The Dump

The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.

 

NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.

give a crap

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The Pig’s Arms exists because eight or nine years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off.  Like a sack of prawn heads  in the sun.  Something had to be done.

Moderation was taking forever.  Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged.   When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !

So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit.  And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.

As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire.  And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.

So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog.  Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity.  Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.

And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments.  Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.

Cheers,

Emm.

14418 thoughts on “The Dump”

  1. algernon1 said:

    Strange times. Our fruit shop has 12.5kg bags of plain flour.

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    • Only 12.5 Kg bags? Tell ’em they’re dreamin’.

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      • Astyages said:

        Yeah… doesn’t surprise me now. Reckon a lot of people will have to go back to ‘old-style’ home baking… or will you let potentially disease-ridden bake your bread, pies, pasties and cakes from now on?

        I went to the local library to get a print-out of a few song-sheets yesterday, and it was closed for the duration! Went to Officeworks this arvo for a the same thing… social distancing marks on the floor spaced at 2 meters for the queues and the lady who served me (all self-serve machines closed to ‘minimize risk’) made me use my card for $1.25… (or she’d have to put rubber gloves on!)

        The more I realize what this virus has achieved that ‘just happen to’ fall in line with the desires of the NWO, the more I’m convinced it was created in a lab.

        E.g. Atomizing of the global populace through social isolation of individuals, thereby eliminating any possibility of public demonstrations from an angry public if and when they find out the real cause! Also acting as a very effective ‘curfew’ and putting us all under even more serious control than martial law! On top of which it very much looks like they’re going to introduce a totally ‘cashless’ society – if they haven’t already! – which has been a dream of the NWO for a long time now! And of course, the crashing of all global economies, also helping to facilitate the introduction of their new ‘cashless’ society! (And of course, multi-trillion dollar bail-outs for the banks when this happens!)

        The Chinese say the first cases were actually American servicemen in Wuhan… Coincidence?

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        • vivienne29 said:

          I don’t think there is any conspiracy. It’s just bloody big fucking disaster.

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        • The Chinese are lying about everything related to Covid-19. That’s the only conspiracy.

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        • Astyages said:

          Well Big M and Vivienne, I really hope you’re right… and yes, it is a big fucking disaster… but it ‘just so happens’ to be big fucking disaster that gives the NWO a LOT of things they’ve wanted for ages… Maybe it’s just coincidence… but you can bet your proverbial bippy that they’ll take as much advantage as possible of this disaster. (And remember the banksters’ motto, “Never let a crisis go to waste!” :/

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          • I agree. The other five coronaviruses that infect humans are pretty benign. Why is this so virulent and occasionally fatal? We seem to forget that Influenza A is very virulent, and also occasionally fatal. Hepatitis B isn’t so virulent but can kill through hepatic failure, or liver cancer. It also persists for many months on various surfaces or media. There have been many cases of bubonic plague in California, but no one seems to give a sh#* about that.

            In short, I don’t know. Part of me thinks it’s bullshit, another part says, run for the hills!

            I’ll drink another Coopers Sparkling instead!

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          • Astyages said:

            The reason there have been a few cases of bubonic plague in California, M, is because the USA IS working with ‘biological weapons’… and that’s one of them. They also have smallpox to play with. Something like cooking up an occasionally fatal coronavirus would be childs’ play for them! I could believe that the first cases came from American servicemen in Wuhan, because it would be unlikely for the Chinese to use such a biological weapon on their own… As for the fact that it has now spread to the USA, well, that just goes to show that psychopaths and/or sociopaths rarely think about the consequences of their actions! And karma’s a bitch! 😉

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          • I suspect that the Bubonic outbreak in California has more to do with the unsanitary conditions in places like downtown San Francisco where the streets are paved with urine, faeces, vomit and used needles, and less to do with clandestine military labs.

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          • Astyages said:

            M, from the kind of conditions you describe, we might expect all kinds of hepatitis, typhus and maybe even cholera… but plague?

