The Dump is:
For posting comments that don’t get up at the Drum, and for having a pleasant, mirthful or enlightening off-topic discussion.
It’s not for personal abuse of other commenters.
Please do that somewhere else if you must.
Play nicely or piss off.
However, why doesn’t a poster add a link for us to read and comment on here, much quicker. Maybe we can do a bit more bagging here, not that I speak for the moderators, yet.
NB: Being tiresome and boring, racist, sexist or just plain creepy is not playing nicely.
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The Pig’s Arms exists because a dozen or so years ago our other favourite playpen – the ABC’s Unleashed blogsphere started to go off. Like a sack of prawn heads in the sun. Something had to be done.
Moderation was taking forever. Comments seemed to be rejected randomly – outrageous ones appeared and reasoned ones were pinged. When they released the Drum / Unleashed ….. things actually got worse !
So many pieces from professional writers appear with no obvious merit. And the moderation has become, to put it frankly, appalling.
As a former contributor and a commenter, I was deeply disappointed at the plummeting quality from our pre-eminent media empire. And I resented so many challenging or dare I say, witty or funny posts in which we’ve invested seconds of our precious time – getting the chop.
So here, for all our benefit – is an open slather blog. Copy and paste your best rejected comments here for posterity. Does not matter whether you’re posting on the Guardian, First Dog on the Moon or wherever else.
And sprinkle pointers to the Pig’s Arms amongst your comments. Let’s try to rescue some of the old faithful.
Cheers,
Emm.
Window Dresser's Arms, Pig & Whistle 
An example of the quality of a Lib supporters comment on the Guardian:
The ALP must be very pleased with themselves at forcing the resignation of Christine Holgate, and she must be regretting taking a pay cut to work for the a public sector enterprise. No wonder the quality of public sector management is so average when this is how successful executives are treated.
it got 2 upticks.
My reply:
Gawd, it was Morrison who said she must go.
I got 44 upticks.
And comments were about to close.
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Scotty the Stupid opened up the taxpayer to an open slather unfair dismissal with his stupidity. So ignorant is this fool he doesn’t realise that GOC’s and those employed in them are not Public Servants.
If the executives got $3 or $5k cash bonuses nobody would be worried, but because they’re watches. Didn’t Stuart Robert keep a Rolex?
Your comment deserved more.
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And who wears watches now anyways. I use my mobile phone.
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So do I.
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The TGA is a bit testy ATM. Been pinged this week everytime I mention Craig Kelly, well, they don’t like me saying Dozen Donuts or Donutus Eaterus.
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Can’t call him fat it seems.
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No he’s somewhat protected everywhere.
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I don’t even know who you’re talking about… but it sounds funny anyway! So glad I chose to ignore politics (almost) completely! The world looks so much better that way… like a re-run of the ‘Clangers’ or something… Wonder who the ‘Soup-Dragon’ is these days… 😉
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Craig Kelly is the Member for Hughes, he’s about as useful as a one legged arse kicker. He’s pretty dim. His claim to fame is that he worked in his parents furniture business. He is protected in Hughes, last election Scotty the Stupid stepped in to ensure that he wasn’t deselected. He belongs a faction in the Liberal Party that once had Tony Abbott. He is a brown nosed fan of The Donald and parrots anything he says. He is a big fan of Hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of COVID-19 and claims it is supported by peer reviewed testing even though he has no medical training.
During the week he claimed he’d been wronged in the parliament and attempted to have is say, the speaker shut him down. Albo even shouted that he was sprouting dangerous comments in its use.
Oh and he has a penchant for donuts, preferably by the tray.
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I’m being moderated at TGA just because I told some dickhead to fuck off. Gee, some folk are just so sensitive. 🙂
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Which dickhead was that HOO. I got moderated during the day but picked up a Guardian Pick, second for the week. it was 1960 with his usual shite talk.
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I think it was Sir Arthur but the whole thread got wiped and I’m now being pre-moderated.
