The Dump

The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.

NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.

give a crap

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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off.  Like a sack of prawn heads  in the sun.  Something had to be done.

Moderation was taking forever.  Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged.   When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !

So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit.  And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.

As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire.  And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.

So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog.  Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity.  Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.

And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments.  Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.

Cheers,

Emm.

15242 thoughts on “The Dump”

  1. Nice to see Madam Asbestosa and Alexander being ignored in Eastwood Mall yesterday. Kristina and Jerome Laxale on the other hand were mobbed. Two locals against to blow ins I guess.

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  2. Bennelong is not quite gay. Farrer is a bit gay and Indi a bit more gay. A big YAY.

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    • Warringah is 75% gay – somebody tell Tony !

      I was disappointed that my childhood electorate (Banks) that was traditionally Labor but has since traded up and gone Liberal – was only 43% gay. Not sure whether Gough would approve that Werriwa was also saying “No” more than 50% of the time.

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    • Not that surprised. Closes enough to 50:50

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    • In regard to my electorate of Barker, the participation rate was close to 80%. Yes vote carried at 52.3. Tony Pasin is the Liberal encumbent. Said in 2015 ‘No’ and that he believed the great majority of his electorate would not want Yes.

      After the announcement yesterday said he would vote Yes because he would follow the National result. In a radio interview waffled about religious protection of children that parents could take child out of school etc. Naive as all get out suggested anyway he didn’t see much of a problem because eg he did not think an SSM couple ordering a cake for their wedding would select say, a Christian baker. Beats me these people have a mandate of power. Ignorance dies hard.

      My original stomping ground was disappointing, the Bob Katter stronghold of Kennedy turning in a No vote of 53.3%

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  3. Kristina Keneally is standing for Bennelong. I think that’s great news.

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    • Excellent news Viv. I love how the Labor haters are coming out with her citizenship issues. Is that dumb or what. What do you reckon the first question would have been given the current climes?

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    • I tried to share a link on this earlier, but WordPress, fickle mistress, wouldn’t let me! Note that Keneally, when asked about her US citizenship stated that she renounced it before she entered politics, and it took five minutes to find the paperwork prior to running. Simple, isn’t it??

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    • At the end of the day it might just come down to if Alexander is eligible to stand or not. I’m not sure that it would be in time. After all the whole reason Bennelong is going to a by election is through his tardiness about his nationality.

      If Alexander is not eligible then it’s possibly Peter Hendy, the failure from Eden Monaro as the Liberal candidate is the local thinking. The one person who could have knocked of Alexander was the local Mayor. Polls very well with the Chinese.

      Personally I don’t think Keneally can do it at this election though she’ll go close. Her candidacy needs a plan B where if she misses out then she needs to run at the General Election where being on the ground will help. Alexander may choose not to run given he’s said the next will be his last.

      Yet again we have a captain’s pick, but at least they are good captains picks. Unlike the sussex Street candidate last time.

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      • Keneally seems like a good pick, from an outsider’s view. First woman premiere for NSW, plus she strikes me as reasonably intelligent. Alexander behaves like a rich layabout.

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        • Yes I’d agree about Alexander. To be fair to him he does attend things. Something the rodent never did. I noticed Jerome Laxale was behind her and Bill at the announcement. He’s the Mayor who if he chose to run would have knocked Alexander off. He wants the State seat as he has young children. My guess is he was asked to run.

          She’s a good choice and a very good chance. Noticed on the ABC last night they reckon a 12% swing is required. Its 9.7% and only that high because of the loor choice of Labor candidate last time.

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  4. So John Alexander believes himself to be a dual citizen and resigns. Will the by election be held on 16 December as it should given he admits he’s in breach of s44 of the constitution or will Wafflealot Trumble faff about and call the by election in February.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-11/john-alexander-to-resign-amid-dual-citizenship-concerns/9138814#comments

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    • Take him down like Howie.

