The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.
NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.
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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off. Like a sack of prawn heads in the sun. Something had to be done.
Moderation was taking forever. Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged. When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !
So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit. And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.
As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire. And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.
So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog. Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity. Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.
And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments. Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.
Cheers,
Emm.
Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
We’ve had a cool change.
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The Women’s and Men’s tennis finals were terrific matches.
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I enjoyed Swinging Safari and the Paul Weller concert over the weekend.
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logging in
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Now this is one I like and entirely appropriate.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-26/guggenheim-museum-offered-gold-toilet-to-trump/9364874
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-19/ageing-and-long-haired-cats-benefit-from-grooming/9339676?section=good-news
They left out high velocity lead therapy.
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Quality stuff Hung.
Wait to you see this weeks photo then.
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Not sure if this important piece of news was missed. Fortunately our ABC was there to pick it up.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-15/truck-carrying-chickens-rolls-over/9329308
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Interestingly I saw a news feed on Nine when a passerby said that now we have to sit and watch chickens die on the side of the road. Never occurred to him those two words “move on”.
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Yes but the point is well taken questioning why we have to constantly be served up a diet of grim, sad and ultimately trivial misery. Why must we move on ? Fuck it. Fancy being over the news !
I’m less pressed to move on because I’ve given up paying attention.
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Yes, there does seem to be an excess of trivial rot. Some good new stories would be a nice change but we get various degrees of death and despair.
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More and more like the commercials unfortunately. Most the time its vehicle accidents.
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I’m cooking chicken cacciatore. Haven’t done it in ages.
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Takes me back. I remember loving Apricot chicken as a kid. Tried it a few years ago and couldn’t get over how bland it was.
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To an entirely different dish – world apart Mark. Trust you are keeping well. We had a cool change early this morning. I’m thinking of going back to bed for some sleep after a hot night. Yesterday’s weather was up and down like a yo yo.
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I understand they are entirely different Viv. I was relating more to the nostalgia.Let me explain, Caccitore takes me back as well. It’s a meal I haven’t made in 40 years. Apricot chicken was a regular meal till I left home at 17 and have had it once or twice since.
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I get it now. Only a few years since I cooked cacciatore. I was once given apricot chicken at a friend’s home – a luncheon. I managed to eat it but thought it basically unpleasant. Cruel to the apricot and to the chicken.
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🙂 🙂
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Mrs M goes retro every now and then and whips up an apricot chicken, a la Women’s Weekly style.
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Tutu used to do a stuffed leg of lamb with apricots and rice.
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Just logging in.
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Penrith was the hottest place on earth yesterday. I just read it in the SMH.
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Heaters on today at Bowral. 14C this morning.
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Checking in letting everyone know it’s quiet immediately here. You might have seen we had a fire very close (the Sherwood fire). It got stressful for a while. Some people not so lucky. No human lives lost it seems. Property, homes and stock yes. There are some sad stories. Still alert as well in case conditions change.
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Yes, I saw it in the afternoon. Not good and I know the feeling Shoe. I thought it was your way. Keep safe.
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Keep safe shoe.
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Which town are you living in in that area. I’m not sure – was it Border Town?
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I also thought it was Murray Bridge. Not exactly close to each other !
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Yes Viv I live in Bordertown. Today the temperature has really dropped, the wind has entirely and the day is as if yesterday never was. Tomorrow will be cooler again. I see a minute ago on telly Sydney is 45 degrees or so.
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Peaked at 43 dropped to 38 in the city and 45 here, could go higher here. 33 to 42 tomorrow.
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It’s a big relief. At least I got one thing right – Border Town. Temp here is about 40. I’ve just loaded up to go to the tip (which opens at 2 pm) – everything very quiet except for buzzing insects and the wasps and blowies are just glued to the windows trying to find some cool. The birds are busy in the morning and then come back to life around 5 pm. The birds just stay put in our many homely trees.
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Smart birds. Stlill 42 degrees at our place. Washing dried in a hour today
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41 in Albury which means 42 here – feels like forty bloody 5. I have one birdbath between two desert ashes – the area is like a total shady haven. Three of the magpies were just hanging out there. I just went to top up the birdbaths – the one at the front of the house nearly dry from blackbirds frequent skinny dipping and flapping.
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Inside all day reading a book and playing on computer. Just the trip to the tip.
