The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.
NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.
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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off. Like a sack of prawn heads in the sun. Something had to be done.
Moderation was taking forever. Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged. When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !
So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit. And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.
As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire. And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.
So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog. Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity. Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.
And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments. Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.
Cheers,
Emm.
Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
Helvi; just a note, in case of snipping. I am using you to have a dig at some of the snipers there. Excuse Boots, as Alfie Bass used to say.
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I’m not so sure about that Helvi.
Tony Abbott went to Queen’s College Oxford, where he achieved a Master of Arts. This was of course after graduating with a BEc AND an LLB from Sydney University.
Now, two things: The Yanks love Oxford (the background for Morse, the educated detective), and they admire individuality; he’s written three books.
I don’t know much about Julia Gillard except her public speaking. And quite honestly, there is no comparison. Although her speech is measured it’s without much intonation and quite frankly: waffle!
An additional factor that may seduce the Yanks, is his Rhodes Scholarship, possibly more fascinating than Julia’s Melbourne Uni attendance. Despite the fact that she obtained two respectable degrees; in Law and Arts.
The Rhodes Scholarship is awarded for..(pasted in)
* Literary and scholastic attainments;
* Energy to use one’s talents to the full, as exemplified by fondness for and success in sports;
* Truth, courage, devotion to duty, sympathy for and protection of the weak, kindliness, unselfishness and fellowship;
* Moral force of character and instincts to lead, and to take an interest in one’s fellow beings.
All in all, an interesting package.
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snipping: as in censorship by the moderators.
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Vectis Lad, on which blog did you post the above? The traffic is so slow there, I forget where I have written something.
Last Friday I posted something in the morning, about eight, and the appeared after six at night.
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At last after some finger pointing, the impersonations at Unleashed have ceased.
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yes, Voice.
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That’s not Voice, she would have out a comma after last!
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I mean put. Ha ha.
One has to be careful without specs.
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Funnily enough HM, that’s what I thought when I checked it after reading Helvi’s comment. I’ve never really believed your “I can’t do grammar” thing.
Wrong, Helvi. If you’ve got something else to say, like you’re insinuating that I impersonate other people on UL, how about being straight about it. If not, I apologise in advance for being over sensitive.
The finger pointing at JL was just a bit of unpleasant pot-stirring and never credible.
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I knew what was meant there, but ignored it.
It’s too silly for words.
In fact it’s as silly as two tons of thermite in a lift.
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Bob Ellis wrote to me. I replied. ….It appeared for 10 minutes then disappeared, together with his question!
Maybe I was too witty for them.
Bloody protection racket I reckon….He’s over 21..
…Maybe I shouldn’t have called him Blob. Bloody perverts.
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But “blob” would be reasonably accurate, surely.
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Well, I’ve got away with Blob Bellies a couple of times…BUT not tonight.
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Actually I wrote an absolute pearler about Gillard in Te US as a ventriloquist’s dummy. I surpassed myself. Unfortunately I didn’t save it–so it’s in the can with her ventriloquist Tim… Himself a effing Marionette.!!
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Hang on his question’s appeared now–but nort my reply..Poltergeist??
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“Marionette dangles dead
Insensitivity is fed
By the TV wizard’s wand…
Whilst in the spell you’re conned;
Cat is walking in the sun.”
(Donovan)
Just came to my mind…
🙂
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Bet this doesn’t get up……on Blob Bellies Blog
Bertrand Russell said, “envy was one of the most potent causes of unhappiness. It is a universal and most unfortunate aspect of human nature, because not only is the envious person rendered unhappy by his envy, but also wishes to inflict misfortune on others.”
“”Jealousy”” is a secondary emotion and typically refers to the negative thoughts and feelings of insecurity, fear, and anxiety over an anticipated loss of something that the person values, particularly in reference to a human connection. Jealousy often consists of a combination of presenting emotions such as anger, sadness, and disgust. It is not to be confused with envy.
So it’s true what they say about the tall-poppy syndrome here (Australia).