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      • Hopefully Hung but Labor has to get their act together here. Last election they parachuted in an idiot.

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        • Who was that Ace?

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          • Lyndal Howison, moved to the electorate in 2015, having been on Leichhardt Council. Described herself as a concerned mother with a school aged child and she knew all about the electorate and its problems yadda yadda. She’d lost before she’d even started, every time she said something she was shown up for not having a clue. I asked the Nurses Union foot soldier who hands out the flyers before why they served up someone as ignorant of the electorate as her to those who traditionally voted Labor she couldn’t answer. Alexander went on to pick up a small swing.

            A good local based person with community ties will push Alexander to the limit. If Alexander is ineligible it will be open slather.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          Fingers crossed. Obviously last candidate wash just a token effort (and a bad one).

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          • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

            Maxine McKew moved to Bennelong in March 2007. Before that she and Bob Hogg lived in that socialist stronghold, Mosman.

            Parachuting candidates = careerism and influence peddling.

            Or even possibly corruption in some cases.

            Why are other people allowed to criticize these maneuvers but when I do it I’m accused of lying and producing bad smells?

            Anyway let me give you another example (that I’m probably, like, totally, making up).

            Under the 1993 LG Act Councillors are not allowed to appoint or direct staff, other than the GM.

            This because the Act intends them to focus on strategic matters and to avoid corruption, political appointments and use of council resources for electioneering.

            So a Labor mayor at a typically tiny Sydney council (Council A) decided he needed a press secretary. He did actually, because every piece of correspondence that leaves the organization is reviewed by his office and signed by him. Down to flyers for changes to toddler’s story time at the library.

            Seeing any problems with the Act yet?

            So the Mayor gets involved in shortlisting applicants. That’s a problem – but at the end the staff panel makes the choice – so maybe we can look the other way.

            Then the three candidates show up. Two can’t speak English. The other can and just happens to be a member of the Labor Party.

            Anyway, guess who gets the job?

            Guess who then has an affair with the married Mayor?

            Jennifer Wilson has blogging about this kind of thing recently.

            Any other job in the country and this is unacceptable behavior. But politicians are allowed to sleep with underlings.

            I think it’s wrong and I join Wilson in condemning it. Generally and the specific examples that trouble her.

            Anyway the press secretary has lately moved on to bigger things job wise she’s now a Councillor in a neighboring Council.

            Even though she lives with the aforementioned Mayor in her own house in Council A.

            Algernon is troubled by a specific example of head office maneuver and powerplay.

            Well I call bullshit. Again.

            I’m worried about the general general festering mess that head office maneuver and powerplay.

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          • I’m not real well so I’m feeling particularly shirty about anybody turning up here who contributes sweet fuck all. Bad tempered in fact. Especially that it’s another robotic scrabble of words pasted together in what looks like a time queue that is scheduled to land here and only interrupt.

            Money earned, SM? Whatever else you are, you are way unreal.

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          • Merv there’s a stench here, I think the sewers blocked again.

            Actually I didn’t like your comment fuckwit. You call bullshit, well it just just spews out of all of your orifices.

            Lets get the facts straight shall we Walter. I live in the electorate you don’t. Maxine McKew moved to Epping before she was preselected, paid $880k for the house after selling the Mosman house for $1.2m or thereabouts. Once preselected she door knocked every house it the electorate. You one had to drive around the electorate to see that. In 2010 she had the seat won, but with three days to go Labor promises to build the Epping to Parramatta Railway. Classic pork barrelling and the mood changed with the rest being history.

            Now John Alexander, lets face it he had to be coerced into running for Bennelong, he wanted Bradfield, the electorate where he lived. He didn’t want to be here. Constantly questione where he lived in the electorate. His pamphlet handlers would lie as to where he lived, Gladesville, Ryde Meadowbank you name it I heard them all. Claimed he door knocked every house in the electorate well I knew of only one and that was in the week leading up to the election. Hwe moved here 18 month later but now lives in the Eastern suburbs.