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Watch ing cricket today went out for first two days. Magpie outside. With irs beak open when I bought thewashing in. Put out a bowl of water fot it.
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Nearly got to 30 here in Summer Bay but it’s funny even if you get 25 it’s a killer with the humidity and induces Hungs asthma. Had to use the puffer for a few days.
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Happy birthday Hung. I’m guessing your feeling a bit “senior”.
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thanhk Ace,big 60.
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All the best our dear Hung. Don’t forget to get your Senior’s card. Ultra cheap public transport – where the emphasis is more on the ultra cheap than he. Actual transport 🙂
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Happy birthday, Hung from both H and I.
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Thank you one and all.
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Me too. Happies to you.
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A belated Happy Birthday, old son. Sixty, I guess it’s better than the alternative.
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For some reason I can’t comment at the Drum, probably need to clean out my browsing history etc . Keep getting error messages anyhow this one amused me, not so much what the article was about, but the comment. onyerbike in particular.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-02/tourists-should-prove-driving-skills-to-help-cut-road-toll:-mp/9297088
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Log out. Shut down and log back in. Aunty is so yesterday.
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That worked. yesterday the drum/unleashed worked without all that
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You have comments there Algy – including to Onyabike. I think he meant that to him it was the wrong side of the road, not that he was driving on the wrong side while in Europe.
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Perhaps, it’s my first foray there for a while. it’s changed a lot of pointless arguing.
Somehow I’m defending Sydney drivers, I’m not other than it’s the hardest place in the country to drive due to the sheer volume of traffic, that even with the most used public transport.
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I last drove in Sydney 22 years ago and it scared the shit out of me. I’m too comfortable being in the country now. The traffic jam I was in also was crazy – light turned green for 2 seconds and went nowhere for 20 minutes waiting to progress about 100 yards. I go to Melbourne with a daughter and we leave car parked until time to come home. Walk, tram or taxi everywhere we want to go. Daughter No.1 said Queensland drivers were nuts.
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Mrs A came moved to Sydney 31 years ago. The population is nearly 50% larger now. We reckon there’s 3 times as many cars nowadays. I used to drive to work but now catch public transport. It’s definitely harder now driving around and weekend can be as bad as a weekday in some places worse. I’m not going to compare drivers one state to another but driving in WA is something else, no road curtesy whatsoever, We’ve often seen cars on the wrong side of the road on blind bends. On freeways they won’t let you merge. Perth also allows Road Trains on major roads. Agree with your daughter as well.
Driving is Sydney used to be enjoyable, nowadays its becoming a chore.
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So the sock puppet has given his namesake hints.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/31/is-that-a-terrorist-prince-philips-joke-about-bearded-bystander
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Who’s his namesake, algernon old bean? Do tell.
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The sock puppet is John alexander that thinks rancid jokes are OK, and sounds like Prince Philip
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Lets get the ABC to open real articles for real comments.Just tried this at the Open for comments ABC site.Got, an error has occurred, try again later. What a joke.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-01/north-korea-war-closer-than-ever/9296452
Fat boy talks to Dick Head
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Both interchangeable really. Apparently the fat boy climbs snow covered mountains in dress shoes.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/about/backstory/digital/2017-09-07/comments-abc-news-audience-engagement/8878604
Been closed for over two days now but feel free to comment.
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Sloppy isn’t it.
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I used to love the ABC Viv, trusted every word they said. Now with Guthrie in charge, on $900k a year to get consultants to tell her what to do, we get 7 ways to use your leftovers at Xmas, Man bites dog, Woman accused of killing a killer etc., etc.,
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That’s what I said here yesterday.
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The ABCs nye Countdown Concert was fabulous. Didn’t spot Algy there. There was one tall bald bloke who never moved – just stood still the entire time. Solid Rock got me all teary. Just magnificent.
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It was fantastic being there and the fireworks that close are just something different. Lots of oohs and ares around us. Just watching the harbour comings and goings, the music became almost ambient. The song that got me though was Working Class Man when the audience was anything but.
Terrific evening, Mrs A is still pinching herself.
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I’m sure it was probably one of the best nights of your life. It was thrilling watching it at home with headphones on and sound up high. Rockwiz band amazing as always. Audience seemed all over 40.