            No, I doubt it… that kind of virus has to come from somewhere, and the USA HAS been cultivating diseases which were thought to have been eradicated for decades in labs, including bubonic plague, and smallpox, and, under the cover story of ‘trying to prevent, or ‘fight against’ biological warfare, in all probability conducting experiments in biological warfare themselves.

            I remember a similar ‘leak’ of plague from labs back in the 70s, when conditions were nowhere near as bad as they are now.

            Now, whether these ‘leaks’ are accidental, or for some secret experiment on its own population, is open to debate, I suppose… But we DO KNOW that the USA HAS been conducting biological (and mental) experiments on its own population for decades… eg. MK Ultra… not to mention the chem-trails. “We ain’t in Kansas any more, Toto!”

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          • Plague isn’t caused by a virus, it’s caused by Yesina Pestis, a bacterium.

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          • Astyages said:

            Okay M, I sit corrected… it’s not a virus but a bacterium. But it still has to come from somewhere. It’s not ‘sui generis’, is it? And the fact that it’s a bacterium rather than a virus doesn’t change the truth of the other things I’ve said about the USA cultivating such diseases in labs… and experimenting on their own people. (And they’re not the only ones who do this, either! Both the Brits and the Aussies have been known to so this… remember Maralinga? Sure it was a British experiment, but Aussies had to collaborate in it!)

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          • There have been small pockets of bubonic plague throughout the United States since 1900. There are also places all over the world where it remains endemic. in particular, South Africa, Madagascar and parts of South America. Hence there are sufficient reservoirs of the disease. It hasn’t arisen de novo, and while I don’t doubt that the US is doing plenty of research on disease warfare, I do doubt that the current bubonic plague cases in California are part of some government conspiracy.

            Yes, we all remember Maralinga, it’s in the public record.

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          • I’ve never seen a bubon, but nothing surprises me about the US.

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          • Astyages said:

            Well… again, I’d like to hope you’re right, M… however, I wouldn’t trust ANY government as far as I could throw Mt Everest. Take a look at this article:

            https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/3/20/18260669/deadly-pathogens-escape-lab-smallpox-bird-flu

            It still gives a ‘benign’ interpretation of why they’re creating more virulent strains of diseases, rather than admit they’re playing around with biological warfare, but the NWO have an agenda for depopulating the globe by about 90%… and diseases like these could do the job very well.

            Also, remember that Prince Phillip is on record as saying that if there is such a thing as reincarnation, that he’d like to come back as a virus and wipe out most of humanity. (Yes, he actually DID say this!)

            But of course, our governments would never do such a thing, right? They’re all working in the very best interests of We the People, aren’t they?

            And pigs might fly! :/

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        • vivienne29 said:

          One of my son-in-laws is a baker.

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      • Astyages said:

        Btw, M… did you know that the third largest cause of death in the USA currently is known as ‘iatrogenic causes’… I.e. ‘doctor-created’ causes…?

        Now, it could just be down to incompetence… or it could have something to do with the way the ‘medical industrial complex’ is structured, putting the profit of the corporation ahead of the welfare of their patients.

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        • Yes, of course I know. Do you really think there’s a medical industrial complex?

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          • Astyages said:

            Yes I do think there’s a ‘medical industrial complex’… (at least in a ‘de facto’, if not in a ‘de jure’ sense!) Do you have any idea how many billions of dollars are made each year by the pharmaceutical industry alone? And of course, in the USA (and, to a slightly lesser extent, even in the UK and here in Oz… though not for want of trying!) virtually all the hospitals are money-making concerns.

            It has been said, not entirely without reason, that “…they’d rather TREAT an illness than CURE it!” You see, treating an illness is an on-going source of revenue, but cure a patient and he may never come back. The economic effects of this are not lost on hospital administrators, whose bosses are not the doctors, but the corporation(s) which own the hospitals and corporations care for nothing so much as their own ‘bottom line’.

            This is not to say there are not many good and sincere doctors and nurses out there, but they are in a subordinate position and often have little say in the day-to-day running of the hospitals. (Or, they may be allowed their two-penn’orth for the sake of form, and then quickly over-ridden by the administrators…)

            And then there’s the FDA, whose methods of vetting new drugs is considerably less than rigorous in its assessment of both effects and side-effects. Who wants to stop such a huge gravy-train?