I’d only read about it before; it’s good to witness it live… Just like rats in a lab.
Or am I wrong?…Ha ha
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Viv, I have known ‘Julian London’ much longer than you, on Unleashed that is, so now I immediately recognise him whatever strange new diguises he uses. I’m sure here at Pigs Arms he is just showing his English ‘whimsy’ (is that a noun?), I don’t think is anything more than ‘playfullness’ 🙂
I find our Jules harmless.
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So our Julien is Aldi, Mulga and Hosni et al. Multiple personalities but no whimsy present I am afraid. Hopefully he’ll be careful with where his barbs land in future.
More importantly (as Ato would say) to matters of dinner – I have just cooked some very fine Blue Swimmers.
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Not too much, I hope.
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You have been warned, Vectis… 🙂
Viv, I have one poster being seriously nasty to me on UL, I have complained to her, but it hasn’t stopped, now I just try to avoid her when I notice one of her disguises… it gets a bit tiresome as one can’t be on alert all the time…
Better take up some Buddhist meditation 🙂
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Pardon my French, sorry for being naughty as I realise what I am about to say is not exactly tasty………. but……….. Unleashed is giving me the shits !! Can it get any bloody slower with updating posts? Nothing happening for half of Friday, all weekend and now nearly part of Monday. What kind of nincumpoop bastard have they got running the show? A brainless git I think. And, bloody hell, yet again, half my posts don’t get up. One of them was just a short sentence of praise!
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Time for Zen, Viv.
Having no expectation, one can also have no disappointment for free 🙂
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Far more important is the matter of tonight’s dinner.
What shall it be, I wonder…
Oh, and last night our squirt turned up around midnight, looking for her birth certificate! A most excellent surprise. Her hugs are just bliss!
Saumon avec le riz, a la George peut-être?
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My tandoori soaked lamb over charcoals accompanied by good stuff. Have just got the coals on the go.
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Family all coming tonight as they are hitting Rutherglen for 3 days of wine and food splendour.
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Toooooo late!
Saumon avec le riz, a la George, devront être!
Got the salmon. Looks and smells and feels great!
Tandoori gives me the runs, alas, Vivie.
But I do like cooking with the coals! Chops and snags come out dancing over the coals!
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Avec du, Surely?
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Que?
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Con arroz.
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You mean Can Carne, don’t you? The fat chap, sucking at the bong in the corner there?
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I posted a recipe for Chili con carne on UL, about two…maybe three years ago.
It’s a beauty; and a old regular, Yen I think, wrote back a few weeks later and said it was good.
That was back in the days when the moderators were actual people!!
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No-one got the joke in my opening line. See Helvi’s Kisses and French Dressing.
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Sorry, Viv. I hates it when that happens to moi. I’ll go back and get it now.
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It’s just something that one has to live with. I do!
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I’ll vouch for that.
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If you wrote something mildly amusing, we might laugh with you instead of at you. You Capitalist Cretin.
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That is very offensive. F..k off.
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Vivienne, I think you’ll find that comment from Mulga, was addressed to me!
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Thanks for that but such insults should be accurately aimed.
I do not have a clue as to who you, Aldi, are and nor do I have a clue as to who is behind Mulga Gaddafi. Hosni has me stumped too.
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If I may just interject here Vivienne, let me just say that Emmjay is the psuedal lord.
I’m not saying it’s him of course, but he has an awful reputation for aliasology.
There are also some political dynamics at play here: East v West; good & evil; righteous v reason.
I’ll say no more. I cannot give away more secrets of ….drum roll…..amplifier on echo…..**The Pigs’ hidden rooooom!
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Viv, Vectis Lad is only partly correct here. It IS true that I am a notorious changer of pseuds – but only over at Unleashed (whence I hardly ever go these days – not worth the effort or time). Chez Pig’s I am always Emmjay. Scouts honour. Vectis Lad, methinks you protesteth too much 🙂
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Just doing a bit of professional (obsfucation) sledging!