            Lets face it, he’s in breach of s44 of the constitution and should never have been elected in the first place.

            If he runs again on 16/12 will he be eligible. If he is he’ll most likely win. If he doesn’t it looks like Peter Hendy the failure of Eden Monaro would be the candidate and a different ball game.

            I care little for the Labor candidate who was put here last time. What Labor needs is a candidate that understands the area, the Mayor fits the bill but doesn’t want to run at federal level with young kids. she doesn’t.

            Walter, why are you here, why do you come here, no contributions. All you do is spread manure.

            Surely by now you can see your comments aren’t welcome here, but thats not the point is it for the troll.

            I’d sooner have the Dog Walker back, at least when he’s OK you can have a conversation. Nobody can or wants to with you.

            Might just be best you fuck off under the bridge with all the other sick minded nihilist trolls.

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          • I agree, Algernon, all the way.

            Maxine, too, was patently sincere which is way more than SM’s consistency with drivel aspires to emulate.

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  5. Just want to let you know, as I know you are all really worried but Harvey Weinstein didn’t rape me.

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  6. Looks like John Alexander might be a pom. Depending on when he clarifies the and if he is rubbed out the a by election would ce 16, 23 or 30 December.

    Now hows this for a twist. Alexander was in two minds about running at the next general election but if he does it will be his last. The last election took aim at both feet and parachuted a goose from. Sussex street who had moved in to the electorate less than 12 months before. She was across all the issues……not!

    By forcing the voters of Bennelong to a by election on the dates above would be very dangerous indeed for the Liberals. If Alexander chose not to run then Labor would most likely win in this circumstance.

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  7. Insiders had Kelly O’Dwyer on as a guest today as well as Gerard Henderson on the couch. Bullshit from the opening of her mouth. How on earth did she ever make it to being a Minister.Couldn’t lie straight about citizenship, all Labors fault apparently.

    Gerard Henderson saw fit to rewrite history as well, apparently according to him Palestine didn’t exist until after WW1 and that it was OK to fly an Israeli flag during the reenactment, a nation that did not exist at the time or until 1948.

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    • It’s a mystery how she got to be Minister. It was a mystery to me how she got elected. The field must have been awful. Bill Shorten, mind you, misspoke or didn’t know or misheard or something the Palestinian Prime Minister’s name the other day and it’s not hard to pronounce. Called him Mr Abdullah think I remember. Groan.

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        He was close, Rami Hamdullah is his name. At least Shorten some spent time in the Palestinian territory rather than the token hour in and out of Turnbull.

        I see that Turnbull during the commemoration speech talked about a horse called Bill the Bastard that no one could ride. He just happened to be glaring at Bill Shorten at the time. There’s a trend with Turnbull here, there’s no secret that Shorten was friends with the late Richard Pratt, by innuendo, Turnbull in the parliament has suggested Bill would give Richards sexual favours.

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        • WOW. Mr Abdullah is close to Mr Hamdallah. WOW. Such a big moment for me. I, too, can find reason to be glad. I’ll be glad if Mr Kim Jong-Un gets that close with his projectile. No closer mind. WOW. Turnbull said that. The bar is getting seamy with the likes of him gettin’ in our fine establishment. Dare I say it. It’s getting very naval around here. Segway. That’ll be something else confusing. The kettle’s boiled. Night night, chaps and ms’s all.

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    • Maybe a segway

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      Lives in a different world. Talks rubbish but takes herself very seriously. All Liberals are bastards.

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      • It must be the refuge of every far right wing twat who if they had the option would join the right wing Nationalist Party. Seems to me their clearest identity. The trouble is everybody’s schmicked up with these behavioural postures that plaster a smile across their dials albeit as if its glued on.

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  8. I read an article from The Age 2006 reporting Julie Bishop preaching that aboriginal kids not be taught their culture. Very precisely reported and the whole debate, What sort of a fucked up world do we live in eh. She’s a monster. What outrageous shit she peddled to back it up. We’re in trouble.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      All Liberals are bastards. Just remember that. Don’t upset yourself by looking her up along with Asbestos.

