
Crisis and Opportunity by Katherine Xiao Image on sale in http://www.club21global.com/ Singapore Gallery 21
I had the pleasure to look at this – and some other wonderful calligraphy as FM and I stopped over in Singapore. Apart from the aesthetic qualities of Katherine Xiao’s work, I was struck by its challenging title. Crisis and opportunity. Interesting.
I’ve written in recent times that I am heartily sick of the way almost all mainstream media bombards us with one major disaster after another. Just before our subscription to the Sydney Morning Herald ran out, I wrote to the editor of the Good Weekend pointing out that they were not presenting us with a very good weekend. In one edition alone there were three cancer stories – these are supposed to show us the meaning of courage against awful odds – particularly the one in the “Two of Us” section where a woman’s diagnosis was followed quickly by her husband falling into his own battle with the big C. And there was another C story reported plus a person who had brain damage rewiring their working hemisphere to cover the bit that had gone AWOL. Even the usually humorous Danny Katz was having a shot at someone with deep pockets and short arms dudding his mates during his shout at the pub. FFS !
Have you noticed that there is so little or no joy in any of this ? Crisis. Crisis. Crisis.
The end result – or the impact on me is to start a chain reaction of negative or nihilist thinking. What’s the point of going on ? Crisis. Crisis. Crisis leads to depression depression depression and an internal voice shouting “Why fuckin’ bother ?”
This is how I’ve been feeling about the Pig’s Arms lately. It’s a question put to me directly by one of our clearest and deepest thinkers.
Next month, the Pig’s Arms will be three years old. This makes it an oldy in Internet years, somewhat like the community members. This last year has seen significant changes, not the least of them being one of our founders and a tireless worker on the blog going feral and abusing the other patrons and generally acting like a dickhead.
I know that most if not all of us forgive our friends and make allowances for their difficult times and I have been deeply impressed by the lengths some of us have gone to help others and show inclusiveness and caring.
Throughout the last few months I’ve seen other regulars taking a particular club to each other and saying things that may not have been intended to wound – but which apparently have felt that way to the recipient(s). I can’t for the life of me work out why this is so – and yet I did it myself when I was I think, pushed too far. After a couple of gentle warnings I told the person to fuck off and never come back. And that’s what has happened and we’re all the poorer.
I’ve felt the pressure of work when it’s been on and the pressure of no work when it’s been off – intruding on my time and sapping my energy for getting behind the bar and keeping the life of the pub a life I think is worth living.
We’ve also seen some of our regular contributors finding their lives in more fertile grounds elsewhere – often for the same reasons as I’ve expressed above. While I don’t mind patrons using the pub as a conversation space for gardening and television commentary, and Twitter-like announcements about the next excitement-packed dog walk, for example, these are not things I personally find compelling. But they’re not something to go all abusive over either.
We opened the pub so that we could get pieces published without all the palaver that the ABC laid over Unleashed and their random, conversation-killing moderation. The Pig’s Arms was and to some extent still is such a place – for exploring creative web writing and generally having a bit of fun. And having commentary that reflects a willingness to lay a few more courses of bricks over the (sometimes slim) foundations of the posts.
But these days it feels to me like our commenters are happier knocking out each other’s bricks and we don’t seem to be building anything substantial.
From time to time I have felt like either abandoning the pub and leaving the community to its own devices, but the pub has my name all over the place and it’s a child I prefer to not leave on the street to suffer the vicissitudes of a random and capricious world. Neither am I easily able to abandon friends or the massive body of work we’ve produced.
So what is my job in what looks to me like a time of crisis for the Pig’s Arms ? In the real world patrons of a watering hole come and go and come back. Sometimes they get chucked out for behaving badly. Sometimes it’s for their own god. Other times its for everyone’s good. Sometimes pubs go into hibernation until a new publican is prepared to give the old thing a new lease of life.
Is my concern supposed to be for the people or the pub – or both ?
Since Waz asked the question I’ve been trying to ignore the elephant in the room – this, our porcine crisis.
But now the idea put so elegantly on paper by Katherine Xiao – that with crisis comes opportunity – suggests to me that by asking questions rather than by pretending that everything is hunky dory and just keeping on keeping on, we could drive a crisis into identifying a new opportunity that is a fresh and vibrant as the pub has been in previous years. Or we could torch the place and let something new rise phoenix-like from the ashes.
In the past some of us have referred to me as “Boss”. While it’s flattering on one level, some of us will remember that my first published story for Unleashed was “All bosses are bastards”. Am I proving myself right or what ?
I don’t feel a strong fatherly relationship with the pub any more than I stay wedded to any other of my hair-brained ideas that have been flushed out in the name of a joke. It’s your pub too.