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Definitely the best New Years Eve we’ve had. Coming home in the car Mrs A still can’t believe what we just did,
Predominantly over 40 yes, but then Countdown finished 30 years ago. There were a reasonable mix of ages, the odd thing was we understood it to be a 18 years and over gig but there were kids there bored as ever.
Mrs A and I found our spot a barrier were we could change feet and lean so we didn’t come out feeling stiff and sore, so front row for the fireworks. The were all amazing, Mrs A thought Marcia Hines held her age well and moved like someone younger.
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Might add Michele Guthrie was taking photos of her daughter?? and someone else behind the barrier, fair enough. She’s short Mrs A isn’t tall but she’d tower over her. Didn’t look much taller than 4’6″, Napoleon syndrome maybe.
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So you were on the side – to the left of the stage? Did you record it? I’m currently putting it to DVD so got it for keeps.
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Right hand side looking at the bridge. could see most without having to be crowded. I was dancing and moving but not far from where I was. Dark shirt with white buttons and jeans. Mrs A was wearing a blue sleeveless top and white pants.
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Um – looking at the stage you were on the right side?
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Thing is I can’t figure out where the stage was on the grounds of the Opera House to get my bearings.
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Ok the concert was on the northern forecourt of the Opera House so the Opera House itself was to the south of the stage. The front of the stage was facing away from the bridge. So if you are facing the stage the Opera House would be on the left and the harbour on the right of the stage.
So looking at the stage O was on the right side. There were a number of security types all in black who didn’t move.. One was next to me for a long period.
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We’re just rewatching it now mostly scanning shots. Sister reckons she saw me at one stage
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Got it, ta. I figured I had the stage at the wrong place. I worked just up from the Opera House and watched the last few years of its construction. Asian fishing vessels used to dock nearby and had hundreds of shark fins strung along the wires. Those buildings all demolished and probably The First and Last too.
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I can actually make it easy for you. There was a single forecourt light; glass ball on a pole, we were almost in front of it. From the two hour mark there are three occasions where Mrs A and I are visible. They aren’t clear shots so you can’t make out the faces but we know its us. Mrs A is the easier to spot with the blue top and white pants, I’m on her left hand side. They come when they are doing pan shots of the crowd. The front ons we’re just out of sight. The three are at the end of Montaigne singing Ashes to Ashes 2:40:40 to 46. The second was at the end of Colin Hay sing Who could it be now 2:13:35 to 38 and finally at the end of Jimmy Barnes singing Good Times 2:40:53 to 58. All these times are Iview
There were other glimpses and I haven’t watched all of it.
The First and Last has gone, the 1980’s I think.
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Great, I can definitely pin that down using the time on my machine.
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Should add the forecourt light is the one nearest the stage
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Oh dear, times didn’t match and I couldn’t find you. Lot of men in black shirts!
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Easiest thing is to look for Mrs A, she wore a blue sleeveless top with white pants, I’m the darer one on the left hand side. Find her you’ll fine me. I found looking for me very difficult until I found her in the shots. It was the sweep shots at the end of each of the songs mentioned.
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I’ll have another go.
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No luck. I’ve rewound and paused heaps. Maybe I need a huge tv screen. I’ve tried really hard.
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You gave it a go, bit like looking for a needle in a haystack. You enjoyed the show and knowing of someone there made it all the more interesting
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Happy New Year to all our friends and families. Best wishes to Big M – who is working this night, saving the lives of mums and new bus. Many safe deliveries !
Emmjay and FM.
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And to you Emm.
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Tomorrow night, but I’ll take the acclaim. Mrs M worked until ten pm. Cheers!!
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Seeing youse is a purse carrying nancy boy it all makes cents.
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Well Mrs A and I are off to the Opera House tonight for NYE. We’ve won tickets for Countdown Live concert. If your watching I’ll give you a wave, I’ll be the tallish bloke with receding dark hair and silver mutton chops also be wearing a dark shirt.
After Midnight Oil Mrs A and I said we wouldn’t go to an outdoor standing concert again and six weeks later we do. Probably have to stand for about 4 – 5 hours. Still think we can put up with it.
An early Happy New Year everyone.
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Excellent. Have fun – how are you going to get there and home?
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We’re staying at a hotel at an extortionate rate, Valet parking, breakfast and a noon checkout as well. will walk down to the Opera House and back.
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Brilliant. Way to go.
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About time to head off to posh hotel near the Opera House?
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Here already enjoying a nice cheese and fruit platter with Champagne.