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      • Good tip. She’s not the least bit stingy with her ignorance of aboriginal culture and aboriginal people. I can imagine asbestos. Likely wants to sell me asbestos. Yes, I think she’s some sort of disease after reading what she said.

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    • There a piece in the SMH claiming that Labor is a bit scared of Madam Asbestosa. They weren’t worried about any other Liberals though. Point was that they thought she might just save some of the furniture at the next election. The article compared Wafflealot with Billy big ears McMahon.

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      • I would be terrified were I Labour per se. We all ought to be very frightened methinks.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        It’s rubbish. Hartcher wasn’t it – he’s a Liberal sympathiser. He thought Howard would win the 2007 election.

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        • It was Catherine McGregor, they’re of a similar vein. I agree its rubbish about Asbestosa, correct about big ears though. There were many Liberals and commentators that thought that Howard would win in 2007. Most in Bennelong knew he was gone in his seat well before that. The was a Peter Martin piece that was saying it was time to take Labor seriously, effectively calling them the government in waiting. He said Labor had policy and described the government as a thought bubble on policy.

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        • Palaszczuk has gone into overdrive. I watched a recording of her announcement of initiatives to stop broad scale land clearing. Those around her looked genuinely excited. I’m really angry at her now disclosure about her partner’s role so close to the Adani Mine issue.

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        • What does everybody think about her intention to veto the billion dollars Commonwealth money to Adani?

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          • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

            The Adani mine should not go ahead at any price. Adani here is a Ponzi scheme. Adani are basically corporate criminals. The jobs are a fraction of what Adani advertises. The environmental damage they have done in India does not go well for here. The mine has the potential to do irreparable damage to the Great Artesian Basin. Palace chook is a politician playing both sides of the fence during an election campaign.

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          • Palce chook hahahaha. I’m shallow,

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          • The typo rulz.

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  9. I’ve some of Sociology of a Place almost off the Press my end and Nurse Barbara, I am pretty pretty sure, will find some real enjoyment in them as will my other loyal readers. The Art Department will find fun and mischief methinks.

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  10. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    We’ve had a long weekend away for the youngers 21st. Just happened upon the local rag Port Stephens Examiner”. Of interest to many at the Pigs would be the article on “Pet of the week”. On offer was a male cat about seven months old that was found wandering the streets of Raymond Terrace. It was taken to a refuge where it was described as a cat with no name or microchip but was described by the refuge owner as “quite a lovely cat”. It was also described as having semi long hair coat and a “lovely fluffy tail”.

    The cat would be perfectly fine in any home environment. I’m not sure if that would be the case at HOO’s, Gib or Anglers home though.

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  11. Any one that reads Duri Harbour over at the Guardian, our cousins would tell us that’s where the beach was.That joke spread.

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  12. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    Shame Windsor wont run in New England. Would have romped in. Guess death threats from certain sources aren’t worth it.

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  13. I’m unable to comment at the ABC or the guardian but what offends me is that they ALL knew women were being sexually harassed and they did nothing about it. It takes a brave person to stand tall and call people out however now it is public knowledge they all want to provide their story. Makes me sick.

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    • Better now than never nevertheless.

      And look at the example of Woody Allan regards support. Despite that I think his work is not even near the quality of other writers and producers because it is formula and repetitious, he has been treated as a demi-god with the continuing support of some many artists to make more movies, regardless allegations of paedophilia that were tried but had to be passed in regards a final judgement, not for lack of evidence, but lack of witnesses that were prepared to appear or could. He did marry his daughter. Step-daughter who cares, daughter and vulnerable dependent in the context of the meaning of his commitment to a relationship with Mia Farrow. It has amazed me that walking around scot free are innumerable men who have fathered daughter with their own daughters so if we have a viewpoint about vulnerability, it does require others to speak out

      I think Farrow was very much hindered in her case publically speaking out about Allan’s proclivities and opposing prejudice had it that her speaking out against him was sour grapes because of the marriage between her adopted daughter and Allan. So what in that case, anyway. Emotional and sexual abuse is very confusing. Others do have to speak out. I was shocked myself by Tarantino saying he knew about Weinstein. It is cultural. It is about the power differential. Sickening, indeed.