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Practice, they say, makes perfect.
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Well it is now sorta sorted ! Perhaps all will now take more care in how his/her/their ‘insults’ are directed so that they hit the intended target.
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I find it strange that some of the contributors on the Drum/Unleashed are allowed hide behind pseudos, The Dragonista, Not Bob Ellis and some others.
I think I read one complaint on this issue, but I’m surprised that most people seem to find this acceptable.
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I asked them if I could write under a pseudonym once so as to comment on an area that might be prejudicial to me as a consultant, H – and they said “no”. Odd – since the Health part of the ABC site allowed me to write under a pseudonym to protect the innocent. Left hand and right hand – total strangers in ABC policy – made up on the fly…
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Personally, I think that all posts should be in the authors given names.
Yours Truly
Chauncey Beauregarde.
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What, ALL of them?
What if they’re all polysyllabically Greek? Worse still, what if they’re all pollysyllabically Dutch?
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It never ceases to amaze me that over at Unleashed they STILL allow Allan Moran to flog his climate change denialist rubbish. Same old same old same.
I was going to shoot off a size 9 bucketload, spelling out T R O G L O D Y T E …. but the comments function isn’t – as far as I can tell -functioning.
No fucking commitment to doing it right and keeping it right over at the ABC.
Boring editorial, pathetic articles, shit technology.
None of these dropkicks would get a guernsey at the Pig’s Arms. We have standards.
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Well, what do you expect from public servants?
They get long weekends and renovate on Monday.
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STORAGE:
As usual ant, you’re off on a tangent.
Alan Gribben, to whom I referred , in my post below, is a notable professor–and although I don’t know his political persuasion, I imagine that he is more to the left then centre.
His efforts at changing Twain’s work, were ostensibly to make it available to a wider readership, especially since they (the books) were banned from public & school libraries. So in that sense he was aiming to expand the readership.
However, although his heart is in the right place, I suspect him of a tinge of envy, of the author.
In that I may be wrong, but I am in here to express my thoughts: not parrot the thoughts of conspiracy magazines! Your modus operandi!
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Jayell, your letter is there, I was bored this morning so I went to the Mark Twain blog, and there it was …I even left a small thank you post to Stagger and the Country Boy for their entertaining bantering…I also read Ant’s letter, you two ought to kiss and make up 🙂
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Helvi: your last post on UL has paralysed the whole blog!
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…and what’s worse, i been sharing the soapbox with Hadron all day…
Oh well, it’s was worse when i had to share it with our Hungie…. yo, yo, yo
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Thanks for the dance.
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Sorry H, I thought it was great 😦 Gotta say though first time in ages one of posts got up on the Timmy Dunlop whinge about journos
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…you must have made Tim happy, he’s now got 12 posts, a whole dozen 🙂
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Here’s a comment of mine that didn’t get posted on the ‘Confidence in Our Navy is Sinking Without a Trace’ blog over at the Drum:
“Oh, sorry! I though you were talking about the culture of bullying within the Navy, but I see now you’re talking about ships…”
Touchy people, sailors…
😉
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Storage.
Is that your ace card UU?
Malcolm stumbled while Labor bumbled.
I am glad that Malcolm, had that little lesson in politics: he won’t make the same trusting mistake again.
Yes you know where I stand; my previous post about the present government is irrefutable–I note!
You must feel as if you are handcuffed to a donkey?
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You should have mentioned those BLUE BUBBLES Bob.
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That’s strange. This post was there for about 30 mins. Why would they put it up then take it off?
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Little do they know the cuunning plan: To Just keep pasting it back hehehe!
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Now It’s back??
I think that the engine needs a bit of Castrol.
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Vectis Lad, What I want you to do is worry about the last 200 metres, the rest who cares!
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Too obtuse 4 me.
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On Mungo’s article: Bebe Daniels wrote:
I felt absorbed by the British, when I started work there.
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I was just heading back to check the progress on MTR’s latest rant. Can’t find the article at all, at all. I think it’s been pulled!