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I’ve only been pre moderated once. Only lasted a day or two.. I wonder sometimes why some posts and not others. Young Arty can be a dick. Used to work for Murdoch
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I’ve been pre-moderated a few times for being tactless but they do reinstate you if you behave. I think they might had realised that some of the comments in that thread were pretty poor.
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What happens when you are being pre-moderated and how do you know that they is what is happening?
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When you go to post a message appears at the top of the comment box telling you that you are being pre-moderated. If you stay tactful for awhile they reinstate you. BTW, if pre-moderated and your comments are okay they get posted anyway.
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I told someone to FO and got wiped. I was surprised to see Bert from Eltham got wiped a few times last week. Left me wondering what on earth he wrote to deserve it.
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Now that’s highly unusual. I find Bert goes off topic a bit, maybe it was that.
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Yes, but his off topics are actually very relevant. Like parables. Lovely lessons.
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TESTING. Not sure if I’m logged in. Been having huge probs with internet, have reset stuff.
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I’m totally underwhelmed and depressed by the Budget.
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I think it based on heroic assumptions. Economy rebounding by 4.75% sounds like back in the black next year. It’s sad we have Treasurer who has no idea what he’s doing and Prime Minister who prefers being a Dictator.
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Scummo is a dickhead not a dictator.
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He’s both.
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The pub has had a huge makeover.
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It’s certainly modernised.
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I think its Wallaroo.
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I think you’re right, Mark! I knew I’d seen that hotel somewhere before! 😀
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It’s the Criterion Hotel Motel at Quorn SA. A quick bit of detective work.
https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.3455556,138.0410916,3a,75y,137.29h,88.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swyxfnTy-4SjX8N_y4lwg3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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Ah… Quorn… I’ve been there too… Knew I’d seen it somewhere! 😉
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Could have sworn in was from the square in Wallaroo but good work Algernon. Quorn is a funny little town. Every building on one side of the road and full of history. So Asty when you were there did you go on the railway trip?
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Yes, I know what you mean, Mark. It does look a lot like the main square in Wallaroo… but now that I think about it, where the pub is, I think there’s a bait shop now. The main pub in Wallaroo is back a street or two… I forget its name, though.
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Vale Helen Reddy.
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Vale Max Merritt
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I didn’t know ! Met him in London at a gig where about 15 of us turned up. Always admired him.
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Yesterday apparently, he had an autoimmune disease call Goodpasture Syndrome. The people you meet in London hey. David Bowie, Huey Lewis, Mrs A.
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Here’s a nice mellow track fro an Irish band, Capercaillie Soft but beautiful tones.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=truth+calling+capercaillie+
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Today marks seven years since this clusterfuck of a Federal government was elected. Who can forget, Tones arriving with the family looking like they had come from White Lady Funerals. Anyhow someone posted this documentary from Tones first day as PM wondering WTF do I do now.
We can only hope that as the ne UK Trade Envoy that Australia’s gain will be the UK’s.
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Here’s a good punchy track from an underrated Australian band.
Slave – The Badloves.
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It’s funny, since I installed a VPN it doesn’t always allow me to log in to WordPress. I’m either Mark or Anonymous.
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Are you blogging from Azerbaijan, again?
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I can’t even say Azerbaijan
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Nice
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For Viv.
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Algy – this is the concert that had me fall in love with the Pointer Sisters Live in Paris 1985 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqTMdZOwFlc
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Sadly – Hubby died at 1.15 am this morning. He was to come home today after a stint in pall.care having collapsed last Friday and went on to oxygen. Was classed as not terminal and we’d made all arrangements and had hospital bed installed at home etc etc. This Border closure and mad Border Bubble meant my daughters could not visit. I knew he was seriously unwell – he’d deteriorated a lot the last few weeks. I saw him yesterday afternoon. He was 81 going on 82 in October.
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So sorry to hear that, dear Viv.
Grieving families seem to be the last thing on the government’s (of either persuasion) mind.
You are in our thoughts, which seems like a feeble thing to say, but it’s true.
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Dear Big.
I’m sure at the Pigs Arms we all share the same disgust with Morrison and his Bad joke of a government.