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  2. vivienne29 said:

    This pub has been so far ahead of the times. We’ve had a virtual pub for eleven years. We don’t have to shut down. The only pub in Australia still open to all. How good is that !

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    • I went to a zoom pub at home last Friday. We could do that too if we wanted . Live – face to face, BYO 😊

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      • vivienne29 said:

        I don’t have that facility with my set up. Hubby’s does – new laptop last year replacing his 5 year old one which also had camera. All my gear is 10 year old PC. Except modem is new as of January 2020. Nice thought though.

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      • algernon1 said:

        Excellent idea Emm. but as viv says you need the equipment.

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      • Astyages said:

        What’s a ‘zoom pub’ Emm? I went to the library today to get a printout of a few song-sheets for a few new songs I’m learning and the bloody place is shut! This is getting ridiculous! :/

        Btw, why do I have to sign in EVERY TIME I make a comment…? And I mean for EVERY SINGLE comment! Even if I tick the ‘keep me signed in’ box on the WordPress login page… Gets very tedious! :/

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        • Should not have to sign in every time. What browser are you using ?

          I’ll see if I can troubleshoot this with WordPress. Maybe some dipshit (ie me) has accidentally set something up. Anyone else getting this problem, patrons ?

          Zoom is a massively popular video conferencing App where anyone with reasonable bandwidth can see little moving pictures and sound from all participants in the session. App switches according to the speaker and also allows screen sharing.

          Sorry BTWxabout lagging with your next piece. I was flat out working from home, applying for a few new jobs just in case and being crook, tired and listless.

          Apart from that I’m ticketty boo. 😊

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          • Glad to hear you’re well, Therese! And I hope one of your applications is successful very soon!

            I reckon it could possibly be something I’ve done… maybe getting a tad ‘over-paranoid’ about my ‘privacy settings’ or something, but it IS annoying.

            Doubt it’s your fault, anyway. I’m using Chrome… and I seem to remember it wasn’t like this ’til I ‘adjusted’ some of the settings for my browser. I may need to allow cookies (hate doing that!) I’ll investigate a bit later when I’m not feeling too technophobic… probably need to get a lot more pissed off about it first! 😉

            Don’t worry about my next post… whenever it’s convenient for you is okay. Just let me know when you want a link to the next one. Or if you prefer, I think I could probably post say one a week on my own…? (I managed to post links to other YT items recently…) Might save you a little time.

            Anyway… whichever you prefer. Let me know what you decide. 😀

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          • vivienne29 said:

            I have to log in each day. I suspect it is because my email changed and my old one is still in the system and notifications of ‘likes’ go nowhere.

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          • Astyages said:

            Hi Vivienne… yes, I even have to log in every time I ‘like’ something too. It’s annoying, but a relatively minor inconvenience. I suppose eventually I’ll get pissed off enough to actually do something about it… I know, I should also do something about my procrastination… and I will… later… maybe tomorrow… or the next day… or maybe next week… 😉

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          • algernon1 said:

            I had to relog in a couple of weeks ago, nothing had changed.

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          • Yeah, I’m pretty sure the problem is at my end, Algae… that’s what I get for changing settings on my browser! I’ll get around to dealing with it… eventually! 😉

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          • vivienne29 said:

            I also wonder why every now and then my comment is awaiting moderation.

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          • Often if you have links in the comment it triggers a moderation. So yesterday I increased the number of links to 10 per comment. So please let me know if and when you get moderated. 😊

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          • Astyages said:

            No worries! Will do! 🙂

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          • Astyages said:

            Me too… but I suppose we know now. Didn’t know you liked porno, Vivienne… (Just kidding!) 😉

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          • vivienne29 said:

            Asty – you will to allow cookies. Otherwise the system will never remember you. You can clear them all say once a month of whatever. You will have to relog in once a month only then.

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          • Astyages said:

            Yep… looks like it Vivienne… Oh well. That’s the way the cookie crumbles, eh? 😉

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          • vivienne29 said:

            There were no links.