IS there an opportunity – or just a crisis ? Is there some good to hand ?
What are you going to do to breathe some life into the Pig’s – or to build the bonfire ?
Or will it be not with a bang, but a whimper ?
Hey, I had a thought.
Imagine a group that has to make a difficult choice. The choice that they make has some moral ambiguity, and they feel some discomfort toward the choice. But it is a choice they feel is the right one to make, so they will stick to that choice, to that decision, absolutely.
It is not the choice but the determination to stick to their decision that affects their behaviour. That determination is reflected in a change in subsequent discussions with each other. They become more certain; more strident; more adversarial, and show a marked loss in humility and humour.
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Hey. Anyone else notice how difficult it is to scroll down to the bottom of pages these days? For the longest time I kept thinking I must be moving the cursor. But no, the window is now designed to jump out of alignment and prevent you from doing so. Programmers, stop messing with us.
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drive me up the wall, these engineers. Clever? Astounding.
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Used to do it with bits of string. Tie it around some money, leave it on the ground. Jerk it a little when you bent down to pick it up. Then they’d all run off laughing. Of course, that was well before my time, and those were peniless ragamuffins. Not well-paid programmers, fishing for online shoppers. Go buy those shoes yourselves. You can afford them.
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Used to be that when you thought of engineers you thought of steel bridges.
Nobody thinks of bridges anymore.
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Pah.
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Ha ha! NO, Atomou, you CANNOT add anything. You’ve left, right?
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Some say: the more I get to know a dog the more I resent humanity. It’s a bit pessimistic because there will always be people that warm the soul, . They might just get a bit rarer or perhaps with advancing years we become more critical. On the other hand, some say, the passing of years makes some people turn into beacons of mildness and tolerance. The very sage… Some, in their old age go stark raving mad and become very angry.
A knew a good old friend, who after a stroke, had some vague recognition of me but told me never to come to mow his lawn again. I had never mowed his lawn. I wasn’t even close to ever having been a lawn lover or mow anything. In his better days we used to joke about lawns and petunias etc. He lost all that wisdom and wit and because of his stroke became all befuddled. That’s how it is and will be for many of us. I could well go all gaga, become a very keen admirer of lawns and leaf blowers jumping into gardens and embrace the old Victa…and owner
Who knows.?
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Mind feed the beautiful strokes of the artist’s brush in the calligraphic illustration attached here by Katherine Xiao. Ink I imagine.
I recently have been reading about oil painting (btw Lehan) making my time good as I will soon be in the company of artists and artisans in North Queensland who I just know will be happy to help me with some first steps if I can make them.
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Good luck with your venture into oils, ‘Shoe.
I was really captured by Katherine Xiao’s work. Unfortunately, this one was priced at over A$5k and as much as this work would provoke thought long into the future, its beauty sadly eclipses my current wallet.
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My feeling is that that everything has been said already so I’d just like to acknowledge Emmjay’s thoughts and sentiments and add my good will to that of people who have expressed such and salute you all.
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I’ll see how you go with your good-will…it would be good if each and everyone were able to behave, or at least try for Emmjay’s sake….OK, you too.
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Thank you Voice. I think Paris is influencing me already. The Parisians have been very kind and tolerant of my atrocious French and I feel a lot calmer and I appreciate the caring responses of our patrons.
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Look, I think I have to really backtrack here. I think I completely misread the piece by Emm. I thought he was saying that he wasn’t happy with the way things were going, was a little depressed by a certain amount of on-site dialogue, and didn’t know what to do. And, of course, the cancer references completely threw me.
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Lord, I was really off the mark here!
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Anyway, I’ve moved on. Cyndi Lauper, Time after Time.
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No. Nothing really compares to True Colors. Forget that one.
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My dear Lehan, I don’t think you misread the piece at all. I am not a person who is comfortable with much conflict and the last round of hostilities came at a time I was pretty strung out with my own issues and my resilience was down. Send me another of your great paintings with a story. They always make my day. Also you owe me a T shirt and a painting 🙂
Here’s a theme: FM has accepted my proposal of marriage. This brings me at once the joy you might expect and also some apprehension about how the Emmlets will accept the news when it sinks in. Fingers crossed.
Hoping your new job and circumstances are developing beautifully.
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If you DON’T tell them at the Bistro that you require a Proposal Cake, I will never forgive you. Damn, that’s a memorable occasion.
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FM! Don’t let him shirk on the Proposal Cake.
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Presumably, you’ve told said Emmlets?… Otherwise I guess we call all draw straws, for the job?
Yes, of course you said,”sink in”.
Well, heartiest congrats, MJ. A good choice of venue for the proposal and acceptance.