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I’m also wearing glasses
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No wonder I didn’t recognise you.
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Tarzan and the Elephants perhaps
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Such of a lot of crap and sanctimonious advice type article on ABC website. How to keep safe from snakes, make resolutions about improving others’ lives, what to do about racist uncles. For gawd’s sake, stop thinking this shit up. Then there’s all the security, bollards and semi-trailer, B doubles parked in the centre of the cities to keep us safe. To clean or not to clean the BBQ. Capped off by “Excited partygoers descend on popular vantage points in central Sydney with plenty of water and food supplies to spend the last 24-hours of 2017 sitting in a tent to catch a glimpse of the world-famous fireworks display.”
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But there was the one where Lord Pottymouth was a little indiscreet about Hillary Clinton. The rest though is just holiday period drivel.
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Yes, of course. I just felt like having a rant. TV much the same. Local news is just going over the year that was. Ours interviewed Albury, Wodonga and Wangaratta Mayors. The 80 year old Wang Mayor was a disgrace.
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Fair enough we can all have a rant from time to time. I was happy today had a comment published in The New York Times. Will be happy later too.. TV seems a waste of time ATM very little new content.
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Can anyone comment here?
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Yes. Just follow the rules.
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Feel free. Might wait to be moderated for the fisrt comment but fine after that.
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More or less, but we get few people who voted for Tony Abbott or No for same sex marriage
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The Suppository of All Wisdom has been used to great effect.
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No-one’s started to dig the trenches for the new toilets yet either. That might’ve seemed backward.
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Merv, glass canoe of Trotters Ale for young Catherine. Yeah, put it on me tab……what? OK, here’s me card, paywave, if you know how!!
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Ewe know perfickly well ewe have to bring a piece of chalk so Merv can chalk it up?
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“A new Royal Life Saving Report has found that 473 people drowned in Australian waterways whilst participating in boating and watercraft activity over the past 10 years (2005/06 – 2014/15).
This report shows males accounted for 92% of all boating and watercraft related drowning deaths. This is even higher than the annual percentage of all male drowning deaths (83%) for 2015/16, highlighting the importance of boating and watercraft safety for males in particular. With the summer holiday period fast approaching, it is vital that this safety message reaches men around the country.”
Further: “Almost one fifth of boating and watercraft drowning deaths (19%) occurred in people over the age of 65 years, with 90 deaths recorded, and followed by 88 deaths in the 35 – 44 years age group (18%). Drowning occurred whilst fishing (28%) and when moving (27%), and most often in small powered boats under 5 meters or paddle craft.”
Further: :”This study found that only 8% of people who drowned were reported to have worn a lifejacket. Of those not wearing a lifejacket, 14% were had been carrying them onboard the vessel at the time of the incident. The importance of wearing a lifejacket at all times cannot be underestimated.”
Published 2016.
https://www.royallifesaving.com.au/about/news-and-events/news-items/boating-and-watercraft-drowning-deaths-10-year-analysis-report
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Yep, and a few too many of those deaths (drownings) happen along the Murray River. Drunks all too often.
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That’s 47.3 people per year. How do .3 people drown annually?
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A lot of people need to be standing in it before they’ll work that out. I wondered. 🙂
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Law unto himself.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/29/malcolm-turnbull-fined-250-dollars-lifejacket-sydney-harbour
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No respect for the law like he did with the High Court and how he and Abbott have used the AFP for political reasons.
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Probably drives without a seat belt too.
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Remember he said something like he could pull over on the side of the road and do email etc, it was enough, linking it to who needs the NBN to download MOVIES? I felt immediate concern for truckies, where did he park he was blatantly stupid.
Why would he anyway move the boat without wearing a life vest? He’s the bloody PM more’s the pity. A cousin of mine, new found to me then, hit his head in a simple boating accident cactus, dead, finito.
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Gee they’re sensitive over at The Guardian, merely criticise Katharine Murphy or put up a reasonable argument and bang it’s gone.
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Not many articles open for comment.
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Some have been open for days
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I saw that and noticed you got pinged. I think few open for comment because lot of staff taking a break. Should get back to normal in new year. Murph’s piece was crap.
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One I thought would get pinged but not the other one. Crap was putting it politely, she was just making stuff up. You have to tire of the Liberal good Labor bad nonsense that goes on there. How the Bennelong by election could be seen as a Labor loss is beyond me, given it was held by the Liberals by 10%!!