Albo served it up yesterday at the National Press Club. He did an excellent job sheeting it home to this do nothing government. He even gave them an 8 point plan for sorting out aged care.
If you missed it , have a look on iView.
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I don’t really know what to say Viv. Truly sad for all concerned. Condolences to you and yours.
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I’m so sorry for your loss, Vivienne. All I can offer you is my condolences and best wishes, and I know that even these are pitifully inadequate.
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Shed a tear for you and your daughters, our Dear Viv.
With love and my tiny Buddhist prayers for you, our great friend.
Mike.
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Oh Viv, I’ve just read. Words fail me.
You know my views on the stupidity of border closures and their arbitrary nature. That you family cannot be there with you due to a line on paper.
Best wishes and strength in the coming days. My love Algy.
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It is crazy Algy. Family can visit our home but were not allowed in Palliative Care – only allowed me because he was not classed as terminal. Well, they got that 100% wrong. We are having a wake here on Monday and will celebrate his life.
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I hope all goes well today for you and the family Viv. A celebration of a life well lived is important.
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Echoing Algae, Vivienne, I hope all goes well for you and the family today. 81 is not a bad innings by any means… but it’s a pity he didn’t make the century. My thoughts are with you.
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Echoing Algae, Vivienne, I hope all goes well for you and the family today, Vivienne. 81 is not a bad innings by any means… but it’s a pity he didn’t make the century. My thoughts are with you.
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I’m sure that you had a day of reflecting on great memories.
I hope that you and your daughters are OK.
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Just need to say – ALL LIBERALS ARE BASTARDS.
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Thank you. Much appreciated. I think it bears repeating. Liberals want life to be tidy and lucrative. I suspect that a few might realise That Disadvantaged humans deserve to be treated with compassion. Sadly they are genetically incapable.
If they weren’t such bastards, I’d feel sorry for them.
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Agreed, Vivienne… but I think it bears saying that not all bastards are Liberals.
I can’t help but remember how shocked I was when so-called ‘Labor’ prime monster, Paul Keating ripped the heart out of any truly socialist programs Australia may have had left over from the days of Gough Whitlam by introducing fees for higher education in our universities, thus ensuring that eventually only the wealthy will be able to afford further education.
We’re not quite as badly off as the USA at present, of course… but give it time. Already education is being treated as any other commodity and largely being sold off to China and students from other countries rather than have those places occupied by Australian students.
Gord forbid that Australia ever have an educated electorate! They might then have half a chance of seeing through our ‘Demockery’…
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Thanks for sharing that Viv, I can only concur. Practised arseholes all of them.
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How are you all? Covid news coverage seems to have covered up Morrison’s vile doings. I’m not happy. He’s getting away with murder – the environment, our rights, democracy and so much. The MSM are asleep at the wheel – few independents doing the right thing and exposing the bastardy going on but most people are kept ignorant and compliant.
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Going well viv, how’s things in your part of the world.
I have to agree with the MSM being asleep at the wheel and this abomination of a PM is getting away with doing nothing. I hate the fact that he can just call off the parliament at a whim, preferring the tin pot dictatorship. What I cannot stand with these sheeples in the MSM is that they don’t press the stupid one when he doesn’t like a question or if he is put under scrutiny.
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Almost as if the people who own the media are the same people who ‘own’ the prime monster, eh, Algae?
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Living is such a small country town you don’t know if you are in lock down or not.
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The border permit system change is madness. Stupid effing Liberals – too many people hurting for no reason. Not happy.
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Yes the 2km rule defies logic viv. Impacts you badly I guess.
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It is not a regular 2km zone. We think the idiot who drew the lines used old info and excluded new suburbs – did not consult with the Councils. Daughter in Wodonga got a compassionate permit. Son-in-law can’t come and mow lawns etc and grand kids can’t come. There is no normal life.
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It’s utterly ridiculous that these border communities be cut in half by lines on pieces of paper. These clots don’t seem to realise that border towns and cities are effectively the same towns and cities. I found it bizarre yesterday that 80 people who live in Albury but work at the hospital in Wangaratta were unable to turn up for work as they faced 14 days quarantine if they returned. These clots need to get out of Sydney to realise that people actually travel like that for work.
