised that I’ve no interest in what you have to say Walter. Whilst I can’t speak for the others who regularly come here and or comment, I doubt they do either. You pop in once a fortnight and either troll either Gerard or myself. Frankly I find your behaviour tiresome. Perhaps it’s time for you to move on and find your own space.
I’m unsure if you have a mental illness (something I take seriously) or not. But could I suggest you seek medical advice. Your behaviour here is unhealthy.
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Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Next.
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Love some top quality light relief. Better than having to remind people what bastards the Libs are all the time.
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Keeps us earthed Viv.
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It’s very very good.
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Was minus 3 here this morning, huge frost. Not too bad now as sun is shining but still bloody cold outside.
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1 here but same. Heater on early.
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Minus 4 this morning and still only minus 2. I left the heating on overnight.
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We were basking in a lovely 3 degrees this morning. Sunny though now. I’m going to Oberon for work this week, a day trip all outdoor work. Looking at -1 to about 7 on the day I’m going.
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I don’t think it has been this cold since yesterday, could be wrong.
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Where is Oberon?
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About 40ks south east of Bathurst and about the same south west of Lithgow
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In other words fucking cold. 0 here lat night.
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We went to the Oberon Steam Festival earlier this year. 42 to 45 degrees, depending on the angle of your thermometer. Just got back from Armidale, -7 overnight, but stayed in Peterson House, a huge farm building with underfloor heating! Yep, it’s cold all over!
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I was cold all over me and pretty well self absorbed about it couple nights there back. Brrr.
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Headline in today’s Australian :
Greg Sheridan
Turnbull’s team has decided to live on its knees — and will very likely die there.
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Another: DAVID UREN
Scott Morrison has threatened states and territories he will cut their GST distribution if they limit gas exploration.
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Another: Greg Sheridan
Tony Abbott will today call for the government to formally investigate the possibility of acquiring nuclear submarines
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Yes, he is now the new PM.
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The government appears to be in a death spiral. The Tories are eating one another alive.
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Here’s a site that should bring hours of laughs.
http://thefairgo.com/
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I’ve been there – got link via IA. Liberal gunk – comments are to the point.
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That is putting it politely
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It’s now as good as closed. Check the article on Guardian. Everyone is having fun with it.
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Well unless you have a login. Most the comments I saw yesterday we’re exactly from the party faithful/ Yes The Guardian had a lot of fun with it.
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Found this one though, on their agony aunt page. They can’t even be original. Cut and past from somewhere else. Seems to demonstrate true Liberal values.
Dear Agony Bob,
My work colleague and I decided a few years back that we would put his career first. I agreed to support him in any way I could. It wasn’t an easy decision because I’ve always been very ambitious.
Over the last few years, he hasn’t really advanced much in his career. There was a moment there a little while back when he might’ve gotten a promotion, but his chances always looked pretty remote. He got resoundingly passed up by the selection committee.
Since then I’ve been waiting for him to realise that he just doesn’t have the skills for the job. TBH, I always thought I had more chance of being successful in my career than he did and now I want us to swap roles so that I can go for the top job. But he doesn’t seem to be getting the message.
Worse, he’s started making racist remarks at work. He only hangs out with other white people in the hope that the selection committee will like him better for it. I’m worried that he’s embarrassing us both.
I’ve been doing everything I can in the meantime to show the selection committee what a cool guy I am. I even learnt to play records on two gramophones simultaneously, which is apparently a skill that really excites the younger selection committee members.
What should I do? How can I give him the idea that he should take a step back and let me have my time in the sun?
Always a bridesmaid
Dear Always-a-bridesmaid,
Your partner has tasted power and he’s buggered if he’s going to give it up without a fight. You say the selection committee passed him over, but are you sure you would have fared any better? Perhaps it’s your whole family that’s on the nose.
While your gramophone exploits sound like crowd-pleasers, at least among the geriatric Ibiza set, it might be time to stop relying on the advice of your Aunt Sally whose condescending lies mean she’s now on the nose with nine out of every 10 people she’s met.
Speaking of which, have you listened to your company’s views on foreign workers lately? You may find your colleague’s onto something with his sycophantic tactics.
Finally, there’s a small matter of a former colleague of yours who got fired and insisted on changing the redundancy laws as a condition of his return when you begged him to come back.
Those laws are pretty tight. Good luck getting your colleague to budge an inch. Not even Aunt Sally could have dreamt up a more business unfriendly set of workplace laws.
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They have to be kidding themselves.
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The articles aren’t even well written
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No going to last. It’s a fuckup as usual. Like the NBN.
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We have the NBN. We know, because it is slower.
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“Get me Roger Stone”. A documentary available on Netflix. A must see. 91% audience rating.