He name doesn’t show up as ‘Contributors to Unleashed” under the Ts either.
Perhaps she’s had enough of us?
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Tomo, try here:
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/44142.html
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Listed under “R”
Bill is the mail… or would you rather have send Lovelace over?
🙂
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…or would you rather I send Lovelace over…
Damned fingers! Sometimes they confuse one keyboard for another. Playing Chopin on this is silly!
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I just checked, Mel is still there, nothing much happening, maybe a couple of new posts.
What happened to Marieke Hardy’s article about Mad Hatters, i can’t find it anymore…where is it hiding? or hidden?
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We have had enough of her!
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Seems I completely missed it! What was it all about?
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Which one, Viv? Mel,s article is among the the older February stories.
Marieke’s one was about Latham, and how she was supporting him at first but found out that he was a mad hatter… then it led to to the other mad hatter, Abbott. I read it carelessly, but didn’t find it offensive…that’s Donnelly’s territory, I can’t stand the man.
Is ‘NOT BOB ELLIS ‘ Deveny? Sounds like her…
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Oh, I thought it was something entirely new. Yes, Donnelly is just truly awful. Not Bob Ellis could be Deveny – I’d bet a dollar on it anyway.
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POSTED NOW so you can delete it Mr Pig!
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I don’t think that Bob, or any other essayist, can actually police the posts. I don’t know that for certain, but it’s the impression that I grt.
I believe that the moderators play ‘tin-gods’ sometimes–and their decisions are based on personal views, or which side of the bed they fell out of.
Voice seems to think that it is just a badly monitored software, but that does not explain multiple lapses, when certain synapses (figuratively )are contradictory.
I started ans exchange with Mar mary (quite contrary). And she quite reasonably asked me this:
Mary2 :
17 Feb 2011 10:50:18am
Did you actually read my post?
Or are you one of those people who need to intentionally misunderstand oppositional arguments so you can shoot down straw men?
She pronounced in a voice like a bassoon (figuratively), that she was a Lesbian. (which was obviously relevant.) And I preceded with a reasonable response.
I ignored her proclivity preference and posted 3 reasonable replies, which didn’t appear. The last one complaining that I was getting fatigued by all the typing and therefore was making the comment shorter and shorter.
Nothing got up.
Now: I’m angry; Mary’s left with the ace–and I lok as if I couldn’t reply. Which I couldn’t , because of he Censorship!
Grrrrrrrrrhh..:(
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I citised Brull for his writing–this:
Actually, she didn’t. A semi-conscious woman cannot give consent to being penetrated when she was unconscious.
It seemed to me that he was morphing his tenses.
I did go on to talk abouit rape,but again it was censored by a precious moderator.
Surely they should offer to proof read Brull’s articles; and every other dyslexian!
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I think Voice is partly right, Jules. I’m sure that their monitoring software filters out stuff off a specified list – so “f$%kwit” is more likely to get up to the real thing. Remember the time that my comment under the pseud of “Yorick Hunt” got up ? Clearly not such a clever “banned” list. And maybe they also have pseudo restriction where once they spot one of your pseuds, the hive them off into a manually-handled file – which I gather is so often overfull that they never get around to looking and therefor just chuck out old or random posts. I think the moderators have also to push certain political barrows and so if you pass the auto and manual filters, you may still get pinged.
The upshot of a multi-layered moderation process is of course the symptoms you / we all see – fractured conversations amongst commenters, delay, loss of momentum and meaning. I dunno whether authors can also ping posts – I doubt it, but megastars (even failing megastars) probably can Email or call them and ask for stuff to be deleted. Never offered to me ….. Gez ?
Unleashed is fucked, Jules – but not in the same way as your lesbian pen pal 🙂
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I never fill in the email section. It gets up any way.
I don’t know waht that means, but I discovered it about two years ago.
You just pick an alias; write the massage and whoosh…send.
So to police it they would have to have your identification number, not just your email address.