Wishing you all the happiness that I can muster and sending waves of voodoo affection ( an Apple app!).
♥ ♥ ♥ ♀ ♀ ♂ ♂.
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V.L. It was the song lyrics I thought of and I cannot listen to the video at the moment. Instead the English lyric…
Every time I look down on, this timeless town
Whether blue or gray be her skies
Whether loud be her cheers or whether soft be her tears
More and more do I realize that
I love Paris in the spring time
I love Paris in the fall
I love Paris in the summer when it sizzles
I love Paris in the winter when it drizzles
I love Paris every moment
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I am for my part aware of a sense of identity struggle result of being given the freedom emmjay has allowed, ‘by ‘has allowed’ I mean in his name, as an ultimate arbiter surely of whether the pub remains or is demolished and rebuilt, remodelled or scrapped and say everybody goes on a vacation of some sort. Supposing if that happened, some piglets or all will return and remake the story if not as a blog as a cartoon strip, an anthology, art gallery, perhaps several bowls of pub pretzels donated to Sydney University pathology lab. Who knows what he, we, she or they could do if we were not doing this and taking into account piglets are not all yet aware of this discussion.
In reference to that freedom, I am constantly reminding myself this is a relatively new medium in the sense of communicating into a screen with a light shining into my eyes as I write and it is ‘flat’. I have recalled a number of times John Cleese’s video about the importance of body language and facial expression, the shine of recognition and defeat, passion, kindness, insult that passes through the eyes of people in talk or debate between themselves, that maximise opportunities for a quick bust up or makes for flexibility.
My point of view is that these are early days for a blog that is complex because a number of people are engaged in contributing to it and regard that sincerely. On another hand, I feel strongly that any one of us who is erratic in their presentation online and becomes seriously abusive knows what the problem is and perhaps will read a checklist hanging on a hook behind the bar that they surrender their keys to Merv and let him park their car around the back off the main road while the piglet sleeps off whatever … circumstances, the exhaustion of depression perhaps,, it might even include one too many of the fine range of alcoholic spirits and any adjuncts freely available out of sight where Merv has no capacity given him by Emmjay to manage that situation should it arise.
Setting aside the current level of unhappiness and certainly diversion to a fault at times into our own stories in comment, thank you Gez for touching on our tendencies to self immersion and perhaps forgetting the main function being the display of the work we have done.. and I am for readers participating here as well.
I have given thought to consideration that an ageing population will include potentially individuals who cannot differentiate between what an arguement is let alone what arguement is destructive and slinging at whether someone has contributed or not and how much is very much in shape of a sad one-eyed monster.
How to get new blood? Who joining the bar wants to struggle with the in-jokes around what avatar is whose and I have participated against my grain that the situation is non-inclusive. It hurts that I once attempted to describe my detestation of it and survived dismissive joking… so we all or each, as people who are fond of each do, have felt hurt. Nobody should have to be at the bar most of a working day reading messages to know who is who.
The passions and bickering are different in character, sourced in eccentricities that include those out of sight in a way not possible in face to face relationships. I am for the bar continueing in its present format for a period of time to see if it can recover and an airing of views and get togethers in a shape or form might be of some assistance. Sustained abuse and vulgarity however such as happened recently cannot help and we as a flat page that is equivalent of staring into an electric light bulb as we write is not a suitable environment in which to make decisions about mental health care, particularly when anyone hacks into our space and writes for us. That is more than cause for offence for a good reason. Virtual reality can be put to good use but that is not any good for anybody’s mental health who is the target or victim. I am not poorer for that not happening. I would equally feel richer if I always knew who I am addressing or is addressing me because I am formal enough to believe some disciplines engender dignity and freedom. That’s all of me for now. I am resource poor and using systems that are faulty. Thank you for the time you spend reading what I have written. It has taken me some time.
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Bless you ‘Shoe.
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With respect Lehan, most of the patrons here have been touched by the black dog either directly or with someone close to them. Not one of us is an expert on mental health. Some have learnt how to deal with certain aspects but in no way able to offer the holistic support that some here require. Voice and I had to talk him through one of those episodes, the reality is that what we offered was basically First Aid, and he was then able to get the treatment he needed.
I’m sure you understand that mental health problems are not a matter of take two of these and you’ll be better in the morning it’s a daily thing and at times a slow process. Someone close to me took two years to recover.
I for one miss Hung here and want him to return when he returns to health, however I suspect he is better off away from here until such time as his health returns, which it will with the right support he will.
I don’t think any of us a scared of the mental health issue nor are any of us distancing themselves from him. But it upsets us greatly to watch the abuse, which given his state of mind at that time, I suspect he wasn’t quite in his control. Then the next day thinking what a dick I am is profoundly apologising. It would appear to me that one was feeding the other.