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  14. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    Be an interesting day today, the closest thing we’ve had to a constitutional crisis since 1975. And what of Michaelia Cash, what part of misleading the parliament so I must resign doesn’t she understand, who was her staffer Godwin Grech?

    If the High Court knocks out the seven, it brings the whole legitimacy of anything passed in the last 18 months into question. There’s a very good chance Kiwi Barney wont hold New England, virtually no preferences at the last election and Tamworth the only thing that got him in, albeit comfortably.

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    • Yes, the whole Cash business reeks. Even Dopey Derryn looked clever interviewing her. Who are these dispensible, unnamed staff members who resign on a whim? As for the dual,citizens, I’m still unsure as to whether they are wilfully ignorant, or just plain silly.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        Both. The born to rule mob are just made that way.

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        Yes how smart are some of these people. Have a parent born in another country and it means nothing. Seriously! One wouldn’t check before signing a stat dec. Well unless you’re someone like Malcolm Roberts who’s an idiot anyway. Mrs A is a dual national by descent but has never pursued it. I would be too, if I chose to wade through the mountains of paperwork to do so.

        These staffers “resign” then pop up again a week later in a “different” role. Cash refused to go before the committee again today, pressing issues in Perth apparently, like what? Needs the Bouffant cemented perhaps!

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      • I’m a dual national, Australian and Outer Mongolian.

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  15. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-26/desley-lodwick-discovered-child-porn-on-her-husbands-computer/9086238
    The easy solution is too take them out the back and shoot them, say, like a cat. After a while you either run out of bullets or you run out of targets.

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      What’s more worrying here Hung is that the Woodentops didn’t believe her.

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    • What sort of idiot would leave all of that disgusting shit in his web browser history? I have always assumed that these people get away with this using multiple proxies, aliased, etc. As Algy says, the wooden tops just don’t seem interested.

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    • It’s a very peculiar pursuit eh, their wrapping their heads around the maturity no more no less of… children? I have to wonder how that will affect the decision making in a workplace of someone managing staff. That seems as scary and I guess that is one of the ways they all find each other. Just think all his associates will be no doubt under surveillance of some sort. :/

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      • I was listening to someone speaking about complete lack of empathy. You and I can’t imagine sexually assaulting a child, or murdering someone because we can imagine the pain for the victim and their families. These people have no concept of being able to stand in someone else’s shoes, even though they, themselves often don’t cope with any sort of personal pain or discomfort. Quite inhuman.

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      • I put it down to a complete lack of empathy. Non humans going about their business pretending to be human. They can’t imagine the pain that those victims of child pornography, or people being tortured. They can’t imagine the disgust of their spouse, or of the rest of us. High functioning sociopaths.

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  16. vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

    Every time Sea Monster walks into this pub I have to grab the air freshener.

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      It’s like the sewers overflowed every time he posts something.

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    • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

      Seriously? What’s so bad about my last comment? Why is it so offensive?

      Let me take a step back and express it in more meta terms.

      I don’t think there is enough evidence to suggest either of the major parties are better at managing infrastructure projects than the other. You show me a Liberal overrun I’ll show you a Labor. You show me a Liberal white elephant, I’ll show you a Labor. Or better still projects where they’re both to blame. Like say the commercial and environmental disaster that is the Snowy Mountains Scheme.

      And another meta analysis if I may. The perception of on line commentors on the success or failure of an infrastructure project is largely driven by the party loyalty of the commenter.

      I could go on to discuss philosophies of risk and how large complex projects will almost inevitably run over time, over budget or fail to deliver planned benefits; but it seems people just prefer to fling abuse at me.