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          • I also changed your role from author to contributor To see if that would fix it.

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          • Astyages said:

            Nah… I think it’s down to me cranking up my security settings to the max. Not to worry… I’ll fix it. What, exactly, is the difference between ‘contributor’ and ‘author’ status?

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          • Fucked if I know. Maybe with lock down I’ll have the time to actually learn more than the barest minimum about WordPress 😊

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          • Lol! I’d say ‘you and me both’ but I’ve been in more or less permanent lock-down for the last ten years! (Well… slight exaggeration.. the last two or three years I’ve been starting to get out and about a bit!)

            Still know only what I need to know about pcs, the internet, browsers etc, to be a pretty ‘average’ dumb-end user… and I DO mean the ‘dumb end’!

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        • You aren’t in ‘privacy’ or ‘pornography’ mode are you? Any passwords, etc, won’t be retained in theses modes.

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  3. vivienne29 said:

    Wouldn’t it be great/nice/comforting if we had a competent government ‘managing’ this virus disaster. The shocking lack of management when it was clear how bad the situation had already become. People allowed off a cruise ship and no check and no mandatory detention and same for those arriving by plane. Dutton’s border farce NOT KEEPING US SAFE, not protecting us. Still looking for rickety little boats and ignoring ships and planes full of potentially dangerous people. A dithering, grinning PM who can’t communicate.

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    • He is a marketing man, that’s the problem. He is going to spend 1 billion on mental health. I can just see all those unemployed at home with the kids.
      Here is something to think about when governments start printing money.

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      • vivienne29 said:

        And that led to World War II because the allies wanted Germany to pay reparations. They did not have the money. I don’t think this is the same situation Gerard.

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        • Astyages said:

          It may not be exactly the same situation, Vivienne, but the risk of inflation (if not hyper-inflation) is still very real… Would you have liked to live in Germany during the Weimar Republic? (i.e. before WWII…) Or, if that’s not an accurate comparison, how about the USA during the Great Depression of the 1930s?

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    • I was under the impression that NSW Health were responsible for allowing passengers to disembark the Ruby Princess. I don’t think that the Federal Government or Border Force were involved until after the passengers had disembarked. This was based on the fact that the ship had only cruised between Australia and NSW, although it had been rated as ‘high risk’ for Corona virus after it’s last voyage.

      What sort of f(*&wit would have embarked on a cruise anytime after the middle of January?

      The other suspicious factor was that it arrived at night, and had everybody off the ship before business hours the next day.

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      • Betting that means a politicians kids or parents were on it – or given the current crop…. did anyone put a trace on mr potato head’s case ?

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        • I was thinking more all the lines of the cruise company’s culpability. Why are they still running cruises? A cruise ship is a human Petri dish.

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      • vivienne29 said:

        A lot of blame passing. The feds have control over airports. And if they can nab little boats surely they can stop big ones too. The ship went to NZ but not allowed in and returned to Sydney. But as you said, a floating petri dish. Madness to get on it in the first place.

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        • Absolutely. Yesterday I overheard one old bird crowing about how she got her cruise in just prior to the Federal Government’s quarantine. F(*&wit.

          Eldest cancelled a trip to Singapore over four weeks ago. Probably would have been OK, but wasn’t worth the risk.

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  4. A good solid stand-by is Spam or tinned corned beef. It stood the test of time and i’s lubricating jelly helps constipation from all the self-isolating and sitting around. Oddly enough, Aldi still has it, so go out and get some.

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  5. vivienne29 said:

    Two Covid 19 cases in my Shire. Don’t know where they are, the place is 5746 square kilometres.

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    • Sounds like the 1.5 meter separation won’t be a major issue, then. 😊. All the best to you and H.

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    • Covid 19 seems to have finally caught up with Smithfield Plains… our local Coles has so many empty shelves now it’s beginning to look like the old USSR. Did my shopping today, since I don’t have the virus (or so the hotline tells me!) and at least managed to get most of what I need.

      What annoys me about these shortages is that it’s not as if there are any actual shortage of food or other household items (like bog rolls, for example!) The shortages just wouldn’t happen at all if it were not for selfish idiots stocking up unnecessarily.