“One of the many remarkable features of this extraordinary documentary is the ease with which it shines light on a species that traditionally burrows only in the dark. It shows admirable restraint in keeping its political biases in check and allows an audience to reflect on what’s wrong with commercial lobbying in a free market capitalist economy. The answer is simple. Top echelon lobbyists manipulate the apparatus of democracy to produce undemocratic outcomes. The problem is about process, not people. If you wonder how the once-great democracy that was the hallmark of American governance could possibly have descended into the global farce it has become, you need to see this film.
Directors: Dylan Bank, Daniel DiMauro, Morgan Pehme”
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Lobbyists in the US. Billioniare crony-capitalist (all Putins mates, until they piss him off and he sets his thugs on them) plutocats in Russia. Depressing isn’t it?
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And by mates I mean: they became billionaire plutocrats via… um… questionable dealings with Putin who rewarded them in the process of privatising state industries.
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Curious isn’t it. Pop in every couple of weeks and see who you can troll. If its not me it’s Gerard.
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Today’s totally warped headline (latest in continuing campaign against Triggs) – article:
JANET ALBRECHTSEN
Outgoing AHRC boss Gillian Triggs’s disdain for fellow Australians is so typical of her tribe’s retreat from tolerance.
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Actually, chicken liver with bacon all fried in some oil and garnished with a little sambal is a very nice dish too.
Did any of you watch the Putin-Oliver Stone interviews? Putin is light years ahead of Trump. Should he be asked to take over?
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Hi Gez, I didn’t see the interview however I believe that Putin would be be light years ahead of Trump as a politician.
In one of my many roles I was invited to a Greek restaurant for dinner with my new employer and ate fried chicken liver with garlic and chilli, served with yogurt and bread, beautiful, took five minutes to cook and serve.
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Putin would be so much better,Mark. But, anyone would be better than Trump. Even Santa. Chicken liver is so cheap and with the Aldi’s ‘Precious Earth’ Shiraz at $2.78 one can eat like a Lord, for less than it would cost to eat a church-mouse.
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No Putin is worse. Trump wants to subvert democracy but so far has proven too incompetent and ignorant to do it, or to employ people smart enough to do it for him. He has been thwarted by courts, states, the media, Congress and his own justice department (special investigator). Putin does subvert the democratic constitution. Like the way he avoided constitutional term limits.
Trump wants to oppress the media but still attracts vigorous negative coverage. Putin has journalists murdered.
The only place Trump matches Putin is propaganda. They’re both good at cheap, strong-man stunts that befuddle the ignorant. Take Putin’s action-man, judo, shirtless, horse riding. Or submitting himself to Stone’s pathetic softball interview.
Here’s a thought. How do we know Trump is bad? The media tells us.
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I rather prefer incompetent megalomaniac authoritarians to competent ones. I’ll take Trump thanks. Fewer murdered journalists for a start.
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Didn’t watch. Most people beat Trump in the intelligence stakes.
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Another important story brought to you by our ABC.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-15/pet-cat-missing-outback-nsw-one-year-returns-home/8619426
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No doubt in order to broaden public interest in the ABC. Guthrie sure has some great ideas!
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I noted a selection of similar stories at the side. Hard hitting journalism.
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The ABC wants to join the mob and have infoifun instead of news.
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Well she did work for Murdoch so it shouldn’t surprise
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I meant to reply before but what a shame.
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Its top stuff Hung cat stories. Now if they were talking tennis racquets
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“Bless you. Maybe good grammar is lost in space.” Noice. 🙂
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Glad you saw it.
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Did anyone receive a Queens Birthday Gong? Services to something or other?
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Quite a few in our area. More people nominating people.
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I read today someone describing the honors list as the announcement of the bottle top winners
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Alan Joyce!!!
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Services to ????????
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Frankly we could do without the two awards days. It’s a bloody wank. Top gongs going mainly to people who get paid to do their job. Lowest gong go to local community workers. Still a wank.
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Yes, mainly fuckwits, in general. My uncle and aunt both received AM,s in separate categories, but neither would know where the medals are. I’ve known others to receive them services to nursing or medicine, but, barely earned their payl let alone a gong.
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Yeah, no, some actress living overseas, a bloke employed by the ABC, an events promoter, I think the astronomer probaby deserved one.
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And goes extra well celebrating the amazing success of Corbyn in the UK. The young especially like his ‘tax the rich’ and lift the poor and downtrodden.
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Wine Alert!
South Eastern Australian Shiraz ( Lots of Berry and Purple notes) and a Sauvignon Blanc ( An ambitious little number, Passionfruit and Citrus) is being sold Aldi’s at…wait for it…$12.90 a case of six bottles. As cheap as milk and much healthier. Both perfect with fish, steak or even baked cabbage rolls.
Both are very drinable and lofly ad mouswaterink. Goe an git sum.
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Thank you for that.
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They are both very drinkable drops, Viv.
Better than many a $10- for a single bottle.
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I’m having what he’s having.
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Is someone buying?
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