Does she think that if she continues to do the brown nose routine with Waffles and his government which won’t win the next election that somehow it will change becauses somehow she’s deluded as being in the know.
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First article I had read in a while. Total fairy tale. Then they have the audacity to ask you to subscribe.
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Looks like the holiday relief moderator is actually enforcing the rules. Don’t worry “reasonable argument” will resume in a couple of weeks.
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Go fuck yourself Walter.
Merv the stench is getting stronger here, a great turdbot has just walked through the door
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How on earth does SM keep showing up.
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Why do they bother.
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Wishing everyone a lovely Christmas and many hopes for a better New Year.
We’re having crays and salads and other nice stuff and pavlova. I’ll be busy tomorrow preparing my chicken liver pate, decorating and stacking fridge with bubbly and beer. Also doing my new nibble sensation – quick biltong. Granddaughter loves it.
Kisses and hugs to all. Love from Viv xxxx0000xxxx0000
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And same to you vivienne.
Not sure how ours is going many dietary issues in the family and one child has gone vegan. It’s the away trip this year The Christmas Cake is vegan. Anyhow butchers tomorrow to pick up the ham, Turkey for us and a porchetta for later on.
New Years Eve will be different though, I’ll let you know later.
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All the best to you and yours Ace.
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And to you my good friend. Have an enjoyable day.
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Cheers to you Viv and your family. I’m having Christmas by myself this year. A nice rare rib eye steak for lunch with a bottle of Wolf Blass Grey label Shiraz.
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PS: Whats biltong?
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Dried beef or other meat with black pepper, coriander, salt and vinegar. Similar to jerky.
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Algy is right but mine is a quick version and not as dried and has more exotic ingredients. I’ll put the recipe up in the New Year.
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Our local butcher sells it.
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That’s lovely.
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Sounds wicked.
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Hey Mark – spot on. It is wicked.
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Indeed
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That’s a nice little spread.
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Merry Christmas, dear Piglety people. Have a lovely scrumptious feed. May all your moments be free of concern. I am going to my neighbour’s for nosh and fun with that family. Let us all look forward whatever it is. May be the best of the cyberuniverse be ours, piglets.
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Merry Christmas to all of my Porcine friends. We are both working, so Christmas will be a small affair. Not all bad news, though, it is likely to be our last one worked because we hope to retire next year.
All the best for the New Year!!
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Comes a time Big. I’m finding my forced retirement generally okay. Can’t do shiftwork any more.
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Big, I reckon I’ve got another 3.5 years to go but could retire tomorrow if I had the money.
Well we could always sell the Casa del Algernon and move, but with 1.5 still at home and the younger going back to uni next year, probably means another 3 or so years here.
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Algernon, I reckon I could work another ten years, if I had to, but the quality of people who get promoted beyond their level of competence, the Peter Principle and nepotism at work is what’s driving both of us away. The idea of remaining in the yoke with the whip in the hands of sociopaths sends chills down my spine. One count turned up at work the day after the Christmas party to make sure that everyone had turned up, even though he wasn’t rostered on. I may officially retire then pick up some other work, as long as it’s not delivering pamphlets, I’ll be happy!!
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Big, so could I, and working part time from the end of next year is a possibility for me cutting back to maybe 3 days a week. The Peter principle is alive and well where I work too. Also I find myself writing reports that nobody reads, Putting time and effort into a project only for the powers to change tack and get in multiple consultants at enormous expense to do the same thing i just did. Guess I’ve been working with men too long to be pissed around by boys.
I’ve thought of consulting again but that means setting up another business something I’m not that keen on at my age.
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They’re getting very sensitive over at The Guardian moderating all over the place, have a look at this
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That would require Madam Asbestosa to make a decision. She prefers swanning around too and being a clothes horse.
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Context Algernon, context!
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After this Grumblebum McWombat made a comment as well which I commented on, both wiped.
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I saw that.
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Given up going there. Sick of being dumped for no real reason.
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As I remember it, excessive moderating was the history of what happened at the ABC. I would love to be engaged in face-to-face forums again. I’m saturated with on-screen debate.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2017-12-22/global-fish-stocks-under-threat-from-illegal-fishing/9276394
What is it going to take?
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More fish farming. Better governments. And stuff like that.
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