      Please note I have not once ever, in any post, anywhere, claimed Liberals are better at delivering infrastructure,. Or managing the economy. Or the budget. Or where have I once suggested the Liberal party is less corrupt than Labor? Where have I once considered the assertion that some Liberal politicians are wife beaters?

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      • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

        “Considered” should have read “contradicted”

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      • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

        Merv what’s that stench.Better get the plumber in.

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        • I reckon these messages SM leaves are tags. Their appearance is intermittent albeit seems to have a regular pattern, they don’t display any emotional intelligence or warmth towards anybody and are robotic like.

          The content is patched together out of stored data at a guess. The writing style reminds me of people who are competent in English to an advanced text book level but regardless are not habitually English speakers.

          I cannot understand it we just allow anybody at all to access and comment on the site but especially not anybody exhibiting these characteristics, in an empty frame and the frame links to nothing, that is chilling.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        More bullshit and lies. Your Federal Liberals are hopeless at infrastructure (and the NSW Libs seem to be just as bad) and they rarely actually build any in the first place. They are first class destroyers of infrastructure. Your views are totally delusional, can’t be respected and are unfriendly.

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    • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

      I just can’t swear enough at this shit. Listened to QT today – just a pile of lies piled upon more lies.

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    • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

      Of course it is. Lets not forget whose portfolio this was, when they changed how it was to be delivered.

      Why is it that these Liberals use their bowels as mouths.

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      • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

        They always screw up everything Labor does – Gonski, NDIS, killed off original Medicare, abolished the price on carbon etc. But the NBN is truly outrageous. Wasting many billions and lying their faces off.

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        • Sea Monster's avatar Sea Monster said:

          The problem seems to be that retailers are trying to undercut each other to capture customers as they churn to the new system. To maintain their margins they then skimp on the capacity they buy from the wholesaler. Which also leaves the wholesaler short of revenue. Hence to concern they’ll never make a profit.

          Despite all their squabbling both parties were in lock-step on the funding model. Off the government’s books and on the books of a GCE. Users ultimately forced to pay with higher prices. But it’s not working out that way.

          So my question becomes: what different in the original Labor policy that would have prevented this price competition amongst the retailers? It seems you all know a lot more about it than me.

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          • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

            You’ve written a pile of bullshit. Lockstep rubbish. Why do you bother? They can’t do anything right. Built a tower for satellite for my local village – the tower did not have 360 degree coverage and it was deliberate (they admitted to thinking it was not necessary). You can’t defend Turnbull & Co delivering such a mish mash of a system.

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        • What aged news item did you get all that simplistic churn out of, SM. Who knows where the seeming naivety about lock step. You paid by month or once in a blue moon I do wonder. You’re a silly act.

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        • My thoughts vivienne, is that governments should provide infrastructure. Particularly when private industry won’t. The NBN is transformative technology and infrastructure. Watching 4 corners last night I see that parts of NZ have internet speeds of 1 gigabyte per second. The fastest commercially available here are a 1/10 of that. I’ve had broadband cable ever since we’ve had the internet at home in 2003. I needed it for my business. The fastest that I can get is 36 megabyte p/s about the same as I’ve had for a decade. We’re not connected to the NBN and that is faster than the cheapest package available.

          The Labor plan was fibre to the home.

          The Liberals a range on 19th and 20th century technologies that will require updating in less than a decade. With this we have speeds and technology worst than many third world countries. The speeds on offer currently might suit someone with their pie cart business however they contain real businesses and services. We also now know that this joke of a system which lets face it fall at the feet of Waffles is costing twice as much as the lies he told in 2013. Then double that again to rectify the mess that he’s left.

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          • We have nephews who are employed as NBN installers. They reckon that in many sites it would be a few minutes work to draw fibre all the way into premises using the existing telephone wire as a draw wire. There are also plenty of situations where it would be prohibitively expensive to attempt to do so. Of course, there are entire country towns, such as Armidale, which have fibre to every home. Not sure why it’s OK for some, yet others are stuck with some third rate, glorified long distance wifi.