As for Waz, I understand he is battling other issues at the moment that are taking nearly all his energy and will return once those battles are over.
As for you Lehan we’re here for you, we can support you where we can, but not one of us is an expert.
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Is that Lehan, or Hung pretending?
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I see what you mean, however, I suspect it’s Lehan.
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wink
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Thanks, Algernon. Actually, when I need mental health care I go to an expert. And when I need a community of some kind I go to one of those. In that way I can become an expert in understanding what it is I need.
I guess the question for me is: what kind of community IS this? And I’ve been getting the impression that this truly is a community of experts. One of the things it is expert in is “things that we are not expert in and therefore will have nothing to do with”. And then there is “things that we think YOU are not expert in, and will tell you so”.
It is true that we as a group didn’t have to deal with the problem of exclusion before. It seems that the general perception is that we should return to that sunnier time. But that time is gone. We have fallen from the sun.
I have to laugh a little, the number of times I’ve been slapped down over this issue of what “we” should do about Hung. Oh, I shouldn’t have an opinion about this? So expel me too, please.
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And Emm. Expel him too. Twas he who brought it up again.
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But of course it’s also not good of me to force my opinion upon you. We are all people with opinions, and none of us really have the authority to speak on behalf of the others. On the subject of politics, for example, nobody says: look, I know how things are, and you don’t. Do they? I would really like, though, not to be told that I don’t know what I am talking about because I am not an expert. The mental health profession is not an “expert” in mental health. They are specialists in the MEDICAL TREATMENT of mental health. It’s a very different thing. I don’t rely on them to tell me how to treat others, and I don’t rely on them to tell me how to behave. I also don’t particularly want to talk about mental health at all. I, like most people, would like to not think of it at all. And most of the time I don’t. But it’s not a taboo here is it? So much so that we cannot acknowledge it in a post? ELEPHANT! ELEPHANT!
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“. I also don’t particularly want to talk about mental health at all.”
Be my guest. Please stop!
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But I AM a Kook, VL. True Colors. And THIS is my aslyum. 🙂
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I’m not sure where you going here, Lehan.
Even at Hung’s darkest moments I have never been critical of him and probably wouldn’t be. He has never directed anything abusive at me.
Since I start posting comments and blogging about five years ago, the one person I have the greatest affinity with is Hung, he is the only person I have actually spoken to, though I’ve had email contact with others. He and I would regularly bounce of one another at unleashed and it was he that invited me to become part of this community. A friendship that has become stronger over that time. I don’t see him as an “issue”; he’s a friend whose doing it pretty tough at the moment.
I don’t pretend to be an expert on anything other than what I’m employed to do. Any depression techniques I’ve learnt have been through dealing with those close to me and their psychologists. Tools I’ve been taught to help support. I post articles here because others encourage me to. If I get one reply or a hundred matters little to me, that others enjoy them does.
I agree with much of Emms sentiments here; I want to see the PA grow. It hurt him deeply taking the actions he did. I hate the bickering and frankly it if were to continue, then I’m off there are more important things in life.
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I agree, Algernon, I’ve had a few conversations with Hung, and he maintained that the only way to stop him from saying stupid, hurtful things at the PA was to withdraw his privileges. He has the highest regard for everyone here, and I’m sure is following these conversations. He still gets plenty of support from his ex wife and seems to be enjoying work, although, I think that working permanent nights can be pathological in it’s own right, having just worked six weeks of nights out of seven weeks!!
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I have to admit that I was attracted to the Pigs Arms because of it’s lay back atmosphere. Merv’s always here, polishing pint glasses with that dirty rag. Granny can occasionally be heard in the attic or the basement getting another brew on. The Bowling Ladies have a meeting in the Ladies’ Lounge once a week, and those bloody noisy Angles blow in out of nowhere, skull a couple of Pink Drinks, then are gone in a roar of throbbing, geometrically enhanced V-twins.
Some things are constant, like the layer of dust and dead flies on that glass trophy case in the corner of the Gentleman’s Bar, others change all of the time, such as the titles in the aging juke box (carefully tended by Warrigal, and his apprentice, Algernon).
There’s a great crowd here, as well. I mean, there are the academics like, Atomou and Asty, with their Greek tragedies, then, of course the place seems to be run by a bloke who is so self deprecating as to call himself the Wardrobe Manager, but is as clever as a brain pie! Gerard, and the Mysterious ‘H’, can write a story about walking to the park, or catching a train sound like an epic journey. Plus, if you hang around long enough, someone will slip you a recipe or a gardening tip.