As an aside, my sister was admitted to hospital yesterday, nothing life threatening; she has profound health issues. Only one person with her. Fortunately hospital is nearby.
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You’re so right with your understanding. So many people who work in Sydney do long commutes via train and spending hours doing that. I’m 24 km from Albury CBD by road and can drive there in 20 minutes. But I’m still in the Zone !! Many farmers are married to nurses and other health workers. One of our health contacts re hubby’s cancer lives near Buttumbuttock which is further out – they are also farmers.
We’ve had the visitor limit thing here – one visitor. 2 hours is plenty for us, but two visitors would have been better. I hope your sister is stabilised quickly. Last thing you need – and I know ! – too well.
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Yep one only has to look at the traffic heading down from the Central Coast or the trains. In my last job, I had to work at Penrith 2-3 days a week and the rest in the city. Fortunately we has Newcastle Trains stop at our station. I’d time those with the Mountains trains just under the hour for a 60 km trip (by train less by car). Even against the peak these trains were full.
It’s been that way for years with my sister, her meds keep her in a certain space of normality, occasionally she goes out of whack and a few days in hospital recalibrates. She turns 60 in September which is not an age we thought she’d ever make, 15 years ago we almost lost her on a few times but she survived after many weeks in hospital. It’s like the issues with one of the children, you just deal with it, though with my sister I’m not doing heavy lifting.
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Hi Viv… and Algae… I’ve been following this conversation, but I’ve already commented on how this Covid19 scare is being used to get Aussies used to the imposition of totalitarian conditions they would never tolerate under normal circumstances, so I didn’t really have much else to add… Other than to say that this crap about line-drawing, I suppose, just shows the extent to which the government will go, and the extent to which ‘We the People’ (sadly!) will put up with it…
However I couldn’t help myself when I saw the name of one of the towns you mentioned in one of your posts: Buttumbuttock… I think this name is wonderful! It’s hilarious and I just can’t help but wonder what kind of people live there. (No offense intended to the inhabitants… ‘Buttumbuttokians’?) I reckon, if nothing else, they must have a great sense of humor!
But I think this name is just a single letter short of comedy perfection: It badly needs another ‘b’… immediately after the ‘m’… so that it reads, “Buttbumbuttocks”. I reckon that would just put the cherry on top of the icing on the cake.
I’m almost curious enough to make a pilgrimage there next summer… maybe after the Girgarre Moosic Muster, I might make it a second stop before returning to Adelaide. I’d offer to drop in and visit, Vivienne, if the road goes anywhere near your neck of the woods, and I didn’t think I’d probably be breaking some ‘lock-down law’ or something. (Oh hell! I doubt I’d let that stop me… but I wouldn’t want to get you into trouble!)
Anyway… I hope your hubby is doing well and is on the mend. And I hope you can get around, over, or otherwise past all these stupid restrictions, which I’m also sure are counter-productive. I’m quite sure that the ‘lock-down’ will actually cause more deaths than the virus itself would have had there been no lock-down at all!
All the best to you and your hubby, Vivienne… and also to you, Algae and your sister. I hope she too gets well soon. 🙂
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Sorry I missed this reply Asty. If you’re from Burrumbuttock you are also from Burrum. I don’t know but I think it must be Aboriginal with an English translation. No one in this area thinks it is funny, just normal. With other towns like Yackandandah, Tallangatta, Tamgambalanga in the area – why would you !!! hehehe. Hubby is not getting any better, very crook, lost so much weight. It’s full on for me – on duty 14 hours a day, 7 days a week. If I didn’t have internet I’d be stuffed. Thanks for your thoughts. I hope we can all travel freely next year. We shall see hey.
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I must have mis-read the name, Vivienne… I thought it was ‘Buttumbuttock’, rather than ‘Burrumbuttock’, which is only have as funny. I didn’t intend any offense to the residents. Sorry to hear Hubby’s not getting any better. Best wishes to you both.