      “Unnecessarily?” I hear someone ask… “YES!” I answer, in strident tones! “Bloody unnecessary, as those who catch the virus and have to self-isolate can easily order online (or over the phone, I suppose) and have their groceries delivered.”

      “Oh!” but I hear that same selfish moron object, “There’s a fee for home delivery!”

      Well, yes there is, but when you consider what the laws of ‘supply and demand’ will do for any shortages of consumer goods, that $10 fee (or whatever it is) will be more than made up for by increased prices on whatever is in high demand and short supply…

      Albert Einstein once said, “Two things are infinite: The Universe… and Human Stupidity! But I’m not quite sure about the Universe!”

      Ain’t THAT the truth? “Homo Sapiens Sapiens”? “THINKING MAN”???

      I should cocoa! 😦

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      • vivienne29 said:

        My IGA has been rationing stuff for 1.5 weeks. The loo paper and tissues are still either not there or a limited amount of unknown branded stuff appears. They can’t get their usual stocks. No flour, no pasta and lot of tinned stuff all gone. We’re still getting non village shoppers.

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        • I saw last week that Young was invaded by bus loads of ‘city types’ who bought out the town. Aldi closed at midday after telling them all to f*&^ off back to their caffeine free, non-dairy lattes.

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          • vivienne29 said:

            I mentioned that on the Guardian as it happened at Rutherglen (as told to me by check out lady Belinda whom I’ve known for ten years – the bus was full of Chinese and they tried the same a bit further along at Corowa but Rutherglen warned them and they were turned away). Some people think all this was a racist rumour. I don’t think it was. But plenty of people have raided and hoarded. Can’t get away with it now. I had to resort to buying a lot of panadol/paracetamol when I had the chance and glad I did as the stuff is disappearing. Hubby needs to take lot and we get through it like peanuts (or so it seems).

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          • Mum’s pharmacist seems to have put basic analgesia aside for his regular customers, but the supermarkets don’t seem to have any stock. Perhaps with hubby’s history your local pharmacy could do the same. Earlier this week I took Mum ‘panic shopping’ because ‘everything is jumping off the shelves’, which always gets downgraded to weekly shopping when she sees just how much is available. Anyhoo, no chicken, veal etc, only scotch fillet and lamb. Thursday they had the normal range of meats. Go figure.

            There is some talk about legislating against profiteering from hoarding, but I doubt the police will have time to prosecute this if they are busy monitoring peoples distancing.

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        • algernon1 said:

          I haven’t seen a roll of the Howards on the shelf for weeks now, we have enough here though. It might be available during the pensioners hour, but I’m not going at that hour even though I can. I don’t get it, there is plenty of fresh food on the shelves. Even our fruit shop and butcher have plenty on the shelves. At times though it’s a question of supply

          As for country towns and villages, the owners of the supermarket should deny those they don’t recognise, unless it’s with good cause.

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          • vivienne29 said:

            My butcher has plenty of meat and been flat out. Supermarket nearly sold out everything the other week. Some people !!

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          • algernon1 said:

            Last week there were a couple of days where it went berserk for them, the shop almost stripped of meat, went for a couple of days then settled down. The fruit shop said much the same. Plenty he hasn’t seen before passing through, yet yesterday he was quiet. Yep I agree some people.

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  6. vivienne29 said:

    Dan Murphy’s is rationing grog. Now I am alarmed!

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    • Now I’m alarmed. 🙂

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    • algernon1 said:

      What! Not Bamboozled.

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    • Bastards. This is good old fashioned FoMO fear of missing out marketing. I was in there yesterday buying my usual pallet of Trotter’s Ale, case of Laphroig and a half pallet of mixed reds and whites, six bots of tequila, case of Tanqueray T10 and a case of Moët.

      Place was deserted. I don’t effing get it !

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    • Me too, Vivienne… The Irish Club sent me an email saying it was ‘shut until further notice’!

      Worse than that, though… I think I’ve caught the Dreaded Lurgie!