Anyhoo, one day I blew in, sat me arse at the bar, inhaled a Pink Drink, and instantly wanted to be part of the crowd, replete with T-shirt, wrist band, and a key to the dunny. Emmjay took me aside and told me that I have to write something, in order to earn all of that. I thought to meself, bugger me, I’ve never witten nothin’ in me ‘ole life. Thankfully Emmjay arxed me to look after Foodge for a weekend. We (Mrs M and me) were worried about looking after a foster kid, but, took it on. It was a god-send. Straight away Foodge told me the secret. “Uncle Emmjay doesn’t write those stories, I do, and…they’re all true.” The rest is history.
As for our friend Hung. had a similar problem with the eldest son. It would have been easier to have a family of pigs living in the house. His behaviour, attitude to us, and work, was appalling, and was, not only messy, but filthy. He was thrown out, and went to live with a mate. That was a couple of years back. We are back to being best mates, and he is very intolerant of mess, poor hygiene, and tardiness. I am hoping that the same will happen with young Hung, although I’m sure he’s not as messy and un-hygienic as my eldest son!
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Not looking good, is it.
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Warrigal?
Hung?
You got anything to get off your chests?
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…if this world makes you crazy
and you’ve taken all you can bear…
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Cyndi Lauper. True Colors.
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I have to say it, sorry.
They were afraid you would kill yourself, Hung.
They were so terribly afraid of that.
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Your song: Eva Casiddy.
………………
If this old world starts letting you down. Get on the fucken roof!
Why do we have to keep dredging up illness?
Everything is all right, ‘up on the roof’.
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You’ll learn, Hung. People will go to extraordinary lengths to distance themselves from that kind of fear. Sometimes you need to protect them a little.
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But hey. Sorry for speaking for you, Hung. Actually, of course, I’m speaking for myself. I came to the Pub for help, and I got it. But I was always careful not to ask for too much. Alienated far too many people in my time, asking for help.
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Anyway, Emm. I’m in, if you still are.
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Still waiting for the past piece I sent you to get up. I find it difficult to write when I’m waiting for that.
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In the meantime I do read most of the posts. Healthy banter sometimes sounds like such crap to me.
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* 滴(dī)水(shǔi)之(zhī)恩(ēn)當(dāng)以(yǐ)湧(yǒng)泉(quán)相(xiāng)報(bào) (滴水之恩,当以涌泉相报)
o Literally: A drop of water shall be returned with a burst of spring.
o Meaning: Even if it was just a little help from others, you should return the favor with all you can when others are in need.
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I do know, though, that when I most needed it, nobody came to me and scolded me and pulled me up and shouted at me to GET MYSELF TOGETHER. And that was what I most needed, at a time that I just wanted to lay down and die. So I’ll say it to you, Emm. Get the hell up.
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If you see a photo of someone in Rome, the most likely result of assuming they arrived there on the same road you did is to make a spectacular prat of yourself.
Particularly if it later turns out the picture was actually taken somewhere else.
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a spectacular prat?
Oh, did I say something wrong?
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You think it might have been the bit about fat-arsed, or something?
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I was just being metagorical.
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The Drum won’t publish me. Where the hell ELSE am I going to go? Get the hell UP!
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You want Hung to suspect that you might have made the wrong decision? You’re going about it the RIGHT way.
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See? says Hung (really Lehan). They really WERE a bunch of fat-arse self-obsessed losers. I KNEW it.
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waaa haaa haaa! Eva Cassidy. Who the hell is THAT? Cyndi Lauper. She kicks arse.
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Very difficult song to sing, True Colors. Tricky notes. Why not try for yourself?
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I’m sure you’ll appreciate the timing.
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And then maybe take another look. Without friends like Rosie O’Donnell, it’s doubtful that such a song would have reached pop culture status. Amazing what a little support can do.
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Oh, and she’s a little fat. Goddam antidepressants, do it every time.
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Actually: on the dog thing: Warrigal gave me the idea.
I can’t be bothered to look for it here, but he wrote about waiting for messages in blogs. I think that it was in one of his music blogs.
I was promoting payTV and he wrote how he prefers live preformances ect, ect.
Anyway – on of the things he mentioned, was that one didn’t know if one was going to get a reply or not. Consequently one tuned in waiting (interminably, sometimes) in vain for discussion, or replies, that never eventuated.
I had meant to write about this earlier, but never got around to it.
After some thought, I got to thinking about the CB radios and the over and out calls: alos on walkie talkies ect, and wondered how to emulate this. Principally, because I then started to notice that I would respond to a question immediately, only to find that Helvi, or T2, would reply 48 hours later. I thought, well, what was the point. And in fact often got some sort of comment that was unrelated to the discussion.