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Voice can correct me on this if I’m wrong, but they might check your IP address.
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Whoops….the writer needs a massage.
Probably around midday.
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“Voice can correct me on this if I’m wrong, but they might check your IP address”
Bloody Nazis!!
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Julian, I’m not going to reply to your comment on Unleashed because my more light-hearted comment never got published, although I submitted it twice, and two of my comments elsewhere have been edited. Neither was offensive, although they all might have required an ounce of brain-power to see relevance.
I’d rather have nothing at all published than a distorted version.
I’ve had it with their combination of rampant sensationalism, publishing blatant nonsense of the most tedious type (where the writer means it seriously), general incompetence in how they mange the comments, and interfering and totally unwarranted arrogance. Stuff them.
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I replied to you, because I wanted to disguise our our clandestine bonhomie (for want of a diluted better word).
But secretly I wanted to write , Oh Voix, Voix, lama sabachthani?
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Pshaw. Bet what you REALLY wanted to write was ‘Why can’t someone with a bit of proper fight in them take the bait?’
I’d plump for ‘underlying amiability’. Best wishes, Catherine.
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How about imaginary, apocryphal romance?
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Here’s where I’d usually go for a ‘would you believe’ line, but since you’re not familiar with Get Smart it would be, like, totally wasted.
I think we could happily settle for my earlier suggestion. But hold that thought for when Madeleine happens by. In which case, with a little work on the adjectives, it could come in handy.
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The worst effect of the haphazard censorship is when a moderator decides not to publish a reply in a discussion, when one is disputing facts or amplifying a misunderstood phrase.
It leaves the last posters comment dangling–and gives the impression that one couldn’t return serve.
In the Pox Amercana article I have written 5 posts to get one reply.
And getting wearier as the time wends.
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On Mel’s blog The Other Craig tells me that i don’t like storms in teacups and that i am into quieting them before they bear fruit… WOW!
My reply about not making fuss about every little thing was not published. Mel is spending her time looking for little bits of dust blowing in the wind and making them into storms. (I did not say that on UL)
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I’ve had the same problem on Ellis’s piece. I think it is Bob who is preventing some posts from getting up. Seems to be finished now though. Very irritating as I gave a very good answer to the ‘talentlessness’ of Abbott and co and it didn’t get posted. Twice I asked him why – nothing happened.
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I was fuming on Donnelly’s silly blog last night, but have not seen any of mine yet, maybe never. They allow him to write all this rubbish, but I’m not suppose tell him off.
Ellis too is getting sillier by the article, look what writes today….
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Vivie, Bob’s getting tired and crabby. Stupid, even. Losing it, as they say. Years and years of trying to find something new to write about and to write it in a unique fashion has taken its toll on his tempe-rat-ment. The fish in his lake has all but been fished out.
Asking to be invited by the ALP is a sure sign that his reasoning powers are diminishing.
Asking for the ALP to fall in love with Abbott and ditch Gillard is another sign of the same ailment.
Highly arrogant and with a most unappealing, whining, Christopher Pyne type of “please love me” disposition.
Gone’s the old Ellis!
A great loss, I might add.
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‘Mou, you are so on the money with this comment. His lake is all but fished out…. gone is the old Bob …. next stop : residential care
I guess the only thing to do is not take anything he is saying to heart. Sometimes I just skim Bob’s work these days. If I want an intelligent and sympathetic humane discourse, I prefer Don Watson.
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H, Donnelly is about as intelligent as a haemorrhoid.
I’ve stopped reading his garbage probably after the first paragraph I’ve ever read of his. Sometimes I read the responses to get a chuckle from the insults thrown at him.
Amazing how vacuous vermin like him hold such esteemed positions. “Director of Education Standards Institute and author of Australia’s Education Revolution.”
Shiiiiiit!
Zeus protect our kids from his “revolution.”