            A mate of mine was in India last year where they have fibre to the tin shed!

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          • I just looked at the cost of converting to FTTP. $660 just to quote, then up to $20000! Evidently the bandwidth at the node is so low that the fibre is run from the nearest exchange, not just from the node! Planned obsolescence.

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          • algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

            Its an opportunity lost because fucknuckles are running the show. Its the technological equivalent of the party line. It depends how many people are using to determine the speed of the connection.

            Armidale has fibre to the home as Windsor was supporting Gillard. Then again it should be cheaper to do this in country towns and cities.

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    • Not half hour past I left a comment on a local male friend posting this on FB, that says ‘Y’r kiddin’ me, brother’. Isn’t that outrageous shit. After his original stance too. What a stupid man our PM really is.

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  18. algernon1's avatar algernon1 said:

    • I guess we can just bung on a burqa, and have impunity to go anywhere!

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      • If you’re bunging on a burqa, I’m not going anywhere with YOU. I’m bunging on a tantie. I’m out. I disclosed on FB recently I’m for it being banned.

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        • To be honest, I tend to agree. Turkey banned it in 1915 ( I think), Belgium about six years ago, and have just won a challenge in the European court, France fairly recently. For all we know they could be fellers in disguise.

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        • vivienne29's avatar vivienne29 said:

          I think most aren’t at all keen on it. Darn weird really.

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        • Do you remember when motor bike helmets were forbidden in banks. I do and it was ridiculous it took so long. I fail to understand the logic of people currently saying a bank robber will cover their face anyway. Derh. We don’t need to be reacting in self defence distracted by the OTHER guy or the OTHER gal who is innocently standing waiting in line to be served, but in a motor cycle helmet. Ned Kelly style armour is really suss of course.

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        • Noticed today: “The Ice Age happened because gay dinosaurs in burqas ate all God’s coal, claims ex PM”.

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          • Have you ever noticed that the related minor to E major is C# minor. Fascinating. I started reading an article about parallel keys however lingerie came to mind.

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          • I watched Leonard Bernstein’s Musical Education vid on Youtube only yesterday so you’re asking…if me…the appropriate bruin.

            And believe me I have wondered all night how it is I did not notice before yesterday the way I discovered polyphony. Mine was a modest beginning as a baby only able to sing a simple sound. Yes, on the one exploratory key only. Ummmm , sometimes Aaaaa. Later I sophisticated that to Daaa and I believe Daaa repeated, perhaps staccato. Unsure and whether i was going for a B # Major scale then or even if perhaps it was a plain middle of the road C major, some smart arse suggested a diminished 7th of a D Major exploratory. See. I got distracted on my way to the distinguishably lovely E major with its extra sharps but that was because my nappy was full and I started crying. That gave me the idea of interposing my developing musical style on an entire household.

            Funny you should mention C# Minor. I hit on it by accident but what is one hand clapping. It is still clapping whether by accident or no.

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          • You thought yourself lingerie. For yourself?

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          • Is B# the same as F flat

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          • Wow I am glad there is no question mark attached to this statement above, therefore that is a rhetorical. Thank you, Mark.

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          • In fact, it occurred to me your enquiry, especially not being a question is way better than how long is a piece of string. Paid.

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          • Mark, I think that musicologists do refer to the keys of B# and F flat, but I think it’s all smoke and mirrors, or Lace Teddies and G strings.

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          • The sound of one hand clapping is the same sound that a tree makes when it doesn’t fall in a forest.

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          • Lace teddies and G-strings more or less go with the other.

            B# can team up with F flat and find accord.

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          • I am working on one hand clapping and its compatibility with the sound of a tree that doesn’t fall in a forest.

            I’m still puzzled by how long is a piece of string. That takes two hands.

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