I am writing this quickly, so excuse any bad grammar; spelling ect.
Anyway…………………I hit on the idea of notifying a fellow PA blogger that I was leaving the discussion, by announcing that I was going to walk the dogs – thereby removing the obligation, for them to reply quickly – as I do.
Obviously it has worked to an extent. I am able t attest to that. And in the evenig a simple and cordial good night (in whatever language comes to mind) , has worked for Voice and I. We know when one of us has signed out. The discussion is thereby, politely terminated.
The rest of you don’t do that. And it is sometimes frustrating. Now you have the potted history!!!
That is the sole reason for saying, “Off to walk the Dogs”! I’m guessing that Voix, is the only one that has picked it up…..Never mind…..I’m not angry about it 🙂
If’n youse Ozzies prefer, I will say, “Going off the air”!
Peace.
I was looking for a peace sign when I sytumbled on the site that you blocked Voix 🙂
GOING OFF THE AIR. BACK @ 2 HOURS.
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I twigged to that VL – it does help to say one is ‘signing off’ or goodnight. But I often turn up and no one is saying anything or I see in the morning that it was al happening in the evening. I had advised long ago that I was rarely on the computer in the evening. Usually close shop at 5pm or 6 pm at the latest. So engaging in real time chat is a total hit and miss affair. I just take it as it comes or doesn’t come.
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I have to confess to being one of those people who is often well behind the conversation, usually because I’m at work, gone for 14 hours, usually, so miss the banter. I will add a late comment if I think it’s worth adding, but realise that the conversation is over, and piglets are likely to wonder what the heck I’m on about!
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I find myself in the same boat, evenings if I’m lucky or the occasional Friday and weekend. Comment about something even though the moment has passed.
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I now have some words to use to refer to my own experience attempting to participate in say the dot. Real time chat (Vivienne). I soon found that for me it felt impossible. I have returned to exclusively accepting a comment might get a reply, if so in half an hour, day, week maybe, especially I cannot maintain my responsibilities and participate in real time chat. Real time chat online is possibly more psychologically daunting for me because I have a speech disability and do not ordinarily seek sustained conversation (don’t know). I’m a tenant in an entire house creating a reputation as well as I can in a new district, my internet runs according to its supply nature, the line it is connected to still drapes temporarily across the grape vines into the street, I’ve not had internet in situ for all of last year and, last year, on weekends balanced my laptop on the top of a library returns bin in an alcove open to the weather to pick up wireless, there reading erratic arguement and brilliant commenting, most unfortunately persistent identity game playing although I indicated I didn’t know who I was talking to. I battled high levels of normal social anxiety thus induced and persisted, Lehan’s brilliant reflections on her life in Japan, speculations kept me coming back, trying to learn classical literature from ato, reading asty and humorous articles by our funny writers. I was standing thus in winter rugged up, in light mists on early evenings and download limited, recognising the curious mixture of a lack of responsivness and clear commitment everybody believed each displayed to the principle of the pub. I decided on what subjects to not take on (identity because that was declared ‘amusing’), warmed by displays of other kindness. I think the use of this ‘flat’ page cannot extend to imagination we are each potentially able to maintain all the threads of our real time existence and straddle the life of the pub across it as if it is a real pub. I am for people playing it by ear more so we can survive this terrible love and welcome other people in. Each has a life out of sight.
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PS I maintain a kind relationship with pet animals and accept others keep pets, am vigilant to be considerate to the needs of animal owners and assumed you were walking the dog, VL. My view is as follows: indirect communication is unfortunately, too frequently, either nothing but harsh unkindness or devolves at best to self satisfaction if the person/s addressed don’t have the code. Seeking to communicate directly needs practise because we are part of a social warp in times indirect communication is nourished by arguement and thrives online, keeps an habituated level of discontent at an all time high, is the preserve particularly of literate people with words enough to waste, throw to the winds. The only phrase of explanation referring to dogs I now understand as straight forward is ‘I have to see a man about a dog’.
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Some say: the more I get to know a dog the more I resent humanity. It’s a bit pessimistic because there will always be people that warm the soul, . They might just get a bit rarer or perhaps with advancing years we become more critical. On the other hand, some say, the passing of years makes some people turn into beacons of mildness and tolerance. The very sage… Some, in their old age go stark raving mad and become very angry.
A knew a good old friend, who after a stroke, had some vague recognition of me but told me never to come to mow his lawn again. I had never mowed his lawn. I wasn’t even close to ever having been a lawn lover or mow anything. In his better days we used to joke about lawns and petunias etc. He lost all that wisdom and wit and because of his stroke became all befuddled. That’s how it is and will be for many of us. I could well go all gaga, become a very keen admirer of lawns and leaf blowers jumping into gardens and embrace the old Victa…and owner
Who knows.?