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‘Mou, I have a particular curiosity about these so called “institutes”, lobby groups and other right wing wankers. I commented (successfully I might add) on the “Poor old Navy” blog written by a Lowy Institute “associate”. My solution to the Navy’s woes (busted ships etc) was “amphibious shopping malls” – truly a Lowy Institute solution 🙂
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Hahaha!
I’ve just begun reading some of the comments on Ellis’ blog!
What a concurrence of thought!
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Yes, he has gone troppo. Turned into a silly old fart. What gives me the shits is when he demands an answer and gets it – the answer is not necessarily published. Yes, left there hanging like a piece of snot.
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Vivie!
Such uncouth language!
Zeus is thunderstuck!
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Emmjay on “Confidence in our Navy is sinking” Feb 16th ….
I think the Lowy Institute and their favourite military analyst son should be congratulated for such a prescient article.
Solution to the Navy’s woes ? More amphibious shopping malls. Easy.
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I fell asleep during the 1st paragraph of this article.
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I have to confess that I didn’t actually read it, Jules – pathological pursuit of a joke at any price.
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It got up Emm, a real gem.
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Thanks, Algy. It used to be that a sledge like this had no chance of getting up because it has only one aim – taking the piss. Shows how standards have fallen, though.
I have to confess a morbid curiosity in think tanks and lobby groups. They feed into my general paranoia and conspiracy theory perspectives.
How about we form the Pig’s Institute for Strategic Studies (do your own acronym) and advise politicians like we’re for real. That way THEY’D be taking the PISS 🙂
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I don’t suppose that this will get up, on the gay marraige blog.
What really happened at the Hospital, when David Furnish and Elton saw their newborn.
They had their sperm mixed together and had a surrogate mother artificially inseminated with it.
When the baby was born Elton and David were waiting at the hospital.
They were ushered into a ward where a dozen babies were lying in their cots, eleven of whom were crying and screaming.
Over in the corner, one baby was smiling serenely.
A nurse came over to both of them and indicated that the happy child was theirs.
“Isn’t it wonderful?” Elton said to David.
“All these unhappy babies ….. and yet our baby is so happy.
This just proves the superiority of gay love!”
The nurse said, “Oh sure, he’s happy now, but just watch what happens when I pull the thermometer out of his arse!”
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Correct mate. It didn’t get up.
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I’m at a loss folks, I’ve complained on several occasions to the moderator it would seem to little or no avail. My last one tonight, I pointed out which parts of the terms and conditions this imposter is contravining. There must be a way of escalating this should the mods do nothing. I seem to be spending half my time alerting the moderator. Seems to make it pointless to register your name if they ignore you.
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You could always call yourself Algernon the original., or Algernon The Great..
..Or Algernon 1st.
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Or give the moderator a spiked omly Hads junior?
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DocMercury :
15 Feb 2011 3:25:24pm
Snogging was invented by virus for the same reason we invented sailing ships and aircraft.
You gotta luv im.
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Hadron, I giggled over that one…I also had to laugh at his answer to my question about how he knows how old Liz Hurley is….
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To Bazzant: on Coleman Ridge’s viewpoint.
I have to agree with you entirely,
Immediately the boats arrive, the sailors should be transported to a UN run refugee camp, to take the place of some refugees who have been waiting their turn.
500 arrive; we’ll swap them forthwith. They’ll have a safe haven from their dreadful persecution; we can do away with the camps-and genuine refugees can come straight in, as long as it is in line with our quota.
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Unbloodybelievable!
I’ve sent a post in to Ellis’ piece and it ended up in Kellie Tranter’s article!
I mean…. Oh, I could just scream!
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You should!
And then you could get Lehan to paint it: and we’d all be rich.
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She might make me look like Abbott after a tough question!
Back on Bob’s poop, I’ve posted something like, Abbott’s look reminded me of Julie Bishop’s on Chaser’s “stare war.”
Have you seen that one?
Total crack of the jaw!
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It was a very scary staring from Julie…
Why did Abbott not say anything…he could have said: No More Taxes…
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Actually I have just come home-and haven’t been through the posts yet.