      Yesterday I was coughing and sneezing a bit… not much… just enough to worry me. And I’ve been aching all over too. But I’d put that down to my new exercise class… which may well be where I caught the damn thing. Not sure if it’s a cold or mild ‘flu, or the dreaded COVID lurgie…

      I don’t feel all that bad. Just not 100% (Well… tbh I’ve not felt 100% since my accident; let’s say I don’t feel my usual 70% or so…)

      Not sure what to do… probably self-isolate for a while. Which basically means no more exercise for a month, I suppose, and I’ll have to order my groceries online and have them delivered. And I suppose I should phone Aimee to tell her not to come in to clean my house for the next couple of fortnights… (That’s another possible source of infection, actually… she may have it herself, as she works at the RAH!)

      I don’t want to go to the doctors ’cause the waiting room is usually pretty crowded… but I suppose I’d better phone them and see if I can take the test. Wonder if they’re doing house-calls to minimize infection spreading in waiting rooms?

      Funny thing is, even though I don’t feel very well, I really don’t feel too bad, either. Just a bit achy, and a slight headache this afternoon.

      Anyway, don’t come too close! (Rings hand-bell loudly!) UNCLEAN! UNCLEAN! 😦

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      • OK Asty, my cousin Terry had this experience…. sore throat, cough, lots of cough, chest pain, snotty nose. Emmlet 1 advised him to go to emergency and report the chest pain, which in old farts is always taken seriously – could be a heart attack or in Terry’s case pneumonia or pleurisy- both also potential killers. Heart attack suspected ? Go to the top of the queue.

        Terry was isolated, had a cardio gram and X-ray – nothing. Blood tests – for damaged heart proteins – nope. Corvid-19 swabs ! Took 3 days to report- but came back negative. Diagnosis- pain most likely some torn intercostal muscles (between ribs). Terry had no elevated temperature. Most likely he did have a severe cold.

        Terry said that people showing up in emergency coughing were masked up and tested in an annex outside of the hospital. But there is a long backlog of test result reporting – unless clearly in danger, patients were being sent home with ventolin and sometimes steroids.

        Note – Terry’s not offering medical advice – he’s just telling his story

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        • Thanks Therese, and Big M, for that reassurance…

          As it happens, I’ve already rung my local medical practice, who gave me the phone number for the COVID 19 emergency hotline.

          For anyone else who thinks they may need a test, here it is: 1800 020 080.

          They’ll ask you a few questions about your symptoms and assess whether you need the test…

          Turns out, I don’t even need the test… I’ve probably just caught a bit of a cold.

          Mind you, the fact that the Irish Club is closed is still a bit worrying, but they’re closing just about everything now, out of sheer paranoia I suspect… (and yes, I know… takes one to know one!)

          Thanks again dudes! Appreciate your concern! 😀

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        • PS: Btw, Therese, when are you going to publish my ‘Albatross’ video? 😉

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      • Here in Newcastle there are roving throat swabbers who will come to your house dressed up as alien invaders from a bad fifties sci fi film and perform the necessary screening tests. I assume that you can ring the GP practice to organise it. In the mean time, fluids, paracetamol , Netflix, You Tube, cryptic crosswords…..

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        • Astyages said:

          I wish that were the case, M… but the fact is the USA have been cultivating the plague and lots of other nasties, including smallpox, in labs to use as biological weapons. (Or, supposedly, to study how to ‘prevent’ them from being used as biological weapons… good cover story, huh?) Besides, from those conditions, you might expect all sorts of hepatitis, typhus and that sort of disease… which is nasty enough… but plague? No… that virus has to come from somewhere first! Rumor has it that it has ‘leaked’ out from the labs… now whether or not that ‘leak’ was an accident or a controlled experiment on the local population is open to question, I suppose… But remember, the USA HAS been conducting all kinds of biological and psychological experiments on its own populace in secret for decades! (See, for example, MKUltra! Not to mention the ‘chem-trails’… so we KNOW it DOES happen. This is not ‘conspiracy theory’… it is conspiracy FACT!) We’re not in Kansas any more, Toto! :/

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