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What Julian said…
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Which one asty?
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Under the name ‘Carisbroke’; down the bottom of the page…
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Emmjay, wishing you and FM the very best of travels…ah, to be in Paris at midnight again, or any time…say Hi to Mona-Lisa from me, no doubt you two will be doing some gallery hopping 🙂
Regards, Helvi (borrowing Gez’ computer, left mine in Sydney)
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The one thing the pub gives me is the freedom to write something, to give it a go so to speak. It probably took me a year to post a piece here, my first at a difficult time for me and my family gave me an outlet to say something in a somewhat supportive environment. Lately it’s been as a backup for Waz whilst he’s away or having treatment. Its time consuming but enjoyable none the less.
The episodes of earlier this year were distressing, to watch one of our patrons appear to have a full blown breakdown publically, then to lash out at nearly everyone, well we don’t need to revisit that. I miss HOO and wish him a speedy recovery and hope one day that he returns with the humour we all know and love. However, at the moment he’s best working on recovery.
Robust debate is fine; in fact I’m sure we don’t mind it. But attacks on one another and ad hominems aren’t. Piglets this is our pub, let’s try and encourage others to join us (says he who wouldn’t know where to start.).
Can I encourage everyone to post a piece every now and again, that’s how this place will prosper rather than wither.
Anyhow that’s my two penny’s worth. Emms comments have much resonance here, Oh and that newspapers never have any good news in them.
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Testing again. Posts stuck in spam?
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Yes, they were stuck in spam. Happy to oblige but I my not be hanging about the pub all day, as exciting as it all is.
The reason the posts were stuck in spam is they both had those links to Zinger embedded in them. Was this intentional? I think I’ll email you about it.
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I have deleted the links in case they were included by a virus. Sorry to be so high-handed if it was intentional.
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Hi Voice, As I have just written in my email to you it was just a bit of fripperry. I found a sight which can be used to post cartoons with messages to a blog (ostensibly). I don’t know if it would have worked or not.
Perhaps we’ll never know.
BTW, everybody, I am oblivious, impervious and bullet proof – as I have shown before.
I will argue aggressively and point out the faults (the ears & turds), but not insult people personally.
I don’t want anyone to cry :-
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Hmmmm – searched to see what was the problem. All I see is a terrible misunderstanding where there shouldn’t be. Deary me. I came to the PA for some decent chat, not as an author of rejected articles. But I have written some decent stuff here in the way of mostly cooking articles. By the way, I’ve run out of dishes to write about without digging in my very secret best stuff which I never give the recipe to anyone unless they have first eaten it. They are that special.
Now, as I have liberated myself from those fuckwits I will set my sights on writing something of interest for all to digest and comment on in coming months.
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Hello Elizabeth,
Thank you for visiting our Blog which is soon to celebrate its third year of existence. It is indeed puzzling how people at times seem to hurl themselves into conflict.
At the moment, the timbre is decidedly somewhat shrill with the metronome behaving erratically.
Sticking to Emmjay’s crisis, I agree that the walking dog etc comments have their place but only if replied to an article. We seemed to have forgotten that this was set up to write pieces or articles for others to comment on. The cosy in between one liners directed at the Dot, ‘Leash and The dump’ etc seem to now have overtaken the Pig’s.
Inevitably it seems, personal attacks instead of article attacks infiltrated our blog. When pointed out, some apologized and others chose not to, perhaps feeling their personal attacks were beyond reproach and justified.
I always enjoy writing but am at times critical of Australia, especially on its zinc-aluminated culture of endless suburbia, front lawns, leafblowers and social isolation. I also bang-on about our well nurtured xenophobia towards boat people. My critical look at Australia is never out of indifference.
However, when an independent piece was published on the ecomic collapse of Greece, this was also seen as heresy and the howls of protests from our Greek division became such that I decided to pull it. Those that scream the loudest also are often the best at leveling ad hominem attacks.
When I praised Australia for having a Nobel Prize winning author, Patrick White, some of the personal Pig Arm’s invective soared to even greater heights. It was almost the most cardinal sin since Adam and Eve. It resulted in my partner who has always been one of the most faithful and benevolent Pig’s supporter being slammed as ‘ a tag’ with a further response by another accusing me, (Gerard) of being a wife beater. This was then seen as an inside esoteric joke which I was unable to grasp because of my less than formal education. This was followed by more and more sillyness, belittling and denigrating.
As I said before, I do write because I like getting words out. I only started writing when encouraged by Emmjay and Stronach to do so. Thank you Emm and Stronach! I am paid for my articles on the ABC Drum and have had close to forty articles published so far. No ad hominem there.