I am making mischief on the Gay site about marriage-so been preoccupied.
Saga’s here today, with termite treatment and hiving the dogs off to son-in-law.
I’ll catch uop with stuff in about two hours when I return from picking the little spaniels up . (another preposition Ato sorry. Did you get my ‘Attabbo’–a play on Abbott? I just know how you luurrv him!
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Laddie, I don’t understand whatsa mean. Where, what, when, who, how much?
H, yeah, he could have said, “You’re a suckhole, Riley!”
How good would that be? Every one would vote for him! AND they’d be watching Ch 7 religiously. Win-win all round!
They just can’t think on their tootsies, these pollies!
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Totally understandable, ato, Kellie is so much prettier….
We drove past our previous rented premises today, and Gez was rather excited about spotting one of our prettier, previous neighbours…I noticed the dog, that’s all…
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Can you believe it someone calling themselves “Algernon” wrote the on John Mikklesons blog of monday last
Algernon :
09 Feb 2011 9:27:38am
Not according to…wait for it…wait for it…NBN Co.
The company’s own business plan reckons the average cost of capital would be 10%-11% over the life of the project.
For the period 2011-2013, the estimated cost of capital is 25%.
So let’s see, with an expected IRR of 7%, the NPV would be…negative!
In other words, the NBN is a financial dog.
Reply Alert moderator
Algernon :
09 Feb 2011 6:38:03pm
I didn’t say this. I disagree with these comments
One alerts the moderator and also replies and they don’t pull it down. Maybe they’re leaving this up to make a point before its removed.
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Alge, I was luckier. Some time ago someone wrote under my name. It was done pretty well, short and snappy, in my style, she(I’m sure it was a female) almost fooled me. I alerted the mods, the post was deleted immediately, just lucky I suppose.
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Helvi there are still at it. I’ve alerted the moderator and posted this as well “Perhaps you could be more original with your name instead of a well established one. I’ve been using this since this site began. Your views are at a tangent to mine. You appear to contravine this sites specific rules. I am suprised that the moderator has allowed this.”
Moderator appears to be asleep.
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You can register your alias.
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This person also got a soapbox entry!
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It hought I had and have now. This clown is popping up all over. I’ve alerted the moderator again, we’ll see what happens.
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Well they seem to be removing some of this imposters comments now but leaving some up. There is one on Chris Uhlmann’ piece this afternoon though whcih required an alert. This clown talks neofascist rubbish.
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And a few more somewhere else!
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You mean you still aven’t worked it out yet? Someone very capricious I would say, he disappeared from Pigs Arms and Unleashed for months then re-emerged.Ladies and Gentlemen I give you JL, who goes by many many names. But he is the culprit here.
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gwyneth, I usually know who is who, no matter under what pseudo they write…jayell for sure uses many disguises, I view him pretty harmless 🙂 I can’t remember what was said but I was annoyed that somebody used MY real name.
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Helvi, I can give you my absolute and irrevocable, word of honour that I have never, EVER , EVER, used any of my dear colleagues- in arms psueds. EEVER.
Unequivocally even.
Those who perpetrate mischief will receive just rewards.
Although, only able to understand a three word mantra, obviously hinders their comprehension!!
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Whoever it was it only happened once, and the mods acted immediately…I was talking more about posters that use multiple pseudos, they are the ones I can usually spot…
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I use multiples. It amuses me. I would put a list of them here, for a laugh if I thought that it would raise a laugh.
But Hey, does it matter; it’s not serious. What’s serious is getting the kettle on for a cup of orange-pekoe.
It’s 4:59 here!! Tea time on the coast.
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I know that JL would never impersonate another especially a pig.
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Absolute taboo in my view Algy.
One doesn’t spend time on friendships, and then abuse them.
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Unleashed is copying Pigs Arms, there’s some poetry up there today 🙂
Next they’ll have a Friday Song Selection…
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You shouldn’t be looking Helvi.
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I only go there to read more of your writings, Vectis Lad 🙂
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