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No offence. A lot of newcomers also think it is hilarious for a little while.
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It was much funnier when I thought it was ‘Buttumbuttock’… It’s the matching of the ‘butt’ with the ‘buttock’ that I thought was funny. Burrumbuttock on its own certainly wouldn’t be worthy of a pilgrimage solely on the basis of its name, though. Oh well… back to plain old Smithfield… Have a nice day, Vivienne! 🙂
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I did a bad typo when I did write Butt and not Burr. My arthritis is making my fingers less responsive and a bit inaccurate.
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No worries Vivienne… I’m just glad it’s not my eyes going funny! Have you tried fish oil for the arthritis? 🙂
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Not specifically although I eat a lot of fish and sardines. My kind of arthritis is an odd one and anti-inflammatory pills which are also pain killers keep it sort of under control.
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That should have been, “only HALF as funny…” 😉
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Here’s another Crack the Sky track, 1994 I think.
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They sound like Pink Floyd to me but then again what would I know.
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A can see the Pink Floyd link, a be Brick in the Wallish. Not bad.
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They made 18 albums since 1975. They must have upset someone big time.
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45 years and still going, but not that widely known.
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Permit system up and running. Wodonga daughter has hers and for grandchildren and I got mine this morning. Yay
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Hi Viv… I’m sorry to hear about your hubby’s deterioration. Must be a very hard time for you all right now. I’m happy to hear that you got your permits…
But I can’t help but think “So now, right here in Australia, people need a permit to go and visit their relatives in a neighboring town…”
This reminds me of Northern Ireland during the ‘Troubles’… or Palestine currently. This ‘Covid19’ scare has certainly done a lot of work for the Government and the New World Order in terms of getting Aussies to accept social controls they would never have tolerated previously.
Anyway, be that as it may, I hope things get better for you in the near future.
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I’ve basically been in some form of lock down for 2.5 years. Thanks for your kind thoughts.
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Good news viv
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It’s completely bizarre, isn’t it? Very badly communicated with the respective Albury/Wodonga mayors knowing bugger all about this in an interview on Tuesday.
Sorry to hear about your husband. It’s probably the worst time in Australian history for people with chronic diseases. I’ll bet he’s glad that your family will be able to freely visit.
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May all your problems be little ones
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Vale Ennio Morricone.
As you might know, I’m a fan of his soundtracks for spaghetti westerns, even posted a couple of lists here.
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Lot of good work from Algy today. Must say I could cheerfully throttle that old turd Taffy. I think he had a hangover of giant proportions and was extra special stupid today.
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Thank you viv, yes Taff is a special brand of idiot. What I love about him is his ability to lead with his jaw.
I saw your post on the closure of the border and your situation with the family today (Monday). I’d like to hope that permits would be granted for daughters and husbands. By the way I had a letter published in the SMH on the closure and the impracticality of closing it last Wednesday,
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Thanks Algy. Situation with husband gone downhill since February. I saw your SMH letter. We are hoping all residents of Albury-Wodonga will automatically be exempt. Daughter in Wodonga is trying not to panic. She’s coming over every few days and is to take us to the cancer hospital for his immunotherapy on Monday. Other daughter is also here every second day – or as needed. I’m doing full time caring – he’s back on nose tube feeding too.
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PS: it was a good letter.
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Friends, I know most of you are regulars at TGA but I’ve read this a couple times and the comments. This was a great belly laugh.
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/jun/24/monkey-christ-worst-art-repairs-of-all-time
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Absolutely hilarious, Algy. The demonic Maggie Simpson Jesus took the cake.
What is it with the Spaniards ? They seem to have taken botching religious art to a whole new level.
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Exactly, I thought the statue was hilarious. The 2000 year old tower getting the sponge bob square pants makeover was excellent too.
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See you got pinged on Guardian. I’m just on – had a planned power outage – stayed in bed till nearly 2 pm !!
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For Algy.