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Quite right, Gez.
The “Greek division” is a pain in the arse and a hindrance to the pub’s serene and joyous existence. It is, in fact, all the fault of the “Greek division” and so, as its head, I shall remove its presence right now.
Mike please remove all my pieces.
Thank you
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Don’t even think of it Ato. I can’t drink ouzo by myself all the time.
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Exactly!
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A man has to do what a man has to do. Should you choose to leave for a period, and should that period turn out to be brief or indeed extended – all the best.
Should you choose to take your articles with you that is entirely up to you. I feel they belong here very specifically and their joyous spirit is best respected by leaving them, but it is entirely a matter for you to decide. So if Mrs At should bang you over the head with a frying pan when you try, please pay no attention to any mutterings about alleged petitions from that Voice woman over at the Pig’s Arms. 😉
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Can’t post as VL….Wordpress ?
Thinking, thinking.
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There is an old Chinese story that describes this well.
An old man had one son, one horse and a small farm on the edge of a village. One day his horse broke free and ran away. The villagers gathered together and visited the old man to tell him how sorry they were about his bad luck.
“Bad Luck? How do you know it is bad luck? It could be a blessing,” he said.
They were a little confused as they left. Several weeks later the horse returned, along with a herd of wild horses. The farmer now had 14 horses. The villagers gathered together and visited him, to tell him how lucky he was.
“Lucky? How do you know it is good fortune? It might be a problem,” he said.
One week later, his son fell from one of the wild horses and was trampled, severely injuring his legs. He became crippled for life. Once again the villagers visited to offer their condolences.
“Unfortunate? How do you know this? It could be a blessing,” the old man replied.
Later into the following year, the Emperor declared war on a neighbouring country, and all the able-bodied men were summoned to fight. The old man’s son could not go as he was maimed. The war lasted two seasons, during which time all the men from the village who fought had died. Once again the villagers visited to tell the old man how lucky he was.
“Lucky? How do you know that this is fortunate? It might be a problem.”
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The Wheel of Fortune. Ah, Tarot. I love Tarot.
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And, as the chorus says at the end of Sophocles’ “Oedipus Rex,”
“Let’s not praise a man for his good Fate unless he has arrived at his final day having escaped bad Fate.”
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Shopkeeper: [Homer has agreed to purchase a Krusty doll for Bart’s birthday] Take this object, but beware it carries a terrible curse!
Homer: Ooh, that’s bad.
Shopkeeper: But it comes with a free frogurt!
Homer: That’s good.
Shopkeeper: The frogurt is also cursed.
Homer: That’s bad.
Shopkeeper: But you get your choice of toppings.
Homer: That’s good!
Shopkeeper: The toppings contain potassium benzoate.
[Homer looks puzzled]
Shopkeeper: …That’s bad.
Homer: Can I go now?
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In terms of the ‘wheel of Fortune’ theme, Potassium Benzoate is a good thing if you suffer from a Urea Cycle Defect!
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I’m trying to write a paper on how blogging frames our lives as bloggers for a conference on autobiography and biography to be held later this year in Canberra, and your thoughts here are timely.
I suspect that the more time spent blogging together, the more familiar we become with one another. We can be like siblings in an overcrowded family who take swipes at one another hoping our underlying goodwill will suffice to offset the potential for giving offense.
After all, the Internet is a medium that lends itself to regressions, either of the flaming variety or of blind excesses in generosity, and the blogosphere becomes an open playground in which to find opportunities galore for self expression, but it’s also a place where we might try to conquer psychic and social chaos in sometimes extreme ways.
Three years is a meaningful period of time in the life of a blog but developmentally I consider it’s still young. It’s good to take stock from time to time, but only if dealing with the conflicts inherent in the reason for taking stock lead us onto further growth and not to abandonment.
If I were you I’d hang on in there.
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The price being a Pig’s Arms article about how blogging frames our lives? Hey, you can refine it later as the summary for the conference paper. 🙂
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Elisabeth, thank you for your comments. When Gez and I first started talking about a blog and I borrowed the pub as a metaphor from David Ireland’s “The Glass Canoe” (highly recommended read from a 1980s three time Miles Franklin Award winner), I was imagining it as mainly a way of telling stories and I had underestimated the potential for being a discussion or perhaps more properly a talk space.
I appreciate your vote of confidence and recommendation for persistence.
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Hi,
Just to acknowledge that I have read that and don’t want to make a quick thoughtless response.
Peace and love to all.
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I am tacking a note on here to say I have read Emmjay’s essay. I will return to contribute some thoughts as soon as I am able.
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I’m with you, ‘shoe, too tired, will engage brain tomorrow, then reply.
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