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I did yesterday Viv, one completely smoked and removed, two others “not in the guidelines”
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Keep up the good work, Algae… if you’re getting ‘pinged’ you’re probably doing something right! 🙂
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Well I mentioned Abbott, Howard and Heydon in the one post as well as talking about the standard you walk past, is the standard you accept. for some reason they didn’t like it.
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Don’t mention Dyson Heydon at TGA, the smoke it straight away.
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Vale Bonny Pointer
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Another one bites the dust unfortunately.
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Have their best CD in my car – playing it when driving. Wonderful singers.
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Very odd
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What’s odd, Algae?
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Had to relog in on my phone.
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Oh… maybe you disabled cookies or something. Or changed your privacy settings… We’ve just had this conversation… 😉
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No might have something to do with me turning off my phone. Was trying to log onto another site. Had problem with the password etc even though they were right. Can log on the computer but not the phone even though I have all points access. I’ll get Junior onto it next time I see him.
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I remember the late John Clarke identifying it as the farnarkler.
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I’ve have to relog in heaps of times. Nothing different at this end.
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Sorry to hear Viv. I’m hoping Mr Hung might be able to check on the log in issue. I am totally flat out working from home. Half of our team were laid off and we survivors have twice the workload. Not complaining- just a bit overrun. Fond regards, Emm.
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Must be the flux capacitor. Happening to me as well.
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It’s a shit design. Should never have been released in the first place.
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This happened to me some years back. It just seemed to resolve.
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From Astyages
Here’s the first part of my very first real ‘Blues Jam’ for you to post
at the Pigs Arms… with me playing along with a LOT of other blues
musicians.
https://youtu.be/51UTUtgOHfM
Totally improvising! Let me know what you think…
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Pretty good. Hard to keep a big bunch of musos on the same path.
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Yeah… it was a bit like herding cats… but there were times when it definitely seemed to be coming together. Overall, though, I don’t think it was too bad to listen to, and it was fun taking part. (I think I managed to at least stay more or less in the right key… most of the time!)
For anyone who hasn’t heard of it, Girgarre’s annual ‘Moosic’ Muster (so-called because it supposedly takes place in a cow-paddock) happens every year around January, when musicians from all over Australia gather at Girgarre in Victoria for a few days of jamming, workshops and walk-up performances, some of which happen on stage in the local Town Hall (it’s a very small, country town) and some of which, including performances by ad-hoc, ‘out of the hat’ bands, happen under a purpose built ‘sound-shell’ in the aforementioned cow-paddock, which is adjacent to the camp-site.
Tickets for the 3-4 day event, including camp-site fees and some meals are around $70… which is excellent value and I’d recommend it to musicians of all levels, both amateur and professional who just want a fun ‘getaway’ weekend of jamming and learning and meeting other musos… who get an excellent chance to ‘mix’n’match’.
Further information is available from the Girgarre Moosic Muster website… just Google it! 😀
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Here’s another Crack the Sky track from their first album. Struggled for airplay due to marketing reasons. See what you think.
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It’s okay. Can’t say it does a whole lot for me. I’ll check them out elsewhere. Where are they from?
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They are from the USA and this track was released in 1975.
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Musically it’s probably very clever and probably murder to play… but it’s too choppy and disjointed for my taste. I prefer music with a bit more ‘flow’…
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Well I didn’t mind it. Not exactly commercial though, so I see why it might not of got much airplay. Rolling Stone included the album in the top 50 (at 47) Prog rock albums of all time (did a quick bit of research).
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Yeah, I saw that when I finally looked them up.I actually thought who is this band I’ve been listening to since I was 18.
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I think this was the track I was looking for
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You’d wonder why that wouldn’t get airplay in the mid 70’s. I didn’t mind that at all.
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Hi Algy. How did things go this week ? Are you doing pirate impressions ?
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Very well Emm, I reckon I’ve had worse dental surgery, than this. Yes lots of ah ahing last night and this morning when the patch came off. Amazing to be able to see clearly. 20:20 vision in that eye where the vision will get better over the next few days. Can’t go outside without sunnies though. They other eye to be done in two weeks.
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Excellent 😊
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